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From: Flame  (Original Message)Sent: 4/22/2004 11:07 PM

~~ He appeared to Mary ~~

I want to ask you all something. Do you believe that Jesus knew all things? Do you think that after his resurrection he would be aware of what was going on around his resurrection and his grave?

Where do you suppose he was? Do you think that the angels of God who were there also knew what was going on? Do you think they saw Mary there? Do you think they saw Peter and John when they were there?

If so, then please explain this to me-- why do you think they all three waited until Peter and John had looked into the tomb and then turned away and went back to their own home and then appeared to Mary immediately after Peter and John left?

Read this and ponder it a while. Let truth come into your hearts; else you are fighting against the Work of Jesus.

John 20

1. Now on the first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, while it was yet dark, unto the tomb, and seeth the stone taken away from the tomb.
2. She runneth therefore, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we know not where they have laid him.

Now this shows that Mary first went to the grave and found the stone rolled away. Then she went to the disciples and told them this and they had taken the Lord away somewhere. At this time Mary had not seen Jesus. She did not know he had been resurrected.


3. Peter therefore went forth, and the other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.
4. And they ran both together: and the other disciple outran Peter, and came first to the tomb;
5. and stooping and looking in, he seeth the linen cloths lying; yet entered he not in.

Here John came and looked into the grave, but all he saw was the linen cloths there. He did not see the angels or Jesus. I ask you why? Do you think the angels were not there at that time? But they had already come and rolled the stone away--so they WERE there. Where do you suppose Jesus was at the time John looked into the grave?

Why did he not let John see him at this time? why did the two angels not let John see them?


6. Simon Peter therefore also cometh, following him, and entered into the tomb; and he beholdeth the linen cloths lying,
7. and the napkin, that was upon his head, not lying with the linen cloths, but rolled up in a place by itself.
8. Then entered in therefore the other disciple also, who came first to the tomb, and he saw, and believed.

Notice here that both Peter and John have entered into the tomb, but all they saw was the clothes. They did NOT SEE THE ANGELS OR JESUS. I ask you WHY?

Is it because the angels and Jesus were not there? If not, where were they? Is it because they did not KNOW that Peter and John were there?
If you think they did not know, why?

9. For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise from the dead.
10. So the disciples went away again unto their own home.

So after they both looked in and went into the tomb, they both turned again and went to their own homes. Neither the angels or Jesus had appeared to them. Why? Was it because they did not know they were there? And if they did know those two men disciples were there, WHY DID THEY NOT APPEAR TO THEM? WHY DID THEY WAIT AND LET THESE TWO MEN DISCIPLES RETURN TO THEIR OWN HOMES?

11. But Mary was standing without at the tomb weeping: so, as she wept, she stooped and looked into the tomb;
12. and she beholdeth two angels in white sitting, one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

13. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.

14. When she had thus said, she turned herself back, and beholdeth Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

15. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou hast borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
16. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turneth herself, and saith unto him in Hebrew, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

17. Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto my Father: but go to my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.

18. Mary Magdalene cometh and telleth the disciples, I have seen the Lord; and that he had said these things unto her.

Now people in all honesty, do you not see here that as soon as Peter and John left and went home, that Mary looks into the tomb and SEES TWO ANGELS. They speak to her.

Then Jesus himself appears to Mary and reveals his resurrection to HER.

THEN HE DOES THE UNTHINKABLE --He tells her to go tell this revelation to his disciples -- all MEN.

Now I know most of you want to say well all it was Jesus just told her to go tell them. Well if that is all there is to this, that Jesus wanted his disciples to KNOW that he had resurrected, I ask you WHY, WHY, WHY DID HE NOT APPEAR TO THEM WHEN THEY WERE THERE AT THE TOMB?

Do you think He did not know they were there? Do you think he was off somewhere else, and just 'miraculously' gets there immediately after the disciples leave and appears to Mary?

What? Have you ever even considered this? And if not, why not?

Do you study the Word or just listen to hand-me-down stuff?

Here are three heavenly beings, two angels and the resurrected Christ who let these two men disciples look into the tomb, go into the tomb, and leave and go home without saying a word to them. Now why is this?

Yet as soon as they leave, these three heavenly beings appear to Mary and talk to her and commission her to go TELL HER MESSAGE TO THE DISCIPLES ; ALL MEN.

Sure you all try to down-play this and say well it was not preaching; she was just telling them something.

But there has to be a definite reason those angels and Jesus let the men go back home and then send that woman to reveal to them the message Jesus gave her that he was to ascend unto his Father and to his God and their God.

No, I say unto you, that there is much more to this than you want to believe. I say Jesus was fulfilling the prophesy here that his own Mother had spoken, that He would put down the mighty from their 'seats' (of ruler ship) and raise up them of low-degree. = women.

He put down the men, raised up the women, thus bringing about equality for the NT Church.

Anyone who fights this is the enemy of the work of Jesus himself.

I say you had better do some checking up.

By: Jo Smith -- Feb. 1, 2004



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From: FlameSent: 2/16/2005 2:46 AM