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From: Flame  (Original Message)Sent: 6/24/2004 3:37 AM

EVEN IF ONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD THEY STILL WOULD NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY HEAR NOT AND SEE NOT. THEY DO NOT HEAR THE WORD OF JESUS AND THE APOSTLES. WONDER IF THEY WOULD LISTEN TO PETER OR PAUL IF THEY CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD? IF THEY HEAR NOT starlight AND sesible SPEAKING THE WORD OF GOD NEITHER WILL THEY PERSUADED THOU PETER OR PAUL OR ANY OTHER APOSTLES ROSE FROM THE DEAD.

Jesus' day, they (who? the ones with eyes that cannot see, and the ones with ears but cannot hear) = religious hypocrites = and why are they blind and deaf HYPOCRITES? Because of this: and this is what God just told me:

In Jesus' day, they said, "We be Moses' disciples". Now why did they say this? Because they could not believe Moses in Jesus' day> It was impossible; God had already closed off the day of Moses; ...>> so God had sent and anointed John the Baptist and Jesus. They could now only get to God by believing John and Jesus. My Lord! What a revelation. (This is warm from Heaven = fresh baked bread)

Jesus told them IF YOU HAD BELIEVED MOSES (now see that by saying IF you had believed Moses, Jesus was PROVING that they lied -- they were NOT TRULY MOSES DISCIPLES) >>>>>> why?

Because if you had BELIEVED Moses, you WOULD BELIEVE ME FOR MOSES WROTE OF ME.

Now see that Jesus told them right here, you cannot now serve God by being Moses disciples. (How many do we know today who are still there? trying to be Moses disciples? millions) >>

Now (then) you had to believe John and Jesus.

Later, they HAD to believe Peter and Paul. And of course the other apostles.

They could not NOW (at that time = Pentecost) go back and get to God through John the Baptist. Proof? Acts 19: 1-10/ John's baptized disciples HAD TO BE RE-BAPTIZED BY PAUL - IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. And receive the H.G. which neither John nor Jesus gave to them in their day.

Yes, just as they could not serve God under Moses in Jesus' day; nor could they get in any other way except through the Apostles in their day (Pentecost and shortly thereafter)>

Now YOU CANNOT GET IN ANY OTHER WAY EXCEPT THROUGH THE TRULY ANOINTED AND GOD-SENT TEACHERS

OF YOUR DAY = RIGHT NOW.


It has always been this way> People of Abraham's day had to listen to him- people of Moses day had to listen to him> people of John's day had to listen to him: Jesus> Peter> Paul> Stephen> etc.

People of Luther's day had to listen to him or stay under the popes: and the other reformers; that is all they had for their day>

But for today? You had better listen to the teachers who have proven, by not crossing one single word of God, that they are the truly anointed teachers of today.

You could not BELIEVE IF PETER OR PAUL ROSE FROM THE DEAD THIS VERY NIGHT AND TOLD YOU THE VERY SAME WORDS THEY ACTUALLY WROTE IN THE WORD >>>>

Do you all realize that in EVERY AGE, the majority of people of that day, doubted that the very people God raised up and used, could POSSIBLY be used of God. That is true. In Moses day, the very ones he was leading constantly doubted him.

In Abraham's day only a handful of people believed him.

In John's day, only a very few believed he could be of God.

In Jesus' day the vast majority of people said, How could you be of God? You can't even read or write. He never received any 'learning'. In Peter's day, Paul's day, more people want to kill them than to believe them.

It has always been this way. I thought it stopped with them. NO! It did not. I thought so myself until right now. God just told me that if Peter rose from the dead you COULD NOT BELIEVE HIM. It is past his time.

That is why the rich man in hell was told, if they will not believe Moses and the law, they would not believe if one rose from the dead? >>>>>>>> What was he saying? It was in the day of Moses and the law; that was all they could believe... and they believe it not!

...So when Jesus rose from the dead... they could not believe...only those who had believed John, could now believe Jesus...then later Peter...then later Paul...then later... Him...and Him... and Her

Take it anyway you wish. If you will not believe me quoting Peter's exact words. And Paul's exact words. And Jesus' exact words.. And not crossing one single word... then that proves God has anointed me with truth... And if you cannot and will not believe this, you could not believe if Peter rose up from the dead and told you...why?.. Because HE WOULD TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT I AM TELLING YOU; FOR I AM QUOTING WHAT HE ALREADY TOLD YOU IN THE WORD.

SO FOR TODAY YOU MUST HEAR US.


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From: FlameSent: 6/24/2004 3:43 AM
You cannot go back and claim I am Jesus' disciples; or Moses, or Peter's or Paul's see even Paul said this is carnality. IF YOU BELEIVE GODS WORDS, YOU WILL BELIEVE what we say FOR WE TEACH SAME THING THEY ALL TAUGHT..... SO IF YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH,,,,,,, IT WILL TELL YOU THAT WHAT we SAY IS TRUTH

is written that- He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

I think these scriptures say it all

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From: FlameSent: 2/16/2005 2:37 AM