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From: MSN Nickname-sunday-  (Original Message)Sent: 6/21/2007 4:59 AM
I just finished reading a chapter on the encoding and decoding machines used in WWII. 
 
The British had a machine called Ultra which was the best-kept secret of the war.  With this machine, messages could be intercepted from the Germans.
 
"When the German paratroopers dropped into Crete in 1941, the British knew where and when they were coming, and inflicted unacceptable casualties on the enemy."
 
Can someone please tell me what is meant by "inflicted unacceptable casualties on the enemy"?
 
Thanks,
sunday


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From: MSN NicknameMOREREPETESSent: 6/21/2007 7:55 AM
MY UNCLE WAS KILLED AT CRETE SUNDAY. HE WAS WITH THE BRITISH MARINES. THEY WERE OVER RUN BY GERMAN PARATROOPERS AT THE AIRPORT.
 

The Battle of Crete (German Luftlandeschlacht um Kreta; Greek Μάχη της Κρήτης) was a battle during World War II on the Greek island of Crete. The battle began on the morning of 20 May 1941, when Nazi Germany launched an airborne invasion of Crete under the code-name Unternehmen Merkur (Operation MERCURY). Allied forces defended the island.

After one day of fighting, none of the objectives had been reached and the Germans had suffered appalling casualties. During the next day, through miscommunication and the failure of Allied commanders to grasp the situation, the Maleme airfield in western Crete fell to the Germans. The loss of Maleme enabled the Germans to fly in heavy reinforcements and overwhelm the Allied forces.

The battle of Crete was unique in three respects: it was the first mainly airborne invasion in history; it was the first time the Allies made significant use of the decipherment of the German Enigma code; and it was the first time invading German troops encountered mass resistance from a civilian population. The battle introduced a revolutionary form of warfare and may have had a significant impact on the course of events of the Second World War. In light of the heavy casualties suffered by the parachutists, Adolf Hitler forbade further airborne operations. Crete was dubbed "the graveyard of the German parachutists". However, the Allies were impressed by the potential of paratroopers and started to build their own airborne divisions.


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From: MSN NicknamejamestrdSent: 6/21/2007 12:30 PM
Hi Sunday,

"unacceptable loss" is any loss greater than the objectives importance or significance..
Any loss may be deemed :unacceptable, but by military strategist terms, it would be as I mentioned.

It was also another blunder of Hitler to basically break apart the airborne as he did. Inital German successes in Blitzkrieg were all achiveed through them. The maginot line was overun by them as well.

Any successful invasion of Great Britain would only have been achieved with the use of an airborne division.

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From: MSN Nickname--sundaySent: 6/21/2007 5:01 PM
Thanks, PBA and James.  What confused me was the terminology "inflicted unacceptable casualties".  It came across as the British killed too many of the enemy.
 
sunday

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 6/21/2007 6:24 PM
 
Problem with the Airborne is they cannot in fact ever fulfil their name, as they must link up with Armour, and vehicle re-supply as no Infantryman can carry much ammunition on his back, and relying on airborne re-supply means they have to break cover.
The Russian doctrine was the "Coup de main"; the "blow of the fist", which used Airborne to take pinpoint objectives such as bridges and airfields. Chillingly, they planned to link up with local communist sympathisers. Don't get confused with airportable, which means all equipment can be broken down into carrier aircraft.
Some attempts to give local armoured protection were:
 Sheridan light tank fires very hary 155mm Shillelagh missile
 Irish-Soviet design bureau, they got it wrong way round, here the tank carries the aircraft. Antonov AN40
 US Locust tank emerging from British Glider.Useless 2 pdr gun, no HE capability.

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From: MSN NicknameArnie-113Sent: 6/27/2007 6:40 PM
Suday
 
The unacceptable casualties were simply more than the Germans were prepared to lose on such an operation. In fact the Germans never used Paratroops in an airbourne attack again.
 
Arnie

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