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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 10/4/2008 4:10 AM
Tweety wanted to discuss this:
 
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1 John 3:4-10 (KJV)
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
Me:
As I read this I saw something I had never realized before.  I will make this brief tonight, and come back to it later.
 
v4. Whosoever committeth sin transgresses the law.  for...sin IS the transgression of the law.
 
My, my.  How powerful and clear this is, proving that all I have taught on the law is the solid truth.
 
Do you not see this?  It is so clear here.  If you sin, you are transgressing the law.  But...watch this glory:
 
<NOBR>Ro 4:15</NOBR> Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

The law works wrath, but the children of God will not be under wrath.  why?  Where no law is, there is NO TRANGRESSION.

See? If one sins, they are transgressing the LAW, because if he is under the law, then God requires his sins of him, or imputes his sins to him.  He is thus guilty.  He is sinning, because he is under the law and transgressing the law.

But.... if he is not under the law, then he is not sinning.  Where there is no law, there is no transgression, or sin.

<NOBR>Ro 5:13</NOBR> (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.


Sin is not imputed when there is no law.  So, when is there,  'no law'?  When one is in Grace, or the NT Holy Ghost salvation.

Here is what Strong's says about 'manifested':  1) to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown,
to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way
1a) make actual and visible, realised
1b) to make known by teaching
1c) to become manifest, be made known
1d) of a person
1d1) expose to view, make manifest, to show one's self, appear
1e) to become known, to be plainly recognised, thoroughly understood
1e1) who and what one is

Look at #1:  To make known what has been hidden or unknown.

That is great.  Jesus made known to the world the message of GRACE.  He showed the world how to be free from sin.  No one had known before the power of being under Grace.

Jesus was the very embodiement of Grace.  So to be in Jesus, is to be in Grace.  To be in Grace, is to be FREE OF SIN.

Where there is no law, there is no sin, for sin is transgressing the law.  If we are not under that law, we cannot be guilty of transgressing it. 

 This has been my message for years, trying to get people free of that law.  For to be under that law, is to be in sin.  No one can keep it.  Do not kid yourselves.  You cannot keep it.

 

No one could be clear of sin, if they attempt to do it by the works of the law.

So Jesus was MANIFESTED to take away our sin.  How?  By showing us the message of GRACE.  By baptizing us into the body of Christ, where there is no sin.

 

In Jesus, in Christ,  in him,  there is no sin.  So if we are in him, we cannot be in sin.  If we are in sin, then it is clear, that we cannot be in him.  For in him is no sin.  If we abide in him, we have no sin.  If we abide in him, we are in grace and not under law, therefore we have no sin.

So as long as we abide in him, in his grace, we do not sin, for we have no sin.  There is no sin in him.

If we abide in him, then we do righteousness, else we would not be in him.  If we are not under law, then we are righteous, by faith.  The law is not of faith, therefore those under the law are in sin, for they have no faith.

Now watch this.  It is powerful.  v8--He that committeth sin is of the devil.

It proves what I have been teaching...if you are under the law, it is of the devil.  That law is not of God, because if you are sinning, you are of the devil.  If you are under the law, you are sinning, for sin is the transgression of the law, and where there is no law, there is no sin.

So the only way to not be in sin or sinning, is to not be under that law, and the only way to not be under that law, is by being baptized, by the Holy Ghost, the Acts way, into the body of Christ.

 

Without this baptism of the Holy Ghost, all are still under that law and therefore of the devil, because they have rejected the NT Grace Salvation.

By being baptized into Christ, his seed is in us, and therefore, by being in Christ, we CANNOT SIN, for we are not under the law, and where there is no law, there is no sin.  

He was manifested to take away our sins.  So if we are in him, he has taken away our sins and it is manifest that we are the children of God, because we do righteousness.

Therefore, the children of the devil declare their status, by declaring that they are still under the law.  Under the law, they have their sins, still imputed to them.  So because they refused the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, with the NT evidence of speaking in tongues, they are of the devil and still in their sins.

 

Thus the children of God are manifested in that they do not sin and are baptized with the Holy Ghost, which almost everyone hates.

Cain slew Abel, because his own works were evil.  Cain stayed under that law and hated the message of Grace.  So he killed Abel, because Abel refused the law system.  Everything proves this message of Adam and Cain taking that law.

 

We have a LAW, and by our LAW, He ought to die.  It all started with the murder of ABEL.

By:  Jo Smith  ~~ Oct. 3, 2008



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