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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  in response to Message 1Sent: 9/4/2008 2:27 AM

Now you are speaking against the Word when you say Jesus was not like unto his brethern in every way.  God said he was.  Just because he ws conceived by the Holy Ghost does NOT prove that the Holy Ghost did not give life to a full human being.

Surely if God created Human beings in the first place, he could also give another human being this way.  He proved in in the O.T. In Isaiah 8.  Another human being was brought forth by a virgin.  God always proves things with 2 or 3 witnesses.

Jesus did not have the fullness of the Godhead bodily inside him until He was resurrected and ascended to heaven and then God gave Him all the power of God.  There is a NEW MAN in Heaven, the second Man Adam.  This new creation of God was made a quickening Spirit.

If you try to make the human first Adam Jesus this one who had all the power of God, then you are doing away with this working of God which brought Jesus back from the Dead in a resurrection, gave him a glorified body and then made him a quickening Spirit.  This is Second Adam.

Have you never learned of Second Adam?  Have you never learned of the new creation of God?  Have you never learned of the New Man?  This is a HEAVENLY MAN IN HEAVEN;  Jesus was an earthly man which had to be done away with so the new MAN could live.

This is the very same pattern we must go through.  Yes Jesus was made in all points like unto his brethern.  He was tempted in all points like unto us.  If he had been God in human flesh, then this would not have happened.  It would have been invalid.  How would  GOD overcoming sin be anything?  God is not tempted to sin.  God has all power.  Jesus overcame sin just as we do; only much more completely; but he did it by faith and love for God.  He did not do it by being God.  Else it would have meant nothing.

God cannot sin.  Jesus could have.  but he did not.


Now you are speaking against the Word when you say Jesus was not like unto his brethern in every way.  God said he was.  Just because he ws conceived by the Holy Ghost does NOT prove that the Holy Ghost did not give life to a full human being.

Surely if God created Human beings in the first place, he could also give another human being this way.  He proved in in the O.T. In Isaiah 8.  Another human being was brought forth by a virgin.  God always proves things with 2 or 3 witnesses.

Jesus did not have the fullness of the Godhead bodily inside him until He was resurrected and ascended to heaven and then God gave Him all the power of God.  There is a NEW MAN in Heaven, the second Man Adam.  This new creation of God was made a quickening Spirit.

If you try to make the human first Adam Jesus this one who had all the power of God, then you are doing away with this working of God which brought Jesus back from the Dead in a resurrection, gave him a glorified body and then made him a quickening Spirit.  This is Second Adam.

Have you never learned of Second Adam?  Have you never learned of the new creation of God?  Have you never learned of the New Man?  This is a HEAVENLY MAN IN HEAVEN;  Jesus was an earthly man which had to be done away with so the new MAN could live.

This is the very same pattern we must go through.  Yes Jesus was made in all points like unto his brethern.  He was tempted in all points like unto us.  If he had been God in human flesh, then this would not have happened.  It would have been invalid.  How would  GOD overcoming sin be anything?  God is not tempted to sin.  God has all power.  Jesus overcame sin just as we do; only much more completely; but he did it by faith and love for God.  He did not do it by being God.  Else it would have meant nothing.

God cannot sin.  Jesus could have.  but he did not.




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     re: Sign out   MSN NicknameFreeborn551  9/21/2008 1:21 AM