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World History : The English Claim to California
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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5  (Original Message)Sent: 3/28/2005 1:09 PM
In 1936 a man found a battered metal plate on the seashore near the Golden Gate Bridge. It was examined at the University of California and found to inscribed with these words :
 
BEE IT KNOWNE VNTO ALL MEN
BY THESE PRESENTS
IVNE 17 1579
BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND IN THE NAME
OR HERR MAIESTY QVEEN ELIZABETH OF
ENGLAND AND HERR SVCCESSORS FOREVER
I TAKE POSSESSION OF THIS KINGDOME
WHOSE KING AND PEOPLE FREELY RESIGNE
THEIR RIGHT AND TITLE IN THE WHOLE
LAND VNTO HERR MAIESTIES KEEPEING NOW
NAMED BY ME AND TO BEE KNOWNE VNTO
ALL MEN AS NOVA ALBION
FRANCIS DRAKE
 
It has been authenticated as the genuine article and remains in the University of California. Drake saw no Spaniards in the area and his men were the first white men the Indians had set eyes on. Drake stayed ashore from 17 June to 23 July 1579.
See The World Encompassed  by Derek Wilson published in 1977. 
 


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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/2/2007 7:49 AM
Not all our politicians are on the take.  Only commitee chairs, vice commitee chairs. senior departmental heads, and upper members of all political parties.  The juniors are being evaluated to determine their value to the vast, right-wing, conspirancey that has been formed soley to annoy Hilary Clinton.

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From: MSN NicknameBob39Sent: 10/2/2007 9:02 AM
BSB, # 43:
The girls did wear grass skirts and so did some guys. 
 
I wonder........  Is that where the question of "Is he a swishy?" originated?

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From: bowleggedSent: 10/2/2007 5:44 PM
Bob,

arnie will tell you that the British originated that term. In fact, he'll tell you the British pretty much originated everything. Have you met arnie yet?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 10/2/2007 7:25 PM
I think he's gone to Spain for the winter, it'll be months before he's back.

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/3/2007 2:26 AM
Are you saying thatthe West is about to lose Spain?

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From: MSN NicknameBIGSNOWBIRD1Sent: 10/3/2007 2:37 AM
Lew: Thought Spain threw in the towel after the muslims blew up the train.  Now they have Arnie!  Some countries never catch a break.

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 10/3/2007 5:47 AM
Don't get the government and the people mixed up.  The government rolled over for the Moslems but the people of Spain would glady host a giant auto-de-fey for the lot of them.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 11/3/2007 6:46 PM
"Bob,

arnie will tell you that the British originated that term. In fact, he'll tell you the British pretty much originated everything. Have you met arnie yet?"

I have many a time. He and I were in the same Rifle Company for a short while.

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From: MSN NicknameT-man1971Sent: 2/15/2008 4:30 AM
how much would the brits give for Cali now?  I would be willing to let it go cheap??  So long as they give berkley the Diego Garcia treatment
 
T-Man

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 2/15/2008 8:18 PM
We always learn as a kind of cliche California's as big as Britain.
I know it is named after some mythical entity, can anyone help?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 2/15/2008 10:04 PM
Flash, you said there is a California in East Anglia, how did it get that name ? Is it a rare example of somewhere in England taking its name from a place in the USA instead of the reverse ?

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From: MSN NicknameHobbs410Sent: 2/17/2008 4:00 PM
Hey when are you guys gonna get around to asserting your claim?
 
I believe that an almost 500 year wait is to long we have treated your people unjustly and demand you take the damn place back.
 
Please.

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From: MSN NicknamemajorshrapnelSent: 2/17/2008 4:13 PM
I believe San Fransisco was the name of Drake's first mate on board.

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