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General : Proof that Jesus was man, not God
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 5/26/2008 2:17 AM

~~ Proof that Jesus was a man, not God ~~

I will give some verses, spoken by Jesus, which prove, without a doubt, that Jesus had a man’s mind or spirit. He was a full human man, body, soul, and spirit. He could never have spoken any of these words, if his inner spirit had been that of the eternal God.

Jesus speaks all of these words from his own mind or spirit. He never at any time claims to be God. Those claiming that Jesus was only a ‘body�?for God to dwell in, should take some time and honestly study these passages. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I will add more to this later.

John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

Joh 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Joh 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

Joh 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/26/2008 3:14 AM
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John 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? (see that these Jews did NOT know the truth which Jesus told them.  They had no spiritual understanding.)

Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

there is no way to litterally eat Jesus' human body or drink his blood. God forbids the drinking of blood.  so it is spiritual.

He is saying we must eat of the Word, which is his flesh.  It is the spiritual food that he gives us to eat of the tree of life.

He said we would live by him, in the same way he lives by the Father.  Look at verse 56.  If we eat his flesh and drink his blood, we DWELL in him and he in us........same words as the Father dwells in him.

 

So how do we get into him?  How do we dwell inside him?  and He in us?  does that make us him and he us?  think on this.  It is the same words which make you think He is the Father.