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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 1/31/2008 3:54 AM

~~ Think ~~

You must learn to think for yourself if you expect to find God and truth. You must learn to study the Word of God and pray for understanding. You must learn to let the Word interpret the Word and not look at the world around you for the interpretation.

Religions of the world do not want anyone who can think for themselves and not be conformed to the ‘pattern�?already set for them to follow. Religions have a mold and you had better fit yourself into their mold. Through the entire history of mankind, man’s religions have gone so far as to torture and burn and destroy anyone who dared to think for themselves and allow the Spirit of God to lead them.

The society before the flood was totally dominated by ‘Adam Worship�?/B>. That religion was cruel and showed no mercy to anyone who dared depart from this idol worship and follow the true God. That same religion still exists today in many different names. It goes by the name of Jerusalem, Moses�?law, Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Independents, just to name a few. Within these are many splinter groups, such as Baptist, Methodist, Lutherans, Pentecostal, Apostolic, etc. And broken down from them, we have the Branhamites, the Dakeites, the Scofieldites, the Matthew Henries, etc. See?

All of these are into Adam worship, and deceive you into thinking they are worshipers of the true God. How do I know? Study the Word. It will become very clear.

Does your ‘church�?allow you to question what the leader says? How DARE you question that PASTOR? How DARE you question that priest? That Pope? That Bishop? Etc.

Go to Sunday School? What do they use for the lesson? The Word of God? I doubt you could find one church in a million which uses the Word of God, instead of literature from their headquarters. So then, how is that being led of the Spirit of God? They that are led of the Spirit of God, they are the children of God.

So then, don’t you see, that by going to this ‘church�?and being a good, obedient member, you are being led to hell? That is the door to hell. That is the gates of hell. If there are 10,000 (just picking a number for example).. Baptist churches having Sunday School today, they are all reading the very same thing = the lesson a leader up in the high-society part of headquarters decided they should ALL study this particular Sunday. This man is paid a high salary to tell you and every other ‘you�?what you must study or teach today. You must conform to ‘their�?ideas. They write what you should believe and say, so that the teacher is not really teaching. He is only reading what someone else decided to say.

If a teacher decides they will not follow suit, and starts teaching directly from the Word of God, what God lays on their hearts, and allow the entire class to ask questions, and bring out things God shows them, I can assure you, that teacher will not last long in that church. I know. It happened to me. I refused to teach from the literature which the rest of the church used. It did not take long before the entire church, even my own family, wanted me out of that place. And God told me to leave it and never go back. They could not take someone who thinks for themselves and will not fit into the Baptist ‘mold�?/I>.

You must teach a triune God. Not because God said that. But because headquarters conforms to Catholicism. They did not think for themselves and pray for the truth about God. They just accepted the lie which had already been set up as the religious mold. They deny the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, so you had better not get to desiring this and ask about it. Out you will go. They deny the water baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin. So you better not obey that, or out you go. They deny the gifts of the Spirit. So if you covet them as Paul said to do, and if you should be gifted with one, and try to use it in their ‘church�?, out you go. So then, how can you become a true Christian in that ‘church�? It is impossible. You must conform to ‘their�?mold. You must not study the Word and think for yourself. It will lead to you being excommunicated.

Now it is the same in all the other churches also. You say well, I belong to a ‘holiness�?church which does permit those things. Still you must conform to ‘their�?mold. If you think not, try thinking for yourself. Ask questions. Doubt what the preacher tells you. Tell it out loud. Guess what? Out you will go. Most of them also conform to Catholicism. They teach trinity. They celebrate all the idol holidays. If you try to teach them this is wrong, out you go. You must conform to their mold. You must not follow the leading of the Spirit of God. You must go by what their headquarters say. You must ‘obey�?that preacher! You must not question what he says and think for yourself. This is simply not permitted by religions.

Then we have the other group of ‘holiness�?folks. They flat deny God and say Jesus is God. They are the most twisted up of them all. They do see that we should baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, but they have no idea as to why. They make up all kinds of twisted versions of verses to try to back up their denial of the Father of Jesus. They go so far as to try to claim that Jesus is the Holy Ghost. Now that is too ignorant for words.

They ALL claim that God left heaven and condensed himself down to a microscopic cell and put himself into a woman, and God ceased to be anywhere else in this universe. If you then prayed to God, it had to be to that baby forming in Mary, for after all, God did not exist elsewhere! I am telling you, this is just too stupid for words.

Yet if you belong to this church, and start to see this could not possibly be right, and voice it, OUT YOU GO. If you join their websites, and try to show them the utter foolishness of this, OUT YOU GO. They all join together in this lie, that God became a man, INCARNATE. This is A CATHOLIC LIE. So they are ALL Catholic.

If you see this is not right, you are branded as a heretic by them ALL. You must not think for yourself. No need to study the Word. Their priest, or preacher will tell you what to believe and you must conform to their mold. They have all killed in the past, any who dared to question and go contrary to the false teachings. Their leaders have been so cruel that they have actually BURNED people to death, who dared to differ with the MOLD. They stand there with their silly ‘cross�?in their hand, gloating, as they managed to burn a child of God to death, for daring to be different from the MOLD.

The Muslims and all other religions which I have ever heard of, all do the same = torture and kill those who do not conform to their MOLD. You must not think for yourself and let God lead you. MAN must lead you. MAN wants to be worshipped. IT IS ADAM WORSHIP.

They all teach MAN’S WORDS, NOT GOD’S WORD. Nothing they say is truly recorded in the Holy word of God. You better not begin to see this. You will be either killed or mangled by their mouth. I have been called so many evil things, for teaching the truth, that I could not tell it all. Thousands of people have fought me because of the truth God has given me. They are all so indoctrinated by the religion they are in, that they cannot recognize the truth when they hear it.

Jesus said, take HEED HOW YOU HEAR. You hear their mold. You hear their lies. You cannot hear the truth. You hear their twisted interpretations, their added words, their taken-out words, and their changed words. You DARE NOT hear the Word exactly as it is worded. Religious people will snob you worse than anyone else, if you dare to buck their lies and evil practices. If you want proof, speak up in your church against some of their lies and their holidays. They will either run you out, or dis-fellowship you so badly, you will go on your own. They cannot take any truth. They dare not think for themselves. It is MAN WORSHIP. IT IS ADAM WORSHIP. So regardless of what name-tag is attached to your ‘church�? it is ALL ADAMISM. Adam is your god. And you DARE NOT DEPART FROM HIS LIES. You must conform to the MOLD.

By: Jo Smith ~~ Jan. 30, 2008



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 4:41 AM
 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 
John Hus (listen (help·info)) (IPA: [ˈjan ˈɦus], alternative spellings Jan Hus, Jan Huss, John Huss) (c. 1369 Husinec (Prachatice District), Bohemia �?July 6, 1415 Konstanz, Germany) was a Czech religious thinker, philosopher, reformer, and master at Charles University in Prague. His followers became known as Hussites. The Roman Catholic Church considered his teachings heretical, and Hus was excommunicated in 1411, condemned by the Council of Constance, and burned at the stake in 1415.
 
Go here to read the entire article.
 
This man saw that the church was made up of all its people, not just the pope and priests.
 
I want you to realize something.  The 'church' of today,  Baptist, Holiness, Methodist, and all of them, have gone BACK to believing as those murderous Catholics did then...  They think the 'people' have no right to THINK for themselves.
 
How many times have you heard the 'church' brainwashing people into thinking they MUST OBEY THAT PASTOR?  and not think for yourselves?  You must not question what that   pastor says.
 
I am telling you, it is the same old evil system, which burned Jan Hus at the stake, because he dared to think the entire body of believers were the Church and could hear from God for themselves.
 
People,  I am telling you,  you are on dangerous grounds when you accept just what some pastor tells you, and not seek to know the truth for youself.
 
Do you wish for burning at the stake to return?  Just think, how  much your own ideas now fit that bunch?  Just think, how incensed most people get at what I teach?
 
Would not they really love to see me burned at the stake?  I think lots of people would.
 
But think....it could also be you.  IF YOU DARE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.  (but hell is for those who do not.)
 
This very kind of reasoning and being led of God, which I am now writing, urging you to study for yourself, and not depend on some man telling you what to do and believe,  is what led to the death of this man of God and thousands more like him.
 
They loved the truth they had found too much to deny it, even though it cost them a horrible death.
 
THINK!
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 4:41 AM
 
More from the article...to show you the damning hold that fake church had on the world... ADAMISN.
 
Excommunication of Hus

Alexander V issued his papal bull of December 20, 1409, which empowered the Archbishop to proceed against Wycliffism. All books of Wycliffe were to be given up, his doctrines revoked, and free preaching discontinued. After the publication of the bull in 1410, Hus appealed before Alexander V, but in vain. All books and valuable manuscripts of Wycliffe were burned, and Alexander V excommunicated Hus and his adherents. Riots ensued in parts of Bohemia.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 4:42 AM
 
More from the article.  (read it all).  They had already beheaded three of those who followed this man's teaching.
 
Notice how this man called for Jesus being the head of the church.  For this, he was killed:
 
Call for arrest of Hus

In the meantime the clergy of Prague, through Michael de Causis, had brought their complaints before the Pope, and he ordered the Cardinal of St. Angelo to proceed against Hus without mercy. The cardinal put Hus under the great church ban. He was to be seized and delivered to the archbishop, and his chapel was to be destroyed. This was followed by stricter measures against Hus and his adherents, and in turn counter-measures of the Hussites, including an appeal by Hus that Jesus Christ, and not the Pope, was the supreme judge. This intensified the excitement among the people, and Wenceslaus forced Hus to leave Prague, but his departure did little to quell the ongoing excitement.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 8:38 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©</NOBR> Sent: 1/31/2008 10:01 AM
Freeborn,I had a pastor one time that told me and I quote
 
" Do not question my authority"

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 8:39 PM
 
Yes, Larry.  And that same pastor told some friends of mine that they could not have anything else to do in the church, (same one you went to)...if they went to a certain tent meeting in my yard.  Remember that?
 
They were wanting to go, but afraid to do so.  She was a good singer and did not want to lose her right to sing there.  I encouraged them to go if they wanted to.  I told them, that man has no right to try to control you this way.
 
That is the kind of stuff from which I wrote the above message.  People need to wake up.
 
That same spirit which was in that evil Catholic church, is the one in these kinds of men, who think they have a right to control God's people.  Any church which allows this kind of thing, is under that evil spirit.
 
Another pastor told his church, in my hearing, that they had no right to go to any other church when they were having meeting.  He also told the visitors there, that they should not come to his church on Sunday, because it was their DUTY to go to their own church then.
 
I asked him later where he got such foolish doctrine from.  He would not answer me.  Yet he had told me that the same pastor you were speaking of had gotten onto him, when he was in that church, for going to a tent meeting elsewhere.
 
I am telling you,  that is not the job of anyone.  All members of Christ are free and should be led of the Spirit of God, not some vain MAN.  Adam is their god.  I will say it as long as I live.
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/31/2008 8:39 PM

Larry, this happened to me when the other pastor was there,  the ones who were there when I received the Holy Ghost.

I had a friend who had moved back up north.  she came down to see me and we were both glad to see that we had both gotten into the Holiness church.  She was in a small group up there and they were trying to start a church building.

After she went back home, I felt led to send them some money to help them out.  I told our pastor's wife about it, thinking maybe they would help also.  I thought Christians had love and wanted to help other members of Christ.

Well I found out I was wrong.  She jumped all over me and scolded me something terrible.  She told me I had no right to do that....that all my money belonged to 'our' church.    (and they were 'oneness' folks).  ONENESS!  See they have no idea what that word really means.

She did not feel one with those people up north.  She was greedy to have all my money in her pockets.

She also told me that I was nothing but a trouble maker.  She said I had caused trouble everywhere I went....referring to the thing which happened in the Baptist church, which I told about above here.

She was upset at me because I questioned her about her shaking folks and telling them to say,  da, da, da, when they were seeking the Holy Ghost.

I had come against that stuff several times there, and it caused them all to be against me.  well I STILL say that is wrong and stands in the way of People receiving the Holy Ghost.

 

I have had people tell me how they even left the church and never went back, because of that same mess.

***

If anyone else here has had experiences like these,  I would like to hear about them.

Jo 


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From: MSN Nicknamelovejoy742Sent: 2/1/2008 12:29 AM
 
I think this that Peter said is very good proof of this message.  And it shows that the leaders are to feed the sheep of God, and that not for money.  They are not to be lords over God's people.  Lords, means ruling over them.
 
Now it seems to me that all the pastors today do exactly the opposite of what is stated here.  They do not really feed the sheep.  they do it for money. and they do try to rule over all the people.
 
This is what Peter said: 

1pe 5:1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 1pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 1pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.


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