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Jo's messages : Woman, in the wilderness
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 7/11/2007 9:46 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/26/2002 8:46 AM

All of you, listen to this.  if you could learn this, you could see how God does not go by what kind of human body one has as to whether He will use that person with His Word. He goes by the Spirit that person has.

The WOMAN represents our flesh. Our spiritual flesh; not our human flesh. Now, my spiritual flesh, your spiritual flesh has within it a SEED, which was placed there by Him when He filled us with His Spirit. That Spirit is His Seed to bring forth a man child to God in me. In You.

Listen to this; a sinner is a human being just as you and I are. BUT the sinner does not have spiritual flesh as you and I have ---- a sinner does not have that SEED of Life growing inside them.

The WOMAN with CHILD --- in Rev. 12:2-- is us, His SAINTS, in whom He has placed His SEED, the life from the MAN which impregnates the female ( our spiritual flesh)-- and brings forth the child. This child is a combination of both the Father (Jesus) and the Mother (me).

Now inside me, there is both myself, Jo, and there is Christ, being formed in me (the womb, spiritually)-- One of them, Me, is me. It is my natural self, which I must bring into subjection to my Husband, Jesus. But the other one inside me, is that man child, Christ in us, the hope of glory.

The glory which we are hoping for is that this man child will reach maturity inside my womb, and come to the birth, = the resurrection into that glorified body. Then that CHILD will come FORTH in the likeness of HIS FATHER, JESUS.

But it will still be me. Get it? I do hope so.

Only then, I will no longer be hindered by this earthly flesh - I will be like unto His glorious body, he had after his resurrection. I will be like the resurrected Christ.

My human flesh must go into that wilderness, and grow up spiritually, by obeying the Word. I am nourished by that word, the 'vitamins' my little man child needs to mature and come to the birth. Make no mistake about it, I have a child of Jesus growing inside me. I am with CHILD. I will bring forth a CHILD in the likeness of Jesus. For I will nourish my spiritual 'fetus' what it needs to mature into the likeness of Jesus, His Father.

When He gave me the Holy Ghost, this is when He KNEW me and put his spirit, (seed) into me.

Glory. Praise the Lord for His truth. So see, when He said for a woman not to teach, he is referring to those still in the human flesh, not impregnated by His seed. For if one is pregnant with the child of Jesus, then it is no longer I that speak, but he speaking inside me. It is not female, it is the man child = a male.

If you speak from the flesh, you are female, thereby forbidden to teach. It makes not one bit of difference what kind of human tabernacle one is in ----- it is which spiritual flesh are you. If you do not have the true Holy Ghost teaching you, then you cannot teach; for you are female --men.

If you have the Holy Ghost teaching you, you can teach, for it is male - women. The Holy Ghost speaking in you is a HE.

It depends on which spirit one is speaking by - self or the Holy Ghost. You are forbidden to speak from your flesh; you must speak by the Holy Ghost. Women with the Holy Ghost can teach; for it is a male doing the teaching.

Men without the Holy Ghost are forbidden to teach, for it is not the spirit, but a 'female' to God.

All flesh is 'FEMALE' to God. All Spirit is MALE = the life. Your flesh is dead. Only the Spirit gives us life.

God gives us all, Men and Women alike, His seed, in our ‘flesh�?= the spiritual womb- to bring forth a man child. So to God all flesh is female. This human, dust creation is all female to God. That is why all flesh is forbidden to teach; it must come from the Spirit of God. If God does not put His spirit into a man, that man if forbidden to teach God’s word; for it would be female = human, doing it.

If God places His Seed, = Spirit - inside a woman, she is able to teach His Word, for it is no longer a ‘female�?to God, it is a male = His Spirit doing the teaching.

You men must receive the SEED OF GOD inside yourself, become ‘pregnant�?by God, in order to become a SON of God. This makes you ‘female�?to God. He puts His Seed into you. If you do not have this ‘relationship�?of husband and wife with God, same as a woman, you are none of His. You must become ‘wife�?to God.

Henceforth, know we no one after the FLESH.

Without the Holy ghost,  you are still in the FLESH.

Come to the spirit.

Jo



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2007 10:15 PM
 
Many men claim that God set Adam to rule over Eve at their very beginning.  This is nothing but lies of men who hate for women to be free .  It is the same old hateful spirit which made Adam rebel against God.
 
I will show you solid proof, for God just brought this to my attention,  proving that in the Beginning they were EQUALS, and Adam knew this.
 
<NOBR>Ge 2:21</NOBR> And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
<NOBR>Ge 2:22</NOBR> And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
<NOBR>Ge 2:23</NOBR> And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
<NOBR>Ge 2:24</NOBR> Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Now see there.  Adam knew the truth.  He knew that they were ONE flesh.

He knew this means being EQUALS.  It means not one of them were to rule over the other, otherwise, they could not have been ONE.

How the world hates this true ONENESS.

Now here is solid proof that Jesus held to this rule for the man and his wife:

<NOBR>Mt 19:4</NOBR> And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
<NOBR>Mt 19:5</NOBR> And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
<NOBR>Mt 19:6</NOBR> Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder


Now see, that Jesus said exactly what Adam said at the beginning.  How could one rule over the other, if they are ONE FLESH?  Can one half of the flesh rule over the other half>  not possible.    If they were ONE, this means there is no difference.

This is why Jesus said with you, my people, it shall not be so....that one rule over the other, for you are all ONE.

Everyone fighting this, is fighting God's Way and what Jesus taught.

Adam hated this, so he turned Eve away from it, by seducing her mind, and taking her under law.  But in the beginning, he knew that they were ONE.  This is how God made them.

I love the way this one is worded:

<NOBR>Mr 10:6</NOBR> But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
<NOBR>Mr 10:7</NOBR> For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
<NOBR>Mr 10:8</NOBR> And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
<NOBR>Mr 10:9</NOBR> What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


Jesus said,  v8, so they are no MORE twain (two separate ones), but ONE FLESH.

So God just showed me this.  All who fight this equality of male and female again, are separating them, or tearing apart what God joined TOGETHER into ONE.

So if a man insists on ruling over his wife, he has UNJOINED THEM.  He has put her asunder.

Wow.  this is deep.