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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 11/17/2008 3:02 AM

~~ A Living Soul ~~

At what point does a person become a living soul? Have you really ever studied this and sought the truth? We know that darkness has covered the entire earth. We know that Satan has deceived this whole world. We know that Jesus said few there be that find the straight, narrow way, which leads to life. So then, why assume that the entire world has the truth about this very important question?

Why do people just accept the common teachings of a church which God has declared to be wretched, naked, BLIND, poor and does not know it? If they do not know they are naked, how could they know such a deep truth as this question? I say there is no way. I say they are the gates to hell, and many there be which follow their false teachings, without seeking God’s truth.

Once you come to the truth of the true Foundation of God’s true Church, then God will continue to teach you and it will all be truth. It will take much time and study and seeking, but once that right foundation has been laid, the rest of the building will come forth, truthfully. Light will spring forth. But so long as your foundation is wrong, the rest of your ‘spiritual�?building will be wrong, also. So nothing you believe will be right. Think. What foundation are you really building upon? That Jesus was God in flesh? That God is a trinity of beings? That Mary gave birth to God? That man then killed God and nailed God to a cross? That Jesus was his own Father? And many more such trashy lies flood this world in their false doctrine. So then, if this rotten stuff is your foundation, how can the rest of your ‘house�?be strong enough to stand the storms? How can it be right? There is no way.

So with that in mind, think, what does the entire world say about this question? They all say that every person is a living soul at human birth. So then, how can this be right, seeing it is the common belief of so MANY?

They all think that God made a man of dust, and that man was then a living soul, in the image of God. But then how does that fit where Jesus said, ye are DEAD in trespasses and sins? If you are DEAD, how then are you a LIVING soul? Is having LIFE the same as being a LIVING soul? If one is a LIVING soul, is it not true, then, that that one has LIFE? If one has LIFE, is it not true that this one is also a LIVING soul? How can one be DEAD and at the same time have LIFE? How can one be DEAD and be a LIVING SOUL? There just is no way. Consider these words of Jesus:

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Notice, the condition for passing from DEATH unto LIFE -- one must HEAR (understand) His Word, AND believe on HIM that SENT JESUS. Now if you believe that no one sent Jesus, that Jesus came of his own accord, or in his own name, or authority, then you are NOT believing on the one who SENT him, for you are saying that no one SENT him. So then, you do NOT qualify to pass from DEATH TO LIFE.

This means that you are STILL DEAD. If you are DEAD, you are NOT A LIVING SOUL. How can you be LIVING IF YOU ARE DEAD? The person who qualifies here, has everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation. This person, who truly believes on the one who SENT JESUS, already has everlasting life. That person has passed from DEATH UNTO LIFE. Now if he had to pass from DEATH UNTO LIFE, then he was DEAD. If he was DEAD, then he was not a LIVING SOUL.

But the hoards of people claiming to believe, do not believe on the one who SENT JESUS. They all claim that Jesus came of his own accord, or else they believe that the Father is merely the first person of a three-person ‘godhead�? It is all lies, and does not qualify any of you to be passed from DEATH UNTO LIFE. This scripture said to believe on the one who SENT JESUS. None of the churches of today believe this truth. They all believe man’s made up lies of either a trinity, or ‘Jesus-only�? This does not pass you from death unto life.

John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Now he is still speaking here about what he said in verse 24, ‘he that HEARS�?Jesus�?word, and believes it. The hour is coming, (from the time Jesus spoke these words, to be fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost).. (notice the next words�?very important to understanding this truth�?) AND NOW IS. So it was present right then, when he spoke. …when the DEAD shall HEAR his voice and they that hear shall LIVE�? RIGHT THEN.

So this is not speaking of the resurrection of coming out of graves. It was speaking of those right then, who heard and believed his words, passing from DEATH UNTO LIFE�?RIGHT THEN. So then, before they heard and believed, they were DEAD. If they were DEAD, they were not alive. They were not a LIVING soul.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; [now this shows that some kind of LIFE had to be GIVEN to the Son, for him to have this LIFE in himself. If you can think straight, you can see that this is showing another kind of LIFE being given to Jesus, OTHER THAN HIS HUMAN LIFE, WHICH HE ALREADY HAD. This other LIFE had to be GIVEN to the Son, for him to have LIFE IN HIMSELF. So then, this LIFE did not come at his human birth. Now I am not making this up. I am saying EXACTLY what this word said. It is the others who have said things which are not said in Scripture.]

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Now verse 28 reaches out in time to the coming RESURRECTION from the grave. This hour IS COMING. He did not say, And now is, as he did in verse 25. This is two different events. So it proves that the LIFE which came to those in verse 25, when they HEARD his word and believed, is NOT the life given to them in verse 28, when they come out of the grave. So it proves that they were DEAD before they heard and believed! If they were DEAD, they were not a LIVING SOUL. They had to hear and believe, in order to become a living soul, or to be given life.

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. [Now here, Jesus is again speaking of his Father, which SENT HIM. If you do not believe on this Father, who sent Jesus, (did not come himself, or of himself), but Father SENT Jesus. Now if you do not believe this, you are not being given this everlasting LIFE. You are dead.]

John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. [If you say Jesus is the only God, then you must call this statement a lie. He said if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. Then he cannot be witnessing of himself, when he speaks of his Father, who sent him.]

John 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. [Jesus said, there is ANOTHER that bears witness of me. He is not speaking of man, for he said, I receive not witness from man. So if you do not believe this, you are calling Jesus a lie, and you cannot be believing what he said. So you are not given LIFE. You are DEAD.]

John 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. [Now here is the proof that Jesus is not speaking of John bearing witness of him.]

John 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. [Now here Jesus makes it very clear that he is not speaking about himself, but his Father. He is not bearing witness of himself. He said you have not seen his shape or head his voice at any time. So it could not possibly be speaking about Jesus, for they had seen his shape and heard his voice many times. How could so many people deny this clear scripture? They do not believe on the one who SENT Jesus, therefore, they are DEAD.]

John 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. [If you do not believe that a Father sent a Son, who is different from his Father, then you do not believe on he whom He sent.]

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. [Now here is positive proof, that unless you come to Jesus, believing what he has just said, in the above verses, that you do NOT HAVE LIFE. If you do not have LIFE, YOU ARE NOT A LIVING SOUL.]

This takes in the entire church of our day. Proof? Re 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Re 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. Re 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Re 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [Now this church is too blind to see that they are dead in trespasses and sins.]

Now proof that they are DEAD: Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins:

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Now that very clearly shows that everyone who is still walking in disobedience to God, walking in the lusts of their flesh, and fulfilling the desires of their flesh and mind, are DEAD IN TRESPASSES AND SINS. These are the DEAD to whom Jesus spoke in John 5... The DEAD shall hear his voice and pass from that DEATH unto LIFE.

So if you have not believed on the one who sent Jesus, and stopped your disobedience to God, stopped walking in lusts and fulfilling your desires of the flesh and mind, you are by NATURE children of wrath and are dead. If you are dead, you are not a living soul. You are a dead soul. You may be walking around, fulfilling your lusts and desires, but you are a dead soul. You have not been given life.

By your very nature, you are a dead soul. Our nature has to be changed, to become a LIVING SOUL. What can change our nature? Only the Spirit of God, coming into our own soul.

John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Ge 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Ge 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The first day is the day Light came from the darkness on the face of the deep. Death was upon the face of Jesus. Death is darkness. This is the first day. It is the day of the resurrection. This is the DAY when God made a man in the likeness and glory of God. He resurrected his son, into his own image and glory. This day have I begotten you. This is the first day. Jesus was raised from death to life on this first day. Then what did he do?

John 20:20 And when he had so said, he showed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.

John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. [As-- As my Father hath sent me, so send I you. The Father sent Jesus, and gave him to have life in himself, that he could give life to others. Now Jesus is going to give life to these disciples and send them, just as his Father had sent him. So he gave them the power to forgive sins.

Men claim that when Jesus said, so you may know that the son of man has power to forgive sins.. They say this proves he was God. But no. There had to be no proof that God could forgive sins. Everyone already knew that. It was not doubted. But it had to be proven, or so they would know, that the son of man had power to forgive sins. It really is right the opposite. It was proof that he was NOT GOD. If he had been God, there would have been no need to make them know that God had power to forgive sins. So now, Jesus does something to his disciples, BEFORE he sends them.]

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Why did Jesus BREATH on these disciples here? It was fulfilling this: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. John 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

Jesus did what soever he saw his Father do. Jesus knew it took the breathing of God to give life. When God breathed into his nostrils, that dead soul became a living soul. It was the God life, which was imparted into this man of dust. He already had human LIFE. But he had to be given the God-life, in order to become a LIVING SOUL. Before this, he was a dead soul. He was dead in trespasses and sins. He had to be given the HOLY GHOST to become a living soul. The HOLY GHOST is the spirit of God. It is the life of God. It is how God gave life to Jesus. As he had life in himself, so he gave Jesus to have life in himself, so that Jesus could then give this same life to others.

So here, Jesus starts his life as our Lord and our God--- he breathed on them, and imparted the life of God into them--- and they became a living soul. Now they had power on earth to forgive sins, just as Jesus had had. God anointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost and POWER. He gave life to Jesus. As the Father had life in himself, so he Gave to Jesus to have LIFE in himself. It was GIVEN TO JESUS. He was not born with it. Neither are we. It has to be given to us. Until then, we are DEAD. Walking around here, DEAD.

Ps 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Ps 103:13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him. Ps 103:14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

We ARE dust. We ARE DUST. We are grass. Verse 12 shows God removing our transgressions from us. This is not speaking about our human birth. It is long after that. He did not remove our transgressions from us, when we were born as babies. When did he do this? When he breathed into our nostrils and we received the HOLY GHOST. Then this dust became a LIVING SOUL.

Jesus took those dust men, standing there in front of him, breathed into their nostrils the breathe of LIFE and man BECAME a living soul. He gave them the Holy Ghost and the power to forgive sins on earth. He put that flaming sword into their hands to keep the way of the Tree of life. He made them keepers of the Garden of God. Every plant which my Heavenly Father hath not planted, will be rooted up. Do not return to that law. Do not eat of that tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil. In that day, you will die. There is no forgiveness for this willful sin after you have come to the knowledge of the truth, been partakers of the HOLY GHOST and the powers of the world to come--- they now had the power to forgive sins on earth.

If you return to law, you fall from grace. There is no forgiveness for this sin. They are twice DEAD; plucked up by the roots. Twice DEAD. Once, before they received the Holy Ghost, next after they fell from Grace. May the eternal God enlighten your minds as you read this great mystery, uncovered! Jesus had to finish making man in the image of God. This is the work which his God had given him to finish. This he did as he breathed on them, and said, receive you the Holy Ghost. Then these men went out and did greater, (more) works than Jesus had done. They were now revealing God to this world. God was now living in them. They were now passed from DEATH UNTO LIFE. They had now become a living soul.

You are not a living soul, until you are filled with the Holy Ghost, the life of God. You are dead in trespasses and sins. You are a dead, dust soul. You have to be given life, to become a living soul.

The first son of God, Adam, was created in the likeness and glory of God. He was immortal. He was glorified. He was alive. He did not become a living soul. He was created a glorified being. He was the anointed cherub of Eze. 28. He was the most beautiful of all creation and the wisest of them all. He became lifted up in pride and became jealous of God. He then let sin into his life and he FELL from this glorious LIFE, and died. He was still alive, as a mortal man. But he was now DEAD in trespasses and sin. He could never get back to God, for he had willfully sinned this sin of falling from Grace, to go into law. He ate of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and became a dead soul. He died that very day. He kept on living, as far as humanity is, but he was no longer a living soul. He was a DEAD SOUL. He was at enmity with God. He now had a carnal mind, which is the enmity and the serpent.

There was never a dead body, made of dust, laying on the ground, dead, lifeless, and in Gods image, yet dead. This simply did not happen. It is a carnal, but wrong interpretation of God’s Holy word. His word is spiritual. It cannot be rightly discerned, or understood by a carnal mind or a natural way of seeing it.

When it said that man --- became--- a living soul---that man was already alive--- he was already there, a man, able to walk around and reproduce other people. It said, man---BECAME--- a living soul. This man already existed. But then, after receiving the Holy Ghost, this DUST, THIS MAN, BECAME a living soul. It was not a dead body, laying lifeless on the ground, suddenly become alive. It is not that way at all. This is the blind church’s way of seeing God’s word. Look at it--- man was already---man---but then---that man--already existing as a man, not a dead corpse, BECAME a living soul. That man became something more than he already was. He did not just now start to live, as far as human life. He began to live as far as God-life was now given to him. He was now delivered from being dead in trespasses and sins. Jesus, our Lord God, is the one who did this. He did it to Peter, James, John and his other disciples. He BREATHED on them, and said, receive you LIFE, OR THE HOLY GHOST. Jesus took this dust, in front of him, and made them into men of God. Praise my God for this glorious revelation!

By: Jo Smith ~~ Nov. 16, 2008