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News & Activism_ : ICH: Bush Gets The Boot
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From: MSN NicknameLeilaOfTheWoods  (Original Message)Sent: 12/15/2008 8:40 AM

"What no one seemed to notice. . . was the ever widening gap. . .between the government and the people. . . And it became always wider. . . the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting, it provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway . . . (it) gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about . . .and kept us so busy with continuous changes and 'crises' and so fascinated . . . by the machinations of the 'national enemies,' without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. . .

 

Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, 'regretted,' that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these 'little measures'. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.

 

You don't want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined." :

From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11845.htm

 

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Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq
"1,284,105"
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
 
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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America'sWar On Iraq
4,209
http://icasualties.org/oif/
 
The War And Occupation Of Iraq Costs
$579,602,161,240
 
See the cost in your community
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182
 
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Bush Gets The Boot

 

Iraqi Journalist Insults President Bush

 

Video

 

Two shoes thrown at President Bush during press conference in Iraq.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21463.htm

 

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In Praise Of Muntather Al Zaidi

 

By Layla Anwar

 

Whilst Bush was pontificating from his ass, Muntather Al-Zaidi, a 28 years old journalist, a leftist, from the independent anti-occupation, anti-sectarian TV, Al-Baghdadia, stood up and threw not one shoe but TWO pair of shoes at Bush, calling him at the top of his voice YA KALB - YOU DOG.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21464.htm

 

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Gaza Families Eat Grass as Israel Bocks Food Aid

 

By Marie Colvin

 

The UN, which has responsibility for 1m refugees in Gaza, is in despair. - "Two weeks ago, for the first time in 60 years, we ran out of food," he said.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21455.htm

 

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Torture Speaks - Israel

 

Video By Al Jazeera

 

Since 1967, some 75,000, men and women have been in and out Israelis prison where they had been jailed for long periods of time. A large number of them say have been subjected to severe torture that left many of them physically and mentally handicapped.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21459.htm

 

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The Monster in the Mirror

 

By Arundhati Roy

 

The Mumbai attacks have been dubbed 'India's 9/11', and there are calls for a 9/11-style response, including an attack on Pakistan. Instead, the country must fight terrorism with justice, or face civil war.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21456.htm

 

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Iran Says Has Proof U.S., UK Back Police Killer Group

 

By Reuters

 

Iran has documents to prove the United States and Britain, the Islamic Republic's two Western arch foes, back a group that killed 16 abducted Iranian police officers, state radio reported on Saturday.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21458.htm

 

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CIA Helped Shoot Down 15 Planes in 'Drug War

 

By John Byrne

 

The CIA's clandestine role in Latin American politics continues.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21457.htm

 

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What Does Letting Our Own War Criminals Go Free Tell Us About Ourselves?

 

By Nat Hentoff

 

What has happened to the rule of law, and what has happened to Americans?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21461.htm

 

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 'License to Kill' ?
 
 4 Minute Video
 
 This song is a 'call to arms'. Or at least a call to link arms, and show that we see through the crumbling facade of military consumerism.... of dropping 100,000 dollar bombs on people who live on one dollar a day !
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21465.htm

 

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The End of Retirement?

 

By Shamus Cooke

 

Fighting the corporate strategy of bankruptcy and business closures is an immediate need of working people. This tactic will increase in number as the crisis deepens and companies strive to "restore profitability" by drastically lowering wages.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21460.htm

 

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Down to Zero

 

By David Glenn Cox

 

A government that shoots its people is declaring war upon them; a people that shoot back is a people pushed too far. A society that excludes its citizens from economic participation makes itself a foreign entity, unknown and unloved across the land.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21462.htm

 

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In case you missed it

 

Torture Inc. Americas Brutal Prisons

 

Savaged by dogs, Electrocuted With Cattle Prods, Burned By Toxic Chemicals, Does such barbaric abuse inside U.S. jails explain the horrors that were committed in Iraq?

 

By Deborah Davies

 

They are just some of the victims of wholesale torture taking place inside the U.S. prison system that we uncovered during a four-month investigation for Channel 4 . It's terrible to watch some of the videos and realise that you're not only seeing torture in action but, in the most extreme cases, you are witnessing young men dying. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8451.htm

 

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35 Taliban militants killed in 'clean-up': Afghan commander:

 

Thirty-five Taliban fighters have been killed in an operation to "clean up" areas controlled by the militants in a rebel-infested southern Afghan province, a military official said Sunday.
http://tinyurl.com/5o7oy2

 

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From: MSN NicknameLeilaOfTheWoodsSent: 12/15/2008 8:40 AM

Bomb kills 3, wounds 11 in Kandahar:

 

The attack targeted a police vehicle in the city of Kandahar, said Zalmai Ayubi, a spokesman for the governor.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/12/14/afghan-officers.html

 

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Three Canadian occupation force soldiers killed in Afghanistan:

 

Three Canadian soldiers were killed and one wounded in southern Afghanistan on Saturday when an explosive device detonated near the armored car in which they were riding, military officials said.
http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCATRE4BD03620081214?rpc=401&

 

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Taliban Raids on NATO Convoys Crippling - Analysts:

 

While NATO and United States forces have downplayed raids in Peshawar by pro-Taliban militants, destroying hundreds of their military vehicles and supply containers destined for Afghanistan, analysts here believe that the damage is significant.
http://ipsnews.net/text/news.asp?idnews=45107

 

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Face to face with the Taliban:

 

Exclusive report from a Taliban veteran's compound in Afghanistan and on the battlefield
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/14/afghanistan-terrorism

 

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No lying low, defensive Pak says will hit back if attacked :

 

As the pressure from the international community mounts to crack down on terror, Pakistan has gone on a defensive, saying it will fight back any country's attempt to "encroach upon its rights".
http://tinyurl.com/67y9go

 

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Tariq Ali: Brown's al-Qaida blame game:

 

Gordon Brown is targeting Pakistan. His claim that 75% of UK terror plots originate there is now part of a common western stance that refuses to accept any responsibility for encouraging the growth of recruits to ­jihadi organisations.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/14/pakistan-gordonbrown

 

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Beyond Belief:

 

Iraq war was needed for world peace: Bush:

 

 On a farewell trip to Iraq, President George W. Bush said on Sunday the war has been hard, but was necessary to protect the US and give Iraqis hope for a peaceful future.
http://www.godubai.com/gulftoday/article.asp?AID=35&Section=Main

 

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Troops Will Remain In Iraqi Cities After June, Odierno Says:

 

American combat troops will remain inside Iraqi cities to train and mentor Iraqi forces after next summer, despite a security agreement that calls for their withdrawal from urban areas by June 30, the top U.S. military commander said Saturday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/13/AR2008121300569.html

 

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Shiite lawmaker criticizes U.S. comments over troops remain in Iraqi cities after deadline:

 

Shiite lawmaker loyal to anti-U.S.occupation cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said that comments by top U.S. commander in Iraq over his troops to stay in Iraqi cities beyond deadline of mid 2009 is against U.S. commitments stated in the security pact.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-12/14/content_10502928.htm

 

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Iraq's reconstruction a 100-billion failure: report:

 

An unpublished US government report says US-led efforts to rebuild Iraq were crippled by bureaucratic turf wars, violence and ignorance of the basic elements of Iraqi society, resulting in a 100-billion-dollar failure, The New York Times reported on its website.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jDNSHXdC9wxqPbAXYs3HcR5Prxzg

 

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Iraqi justice system falls short: report:

 

Iraq is failing to give criminal suspects fair trials and abuse of prisoners appears common ahead of the transfer of thousands of detainees from U.S. prison camps to Iraqi control, a human rights group said on Monday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/14/AR2008121401853.html

 

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Jamaat-ud-Dawa leaders' could be released if there is no evidence, says top Pak cop:

 

Jihadi leaders, including five belonging to the banned Jamaat-ud-Dawa organization, who were placed under preventive detention, will be let off soon if there is no evidence of their involvement in the Mumbai terrorist attacks, the chief of police in Pakistan's Punjab Province, Inspector General of Police (IGP) Shaukat Javed has said.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3835206.cms

 

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Catastrophe for Gaza: .

 

Our food, fuel and medical supplies have been severely limited. The blockade has ruined our economy and reduced many among us to a level of economic desperation that has alarmed United Nations officials.
http://tinyurl.com/6p78nq

 

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Israel 'wants West Bank land':

 

Israel has proposed annexing 6.8 per cent of the illegally occupied West Bank, the chief Palestinian negotiator has said in his first detailed comments about the stalled US-backed negotiations.
http://tinyurl.com/6463m6

 

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300,000 attend 21st Hamas anniversary:

 

Around 300,000 Gazans gather to celebrate Hamas' 21st founding anniversary as the Hamas premier promises to defend Palestinian rights
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=78490§ionid=351020202

 

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Carter meets with political leader of Hamas in Syria:

 

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter met Sunday in Damascus, Syria, with Khaled Meshaal, the exiled leader of Hamas' political wing, a Hamas official said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/carter.hamas/index.html

 

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LRA base 'attacked' in DR Congo:

 

Troops from Uganda, the Democratic Republic of Congo and southern Sudan have attacked the bases of Uganda's Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) in eastern Congo, according to a joint statement from the armies.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2008/12/20081214181119165854.html

 

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Rwanda and DR Congo in 'proxy war':

 

Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo are engaged in a proxy war with each providing assistance to the other's enemies, a report by a United Nations Security Council panel has said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2008/12/200812137240698664.html

 

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Somali president sacks government:

 

"As of now, I have sacked the prime minister and his current government and I will nominate a new prime minister within days," Yusuf said on Sunday at a news conference in the town of Baidoa, where the government is based.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2008/12/200812147953267517.html

 

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Bush plans 'disastrous' last-minute moves on Somalia:

 

Potentially disastrous initiatives affecting Somalia are planned for the waning days of the Bush administration, critics in Washington warned last week.
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/-/2558/501672/-/rm61lmz/-/index.html

 

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CIA Embedded in Every State Government?:

 

Jesse Ventura Speaks about his personal experiences and knowledge of such facts!
http://tinyurl.com/66aq5q

 

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Citadel joins rush to lock up funds:

 

Citadel Investment Group has joined the rush of hedge funds suspending redemptions to investors, a development that is in effect locking up hundreds of billions of dollars in cash during a volatile period in global markets.
http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto121420081415017824

 

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Let us work towards Peace and Joy
 
Tom Feeley