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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 7/11/2007 2:39 PM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 6/19/2003 4:30 PM

  

~~ Psalms 22 ~~

Psalms 22

1. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2. O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3. But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4. Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5. They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6. But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7. All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8. He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

This is a magnificent chapter. The first time I read this, I cried and cried as I saw the sufferings of our precious Saviour, in a way I had not seen it before.

Many people do not realize that Psalms; in fact all the prophet books are really the words of Jesus. They are all about Jesus. If you do not learn this, you will miss all the glory and the truth.

Now before we are finished with this chapter you will see crystal clear that it could be about no one except Jesus. All the way.

Verse one, this is Jesus�?cry from the cross, My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me? Now this is not a dual natured person who some kind of way has forsaken part of himself. People have made up some hideous lies about Jesus in order to try to prove a false doctrine which states that Jesus was God and the only ‘person�?in the God head. This also crosses out the trinity lie that Jesus was a second person in a Godhead, who is co-equal with God. This foolish teaching is not one time written in God’s Word. If so, why is Jesus crying out and praying for God to come and help him? He had said not my will, but thine be done.

This is one of their lies, that Jesus had a dual nature. Jesus had faith in God is what he had. All of his miracles were done by simply believing God. Jesus is NOT calling himself or a part of himself his own God. That is sheer foolishness. He was praying here for His God to come and help him. You cannot make anything else out of this and be true to this Word.

Now verse two-- again Jesus calls out to His God. He says, O my God why are you not hearing me? Why? Because God had forsaken Jesus and left him to die all alone, the sins of the whole world having been placed upon Jesus. God turned his back on Jesus, as he died the death of a sinner. Afterwards his soul went into hell fire. Psm. 16: 10 & Psm. 116: 3.

Now not too many preachers will tell you this. But this is the word of God. Jesus paid the debt of all our sins and the price of second death. If you go there, you will have to reject this sacrifice.

Then Jesus tells God how he has delivered the fathers when they cried to Him...v6--But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. Isa. 53.

If He were God, why do you suppose he called himself a worm?

7. All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8. He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

Here is where the people mocked Jesus and said come down from the cross and we will believe you. Where is your God?

9. But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11. Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12. Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13. They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15. My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16. For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Verse 10--.... Thou are my God from my mother’s belly.

So here Jesus declares that The Father was His God from his birth. (Who can call Jesus a lie? You must do so to deny that Jesus has a God).

Verse 11-- again Jesus pleads with God to come and help him. If this does not rend your soul, you have a hard heart.

Verse 14--solid proof that this is Jesus at his crucifixion ---- all my bones are out of joint. And verse 16--. They pierced my hands and my feet.

Do you know of anyone this could fit other than the Lord Jesus?

Verse 18-- More Proof. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. If this is not Jesus, I want someone to tell me who it is. Use Scripture.

19. But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.

20. Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

21. Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Now in these three verses we have Jesus still praying and pleading with His God to come and deliver him and save and help him. And this is God? I think not. He was as helpless on that cross as I would have been. Why? Because God had forsaken him. And this is not Jesus�?own spirit either. If so, Jesus would have been dead for the body without the spirit is dead. God left no loopholes for anyone to teach lies from and deny this truth. If you deliberately call God’s Word a lie, to support a false churches teachings, you will lose your own soul.

Wake up, people, before it is too late for you. Accept the real, pure truth of God’s Holy Word. Jesus was not God.

God was his Father who sent him here. God was Jesus�?God. He still is.

The rest of the chapter prophecies of Jesus�?resurrection where and when Jesus will praise God unto his brethren, us humans.

Thank You Lord Jesus for your glorious TRUTH. This truth, that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD is the only true foundation which the true Church of Jesus is built upon. All other doctrines are sinking sand. The house built upon this sinking sand will collapse and great will be the fall of it.

Jo Smith

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/11/2007 2:40 PM
From: joie Sent: 6/19/2003 9:37 PM

Psalms 69

 1.  Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul.
 2.  I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.
 3.  I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God.
 4.  They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.


 5.  O God, thou knowest my foolishness; and my sins are not hid from thee.
 6.  Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord God of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.


 7.  Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face.
 8.  I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.


 9.  For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me.


 10.  When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach.
 11.  I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them.
 12.  They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the drunkards.


 13.  But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O Lord, in an acceptable time: O God, in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy salvation.
 14.  Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be delivered from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.


 15.  Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.
 16.  Hear me, O Lord; for thy lovingkindness is good: turn unto me according to the multitude of thy tender mercies.
 17.  And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear me speedily.


 18.  Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine enemies.
 19.  Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.
 20.  Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.


 21.  They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.


 22.  Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
 23.  Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
 24.  Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.
 25.  Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.
 26.  For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded.
 27.  Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.
 

 

 

Now I ask you all to read this chapter and tell me who is it speaking of?  Who is speaking here in the first person?

It can only be Jesus.  He is the one to whom they gave vinegar in his thirst.  He is the one who said the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.  It does not change who is speaking all the way down through this chapter.

Then he is prophecying about Judas and his punishment for betraying Jesus.

If you think it is David or someone else, show in the Word where these things fit David.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/11/2007 2:40 PM
From: joie Sent: 6/19/2003 10:05 PM

Psalms 2

 1.  Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
 2.  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

(who is this Lord's anointed?)  Whom did the kings of the earth set themselves against?

None other than Jesus.


 3.  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
 4.  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
 5.  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.


 6.  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

(Who did God set to be his King on his holy Hill?)  None other than Jesus.


 7.  I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee.

(who is this saying speaking of,  Thou are my son; this day have I begotten thee?)  None other than Jesus the day of his resurrection.


 8.  Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Here God is speaking to Jesus, his Son and giving him the heathen for his possession.

You can't make it be anyone else.


 9.  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Who fulfilled this, with a rod of iron?  only Jesus.


 10.  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
 11.  Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
 12.  Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
 

Who is this Son we are told to 'kiss'?  Only Jesus.  Blessed are all they that put their trust in him...... in David? 

No, of course not.  In Jesus.

 
   

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/11/2007 2:41 PM
From: joie Sent: 6/19/2003 10:24 PM

Psalms 110

 1.  The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

(People, look at this!  And it is repeated in Heb.  The LORD (the Father) said unto my Lord..... now how is this?  One LORD  saying something to another Lord?

Yes, there is a definite difference here in this LORD and this Lord.

Can't you see that someone here is speaking to someone else?  How could you not see that?


 2.  The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. (this could only be speaking to Jesus).


 3.  Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.


 4.  The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Here once again The Father is speaking to Jesus, our Lord.


 5.  The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

Verse 5 is especially beautiful to me:  Some one is speaking to God about Jesus and said,  The Lord at thy right hand....  see the beauty?  It is Jesus whom God set at his own right hand... so this is prophecy of when there would be a Lord at God's right hand. 

See all the beauty you miss by not knowing this great revelation. And furthermore, none of these Scriptures would make any sense unless you see this.  This why I say very few people really read the Word.  Do you not realize that the Word is God?


 6.  He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

This is speaking of when Jesus comes back in vengence against the ungodly.


 7.  He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.
 

 
   


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