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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatick  (Original Message)Sent: 2/3/2008 1:39 AM
Ok, I saw this one and fell in love with it..
it's part Pushing Daisies, Justice and just plain fun....
so This show may only be on a short while but I am going to force feed it to those that have not seen it and recap it to death...
Starting Sunday of course...
laughs, but will start it off like this...
 
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Eli Stone review

In our book, visions of George Michael beat out Donald Trump firing people any day

Admit it: At least once in your life, you’ve wished for George Michael to follow you around, singing, dancing and breathlessly bopping to “Faith.�?But, if given the choice between divine intervention and a brain aneurism as the cause of that personal soundtrack, you’d probably think twice.

One part Joan of Arc and one part “Ally McBeal,�?“Eli Stone�?follows an eccentric lawyer who has recently been afflicted with mysterious hallucinations. Realizing that these visions are actually guiding him to take certain cases (and not just breaking up the monotony of another legal drama with some CGI eye candy), Eli comes to the conclusion that George Michael might actually be sending him messages from God. Trying to differentiate between reality and illusion—and deal with the mixed reactions from his friends, family and colleagues—our newly put-upon hero sets out to live a more fulfilling life.

Who’s that?: Jonny Lee Miller, of �?0s cinematic treasures like “Hackers�?and “Trainspotting,�?stars as Eli; Loretta Devine plays his skeptical but doting assistant, Patti; Victor Garber is Eli’s boss, Jordan Wethersby; and Natasha Henstridge doubles as Jordan’s daughter and Eli’s fiancé, Taylor. Julie Gonzalo (she played Parker Lee on season three of “Veronica Mars�? also shows up as Maggie, another attorney at Eli’s firm.

Buzzed about: Eli’s first case of the series finds him suing a pharmaceutical company over allegations that one of their vaccines causes autism in children. The American Academy of Pediatrics caught wind of this and demanded ABC kill the episode because it might spread misinformation. Despite the notorious sway of the AAP [insert muffled laughter here], the show is airing as planned.

The “ooh�?factor: It’s new and it’s not “The Celebrity Apprentice.�?What else do you want?

The “eh�?factor: Eli’s mind may be filled with fantastic visions of choreographed dances, prop planes and magical time-machine trolleys, but his show suffers a little lack of imagination. The premise is interesting and the performances are strong, but too often, it seems like just another lawyer show.

The verdict: With a range of emotions and the truly likable element he brings to the character, Jonny Lee Miller is reason enough to give “Eli Stone�?a try.



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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/10/2008 10:23 PM

Eli Stone: Help

(S02E07) Remember how in the past I’ve praised this show for its constant evolution - and improvement - episodes after episodes ? It’s always been something very special on this show, things never really stayed the same, in more than one way. But lately I’m starting to wonder if this might not actually be the cause of his demise, and where the show is stating to lose itself.

Because if it’s one thing to always have things in motion, and never simply redo the same old formula applied to each and every episodes, it’s also something else completely to take what the show once was, and turn it into something entirely different. Now, I’m not saying this is what happened here on Eli Stone, but it does feel like we’re heading that way.

This week, we had an episode that actually had some good things to offer : I was waiting for Keith to do something else than just stand there or walk by every once in a while, and he did. I also had my doubts about the whole thing with Angela, but her story turned out to be pretty good, if only because she really was a drug dealer and not some innocent helpless victim of a conspiracy, and it even got us to find out more about Patti and her troubled past. (Of course, it also suffered from a conclusion that felt a little but too easy, but�?

But you see, I’m also wondering whether or not this show is still the same as last season ? Because this episode also felt to me as if they threw in a little vision during the opening scene, just so that the actual premise of the show still stands, and then we forgot about it completely. Sure, at first Eli had to hide his visions which obviously would have them highlighted in a way, but he also had visions, a lot.

Every day, all day long, even in court, he was constantly having visions that were guiding him somehow, but now things are a lot more “normal�?on that area, except for a small vision while in a theater, Eli is having vision-free days, and just going by his days as before the whole aneurysm kicked in. It’s nothing new, recently he was even choosing when he wanted to have a vision, thanks to his buddy Chen.

It’s almost as if the whole premise of the visions guiding Eli has been forgotten, almost like the fact that he’s a lawyer, that they’re all lawyers actually. The show used to see Eli deal with his many visions and how they related to the case he was working on, while others had they own case to trial. Nowadays, Eli has the occasional vision just because this is still Eli Stone, and then he does his things like anybody else, expect for that he was “told�?to take the case by a higher power.

Meanwhile, when the rest of the people around are not working with Eli, they’re only dealing with their personal stuff. For instance this week, Jordan was having marital issues and Matt was finally saying those three words to Taylor, three words she wasn’t ready to say back just yet. And it’s not that it wasn’t badly done, but throwing in a singer on a stage while they’re doing it simple isn’t enough to do the trick for me.

Sure, singing was always there, but it also was there because Eli used to have visions of George Michael, as he then was the guy on stage, all the time. There was a connection behind it all, and guess what ? It even connected with the whole lawyer aspect of the show, when he got involved in a case Eli worked on. But in recent episodes, the visions have been incredibly tuned down (making me think that the whole “Live Brave�?isn’t happening any time soon, if at all) and even the lawyer business isn’t there as much.

Yes Maggie and Matt were on a case this week, but does anyone know what it was about ? Not really, because it was about getting getting Seal to come and sing, really. And with all the many coincidences we’ve had in the past maybe this one wasn’t all that big, but that Ashley Cardiff, the client who knows Heidi Klum or something, turns out also to be the one Chen set Eli up on a blind date with, just somehow seemed a little bit too much, no?

Maybe it’s just part of the overall evolution of the show, but I’m starting to feel like this isn’t really Eli Stone, like it’s morphing into a different show, only with the same characters still in it.

(and sadly I have to agree...)


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/10/2008 10:32 PM

The meaning of innocence

ELI STONE: 2.07 “Help�?/STRONG>

So what then? What do you do when you know that? When you know that maybe�?you can’t help?

That’s a quote from Buffy in an episode that has the same name as this week’s Eli Stone: “Help.�?/SPAN>

It’s an interesting thing, helping. Clearly, Patty needed it in more than one way when she didn’t even know it. And clearly, Eli is struggling with his visions enough no longer to read between the lines and is only helping on the surface.

Eli’s struggle with his visions this season has morphed a little, if you’ve noticed. He’s a veteran vision-holder, and he thinks he has a handle on it. Chen sees the errors in his way, but Eli doesn’t listen. What’s funny is that his is very similar to the first mid-season Joan of Arcadia, where Joan assumes she knows what God is asking her to do–on the surface only. She’s not yet understanding the ripples.

Last night, Eli got a vision from Patty, asking for help and telling him that “she is innocent.�?He then relays this to Patty, saying that he got a message saying that her daughter is innocent. The only thing he didn’t mention was that Patty was the one saying it, which in the end we find is the most important part–as it’s what makes it a metaphor, not exactly truth.

Patty’s daughter was loosely dealing drugs; basically, she was trading prescription medication for coke. Then, she was lying about it.

Keith knew the whole time; Eli believed his vision. Once Eli’s faith was broken, he truly wondered what to do. How to help. She was guilty, which made his vision false and he didn’t know what to do.

I’m skeptical that Patty would have an alcohol problem, honestly, but it looks like that’s the way we’re going. To me, it sounded completely out of place and out of character, but it gave a reason for her daughter to have a drug dependency. Surely, it couldn’t have been the pressures of med school or maybe peer pressure in college since she finally broke out of her mother’s tight grasp. Nope, it had to be the similarity of addiction.

I wish they’d chosen a different route, even if they all are cliche. I must give props to one line, though. I loved that Jordan referenced Patty as becoming “dry,�?not “sober.�?It’s a fine line that I’ve never thought of before.

In the end, Eli found his way to help–and Keith did, too. His help was for Patty, and Keith handled her daughter. So what do you do, when you know you can’t help? For Eli, stop looking for the obvious. They’re only visions for a reason.

The rest of the show seemed less interesting to me, though I’m enjoying the Dowd’s turnaround. And I’m wondering where we’re going with the heiress�?involvement with Eli. Whatever it is, they better wrap it up soon. While I’m happy that ABC is allowing Eli enough episodes to finish up storylines, the show is still cancelled, and there’s not much time to build things. It looks like we might get another quick tie-up, like Studio 60.

But at least it gets that.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/11/2008 7:43 PM

(Season 2, Episode 7 - “Help!�?

If you needed to chose one word that could describe this protracted season of Eli Stone it would be ‘change�? Since the first minute of the first hour of the second season, the lives of all of the show’s major players have changed in so many ways. Whether it be a move to a law firm, a promotion, or a relationship change, everyone’s lives have been affected.

This week the Change Fairy struck Patti on the head and continued to pound on Matt Dowd as he continued his transformation from suave, arrogant attorney to a slobbering love puppy. It also continued to tap on Jordan as his evolution continued. Come, let us journey to the world of Eli Stone to see what happened in the lives of these fine folks.

Patti and Angela’s deep dark secrets: Who knew? Since the show began we always thought of Patti as this fairly clean-cut personality. A little strong headed at times, but an all-around honest person. An alcoholic? Well, I guess it’s those you think the least likely to be alcoholics turn out to be the ones who are.

The worst part of it all was that she wasn’t even in the ‘recovering�?stage of alcoholism. It was just there, simmering for a time to resurface. That time was this week �?a particularly bad one for Patti. Not only was her daughter arrested but she turned out to be a drug addict. Well, that one we knew about. Angela’s angry denials and emphasis on her antibiotic use to Keith last week signaled something was definitely wrong with her.

Considering their circumstances, things turned out as okay as they could with both Angela and Patti. Angela really got off scot-free thanks to some finagling by Keith (who, by the way, may need to be investigated by the Bar for allegedly withholding evidence) while Patti headed on the road to recovery from alcoholism. I’m just not sure who had the harder road to hoe.

More of Keith: Though he was introduced to us last season, we have seen very little of Keith throughout the series. The last three episodes have probably given us the deepest look into his life. If anything, he is a pretty no-nonsense attorney who looks at the facts rather than believe that someone, namely Eli, has visions about their client’s innocence. Hey, doesn’t he remember who saved him during the last earthquake? It’s too bad that we won’t get to know more about Keith before the series ends.

Taylor’s a pregnant dude: Who’s the guy who replaced Matt? So self-assured and smug during the first half of last season, Dowd has become almost needy in the way he’s looking for Taylor’s response. Buying flowers and a chocolate bear for Taylor after their argument? Holy heck, he’s been replaced by an alien!

Okay, he has every right to feel the way that he does. I mean, Taylor is having his baby and he wants to be part of the whole experience, both as father and as romantic partner. Taylor, for her part, is holding her feelings back more than Scrooge holds back his money to Bob Cratchit. Partly because she doesn’t want to feel the same pain she did with Eli and partly because she really doesn’t know how she feels about Matt. There was some sort of resolution at the end of the episode, but it wasn’t really closure.

Maggie’s new client: Something is wrong here. Ashley Cardiff says she’s not trying to buy a conscience. Yet, here she is getting Seal tickets for Matt so he can woo Taylor. Isn’t this somewhat unethical? Unless Matt paid for the tickets, which wasn’t revealed. I wonder if Ashley is perhaps the personification of something a bit evil that will be a test for both Matt and Maggie. Stay tuned (for as long as you can, that is).

Another misunderstood vision: What’s going on with Eli lately? His visions were pretty easy to read prior to the circumstances of the last three weeks. Now, he has misinterpreted two visions in a row �?the last one being the ‘Don’t mess around with Jim�?hallucination. This week he misunderstood the vision Patti that said ’she is innocent.�?I wasn’t too sure what the exact meaning of the vision was, but it seems that she was talking more about herself than her daughter.

The continuing evolution of Jordan: Sometimes the re-imaging of oneself leads to sacrifices. In this case it’s a broken marriage for Jordan. At the beginning, after his rescue, it looked like Jordan’s marriage was going to last. I guess the long hours at the office and the loss of income drove a wedge between the two. It’s sad, because Jordan could certainly use all of the support he can get during this time of change.

The message of the show �?and a dedication to John Lennon?: The title of this week’s Eli Stone was “Help,�?as was the Beatles�?tune that Patti sung during his vision (and, a nice rendition of the song to boot). I wonder if the creators and producers of this show knew that it would be airing right around the anniversary of John Lennon’s death. If so, then a nice dedication it was. If not, it’s a strange coincidence that not even Eli could have envisioned.

Next week on Eli Stone: Eli gets jiggy with a new love interest.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/12/2008 5:54 AM

Eli Stone: Help! (Episode 207)

Eli's on a man-date at the movies with Chen when he gets his weekly vision: it's Patti, singing to him from inside the movie, a melancholy version of the Beatles' "Help!" She needs someone, not just anybody, you see. Eli's entranced, and saddened, and sort of confused, especially when Patti reaches out to him and says, "She's innocent."

The next day at work, Patti finds out that her daughter's been hauled away by the police. Turns out that after her "false positive" defense last week, Angie's been arrested for possession and intent to distribute. She's accused of stealing pain medication from the hospital where she works. Eli tells Patti, who's a wreck, that God let him know for sure that Angela's innocent, and Patti clings to that. Eli and Keith take up Angie's cause; Eli tells Keith that Angie's innocence was "revealed to him." Keith's less certain, but he tells Angie that whether she's guilty or not, she gets his A game. She tells the boys that she tried coke once, at a post-exam party. It was given to her by another student, who she tells Eli and Keith to find. But Keith instead finds Angela's dealer. He tells Eli and Keith that Angela was a regular customer until she couldn't pay up anymore. And then she suggested a trade: the drugs she's accused of stealing, which according to the dealer, are gold on the street, to clear her debt.

Eli's devastated to have to tell Patti. He grumps about it to Chen, how everyone he envisions ends up getting spiritually kicked in the ass. Chen, who's been poking Eli to go on a blind date with one of his super-cute, delightful patients, asks if this is why Eli's taken himself off the market. Eli admits that it seems everyone he sees himself helping ends up smarting from it in the long run: Taylor, who he dumped; Maggie, who did the dumping; Grace, who left the country. Chen reminds him that he's helped so many people, and that as a prophet, he's meant to connect to people. Eli says that he's always been connected to Patti; she believed in him before he was a prophet, when he was a lawyer and a jerk. She's been his rock without hesitation. And when Eli tells her about his meeting with the dealer, she starts to lose it. She turns on Angie, who crumbles, saying that Patti has always put so much pressure on her, and if she were half the mother she thinks she is, she would have seen how unhappy Angela is, how unhappy she's been for a long time. Patti says she's always worked her ass off to make Angie's life better, but Angela says that she would have seen how deep Angela was in if not for her own problem. The fight ends when Patti hauls off and slaps Angela for calling her a terrible mother. Eli tries to comfort Patti, who viciously tells him she never should have put her faith in him.

Elsewhere at the new firm, Taylor's told by an accountant that her dad's been using the company card to pay for a hotel room. He admits that he and his wife are separated. Taylor offers him a place to stay, but he turns her down, as he's not one to crash at someone else's pad. Instead, he skulks around the firm a whole bunch. Taylor's avoiding any discussion of her own problems, which are largely that she has no idea how to deal with Matt, who accompanies her to her first sonogram. They're both overwhelmed at seeing the baby and its heartbeat. Maggie, Matt's new bestie, tells Matt that he has to be prepared for all the big stuff, because he's going to be a daddy. She tells him to tell Taylor he loves her, because it seems the actual words have thus far escaped him. He decides to take Taylor to a Seal concert, and thanks to a philanthropically minded heiress setting up a trust with Matt and Maggie, gets a pretty sweet table seating for them. Matt screws his courage to the sticking point just enough to tell Taylor he loves her, but it can't prepare him for how wounded and angry he is when Taylor doesn't respond in kind. Taylor tells him that she doesn't want to tell him she loves him when she's not sure that's how she feels. He figures out that in their relationship, Taylor is the dude: afraid of her feelings, unable to speak them, and too freaked to commit. Taylor makes what amends she can by getting Maggie to give up the Seal connection and securing a private performance for Matt to prove that while she's not sure she can say she loves him yet, she thinks the yet has a definite shelf life. They make up enough to read "What to Expect When You're Expecting" in bed. Without Seal, and without the heiress, Ashley, who Maggie has decided is just the coolest for playing cupid.

Jordan's skulking around the firm late when he finds Eli, and when Eli tells him that he can't get Patti to talk to him, Jordan breaks an old confidence and lays it out for him: Patti has a drinking problem. Before Eli came to WPK, Patti's drinking was out of control. Jordan got a call from a bar where Patti had worn out her welcome, and Jordan told her to get her shit together or go home. She went dry, as JOrdan puts it, but didn't really get sober. In hard times, she doesn't have the same coping skills she might if she'd gone through a program. Eli finds her at her old bar, where she's basically ilke, dude, why you got to harsh my buzz? She had a crap week and she's just trying to feel better. Eli asks if it's working. Meanwhile, Keith finds Angie as she's about to jump the bail Eli posted and tells her that she doesn't have to be this druggie skel disappointing everyone: she can be the Angie he knows she's capable of.

In the end, Keith and Eli are able to cut a deal: rehab, followed by 2,000 hours of community service, but no jail. Angela's also booted from her med school program, but Keith says that if she really wants to be a doctor, she'll find a way. Angie and her mom make up, Patti admitting that she has to let Angela fix her own problems, and she has to figure out how to deal with her own. Angela thinks they can help each other. She signs herself into rehab, with Keith showing up to offer his support. Patti finds an AA meeting and tentatively joins in.

Eli, meanwhile, takes Chen up on his blind-date fix-up, only to meet none other than Maggie's favorite heiress, Ashley.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/17/2008 6:55 PM

'Eli Stone': Fear the hormones

 So at the beginning of this week's Eli Stone, all -- well, most -- seems right with the world for our favorite modern prophet. He's happy. He's dating an heiress with a sassy streak, who's interested in, ahem, getting to know him better (and boy does she). And his vision is a hopeful one -- a woman named Jenny Clark wins the Nobel Peace Prize for her work on cold fusion, which helps wean the world from its oil dependency. But of course, there's always a catch. Or several.

Spoilers of the dark truth variety ahead...

Eli goes to see Dr. Chen post-vision, ostensibly to thank Chen for setting him up with Ashley (Bridget Moynihan). Chen immediately guesses about Eli's third-date intimacies. "About time, bro," he tells Eli, who's relieved for once to actually feel like a normal person. Later, when he checks in with Patti as she looks for the future Nobel laureate, she guesses as well. "You finally got yourself some!" she says. "I was wondering if you'd taken a vow of chastity." Later on, Nate guesses that Eli has gotten lucky ("You finally let the little attorney out of his briefs!") as well. Apparently there's no such thing as discretion, but it's a happy occasion, so what the hell.

Eli's got a hunch that the Janelle clark, a college dropout who works at a Home Depot-style big box store, is the future Nobel laureate. He goes to see her at her trailer, asking if she might need a lawyer, when a crowd of FBI agents screeches up and arrests her for alleged terrorist activity. She's being accused of building a dirty bomb in her backyard. When he goes with Eli to meet with Jenny, Keith's incredulous about the charges -- but this time he's not questioning Eli, who knows Jenny was working on a safe form of nuclear energy -- cold fusion.

In court, we learn that the feds were tipped off by one of Jenny's co-workers, and their search -- properly conducted under the Patriot Act -- led them to a lead-lined shed. It was filled with hundreds of smoke alarms and glow-in-the-dark clocks that had been stripped of their nuclear materials. But no explosive devices were found, and no plans or diagrams or journal entries gave any indication Jenny had plans to build a bomb. Even so, the jury thinks she's a female Ted Kaczynski, the lawyers tell her. "Kaczynski -- that guy was a hack," Jenny snorts. "You ever see his work? Shoddy."

She's trying to act tough, and her stand against the system is legitimate -- she saw her father's plan for an engine that gets 59 miles to the gallon back in 1979 get squashed by the government and big oil. It made her want to fight back and find a way to not be dependent on oil. In the meantime, Eli took Jenny's notebook to the head of the physics department at Stanford, who said her notebook contains some of the most advanced mathematics and innovative reasoning he's ever seen -- and no discussion of anything weaponlike. "Jenny's may be the most significant contribution toward a carbon-free energy economy since we first split the atom," his affadavit reads. "That's nice," she responds. "But the point is -- not a bomb."

Ultimately the judge calls out the terrorism charges for the bogus attempt at conviction that they are, but acknowledges that Jenny broke the law by stripping the nuclear materials out of the household items, even though they were legally obtained. That said, he doesn't want to be the judge who put the next Einstein in prison. Work it out, he tells Eli.

 Which brings us back to the vision. Keith believes Jenny's story, but he doesn't share Eli's faith that cold fusion will be solved in the next 40 years, based on an article written by Irving Wallenberg, the head of the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Who, coincidentally, is the guy who presents Jenny with her Nobel Prize in Eli's vision. They show Jenny's notebook to Dr. Wallenberg, who's impressed enough that he agrees to help get the charges dropped against her if she goes to work for him. Eli responds to her initial refusal to work for The Man by saying she has a gift -- and having that gift means owing it to the world to use it. "You don't get to say no," he tells her. "No matter how much you might want to."

Then there's Ashley the Heiress. She's still looking for a way to give some of her family's fortune to a worthy environmental cause. Maggie's in the midst of pitching sea otters (I can't even get into all the things that are wrong with that) when Ashley tells her about dating Eli. She's not looking for anything serious, but she's not bored yet, so she'll keep him around for a while, Ashley tells Maggie.

 Yet Eli, loving this new feeling, wants to tell Ashley that he's a prophet. He should probably wait until after the fourth date, but whatever. "Some people don't get it, but some people think it's a gift," he says when he breaks the news. "Jewelry is a gift," Ashley responds. "You just told me you work for God." She's not terribly receptive to the idea, and Eli's devastated at her reaction. It's back to Dr. Chen, who quite rightly reasons that even though Eli was nuts to tell Ashley, if she can't handle who he is it's better off that he know now.

For a bit it looks as though he may have talked her into continuing to hang out with him -- despite a visit from Maggie warning Eli that Ashley doesn't exactly have a long attention span. But in the end she doesn't have the staying power. Ashley stands him up for dinner at Nate and Beth's -- who are eloping to Las Vegas, by the way -- and apologizes later by saying she's just not a serious person.

 Meanwhile, Taylor insists on representing Jordan in his divorce, much to his initial consternation. "I'm sorry to have to play this card," she tells him, "but I'm starving and moody and my pants are being held together by a rubber band. Now you call Diane [his original divorce lawyer] and tell her I'm taking over or no baby pictures!" Jordan's wife, Ellen, is demanding a hefty financial settlement that he's no longer prepared to give, since his money's all tied up with the new firm. Taylor tries to reason with Ellen and her lawyer, but to no avail.

Taylor talks through the conundrum of her father's divorce with Matt while trying on clothes at a maternity store, and he's surprisingly astute with his advice. Go talk to her and work it out, he says. Taylor goes to see Ellen, who says forgive her for sounding selfish, but she won't be victim to the same tactics Jordan used on Taylor's mother, she says. Turns out that when he left his first wife, Jordan hid his assets in offshore accounts, then hired a great divorce attorney, took his wife to court and got full custody of Taylor. That explanation sounds a whole lot more reasonable than Ellen's lawyer's argument that she had a certain expectation of a kind of lifestyle when she married Jordan.

 Taylor, aghast that the story of what really happened between her parents is so different from the version she believes to be true -- that her mother abandoned her -- is understandably very upset after she confirms Ellen's story with Jordan's first divorce lawyer. She lays into Jordan for fundamentally changing whatever relationship she might have had with her mother, which has affected every aspect of her life. In the end, Ellen gets the house, the car, and alimony -- and Jordan admits he hasn't been a great person in the past. But the question now is how much and for how long Taylor and Jordan's relationship will be disrupted or altered by this.

Ultimately, it comes back to Eli. Upset about Ashley and tired of being the one who's supposed to help everyone else but has to sacrifice a normal life to do it, he turns once again to Dr. Chen. He wants Chen to practice the Dark Truth accupuncture technique on him again, so he can see his future. Chen wisely refuses, noting how dangerous it is, particularly for someone with Eli's medical condition -- and he's not going to risk Eli's life to help him straighten out his love life. But Eli's lonely and fed up, and it stinks. So in the end, he goes to see Dr. Lee, Chen's competition from down the street, and offers to pay big to get the procedure. Against her better judgment, they go ahead -- and she warns him that it'll be painful. What he ends up seeing is painful indeed: Beth leaving Nate at the altar.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/17/2008 7:04 PM

Eli and Ashley have wine at a tasting class. The two giggle and the instructor calls them out. She then says that she'll buy everything. The two leave and talk about how they get kicked out of everything. She tells Eli that she's had to restrain herself from ripping his clothes off over the last three dates. The two start to make out, go back to Eli's place, and quickly tell each other more about their pasts as they undress.

Eli kisses Ashley as she sleeps. He then hears noises outside. He steps on to his balcony and sees large video ads about clean energy. A Nobel prize is awarded to a woman named Jenny Clark for the invention of cold fusion technology and Eli claps. Ashley walks out and sees Eli clapping. She asks what he is doing and he says he is clapping for her.

Eli goes to Dr. Chen and tells him about the new eastern medicine clinic. Dr. Chen is annoyed. He says he knows Dr.Lee and they had the same teacher. Eli thanks Dr. Chen for introducing him to Ashley. Eli then tells Dr. Chen that he saw a woman in the future get a Nobel prize for energy and he has Patti researching it now.

Eli checks on Patti's search. She says that there are dozens of Jenny Clarks in the area and she has made a lot of awkward phone calls. Patti realizes that Eli had sex, but Eli won't talk about it. Patti then says she found a Jenny Clark who has a degree in science. Eli says that she lives in New Jersey and he can't represent her. Patti then says that a local Jenny Clark recently dropped out of school. Eli goes to the local Jenny and asks if she needs help. She says no, then the police arrive and arrest her for building a nuclear bomb in her back yard.

Taylor asks Jordan to let her represent him in the divorce. Jordan says he doesn't feel comfortable with her representing him. She tells him that she needs to and he finally agrees. They then meet with Ellen and her lawyer. They argue that Ellen is seeking alimony to keep her in the same lifestyle she was used to. Taylor says that things have changed and Ellen promised to stick with him. Ellen says she she never agreed to his business change.

Eli has Keith help him with Jenny's case. Eli says that they found some nuclear materials at her home, but none were radioactive. Keith says that it looks like she is a terrorist. Jenny says she wasn't building a bomb. Eli says that he knows she was trying to make cold fusion technology. Keith says that would be a big invention. Jenny says that she won't talk about her work in public.

Maggie goes over Ashley's trust fund with Ashley. Maggie tells Ashley the things she could do with her money. Ashley says she just wants to undo some of the harm done to the environment by her father. Ashley then gets a text from Eli. Maggie says she knows Eli, says he is a good guy and asks if she knows about his condition. Ashley says she knows and things were great until she saw him clapping outside. Maggie says that Eli is special. Ashley says that although he is a little weird, she thinks she will keep Eli around a little longer.

Eli meets with Nate who is constructing his new clinic. Nate is truly happy, then realizes that Eli has finally gone all the way. Eli gets a text from Ashley and giggles. Nate asks if he told her about the aneurysm and Eli says she already knows, but he is going to tell her the rest later. Eli then meets with Ashley and tells her about his visions. Ashley is overwhelmed and Eli regrets telling her. He asks if she can forget he told her.

Eli goes to Dr. Chen and tells him that he told Ashley about his visions. Dr. Chen says he can't drop bombs on people like that. Eli asks why he set him up with someone who wouldn't understand his situation. Dr. Chen tells Eli that he can't expect someone to understand something like that so soon. Eli notices that Dr. Chen is cranky. Dr. Chen admits that his business is slow because of Dr. Lee's new practice.

Taylor talks to Matt about her father's divorce. He tells her that he always thought she and Ellen had a good relationship. Taylor says they did, but Ellen never replaced her mother. Matt points out that her mother abandoned her and suggests that she go talk to Ellen to work something out. Taylor tells Matt she hates it when he's right.

Jenny's case goes to court and the officers describe the materials found in Jenny's home. Eli asks why someone would have those materials. The officer says that someone would use the materials to make a dirty bomb. Eli asks if they found any materials that were radioactive or diagrams for a dirty bomb. The officer says no. Eli then asks if it's possible that Jenny was developing something useful to the public. The officer points out that Jenny dropped out of school and couldn't possibly be doing anything that sophisticated.

Eli asks Jenny to take the stand, but she says no. He tells her that she has a brilliant mind and needs to let people see it. She then agrees, but says she won't wear a dress.

Taylor meets with Ellen and tries to talk to her as friends. Ellen says she always envied pregnant women. Taylor says that Jordan can't afford to pay her what she wants. Ellen says that Jordan can sell a lot of things and she won't let him do what he did to Taylor's mother. Ellen explains that Jordan hid his assets and had her mother declared incompetent so he would get full custody of her. Taylor doesn't believe her, but Ellen assures her it's true.

Maggie meets with Eli and reminds him that they were friends. He asks if they can be friends again. She asks Eli about him dating Ashley. Maggie says she thinks Ashley is fantastic. Eli says that he doesn't think they are dating anymore because he told her about his visions. Maggie asks why he did that and Eli says he doesn't know. Maggie then says that it's probably not a bad thing then says she told Ashley he was special. Eli is upset that Maggie said he was special. Maggie gets mad and says she was just trying to protect him. She then says she doesn't think he's special anymore, she thinks he's an a$$.

Jenny takes the stand and Eli asks about her notebook. Eli says he took her notebook to a Stanford professor. Jenny is annoyed, but Eli continues by saying the professor complimented her work and said there was nothing that could be used as a weapon. Eli asks Jenny to describe what she was working on. In scientific terms, Jenny explains that if she can get it right, her work could be used for cold fusion. Eli then reads the professor's statement that says Jenny's work is the closest thing he's seen towards a carbon free future.

Eli calls Ashley and tells her that he's normal most of the time. Eli asks her to have dinner with him and his brother later. Ashley says no at first, then changes her mind.

Eli and Keith go back to court and Jenny is cross examined. The opposition lawyer asks Jenny if she has any friends or social life. Jenny says she is not a recluse unibomber. She says her father worked for the auto industry all his life and developed an engine that could get 50 miles per gallon, but his invention was silenced. Jenny says that she won't let her work be silenced. The judge then calls the lawyers to meet with him in private.

The judge says it's obvious that Jenny was not developing any weapons. The opposition lawyer says that he will only ask for 25 years for having illegal materials. Eli and Keith object. The judge tells Eli to figure something out.

Eli meets with Nate and Beth and wonders why Ashley is late. Beth tells Eli that Ashley is lucky and he's a catch. Eli gets a text and learns that Ashley is not coming. Eli then finds some plane tickets to Vegas. Beth admits that she and Nate are eloping and they want him to be there. Eli is excited.

Jordan finds Taylor and asks if she is avoiding him. She tells him that she just spoke to his former divorce attorney and he confirmed what Ellen told her about what he did to her mother. Jordan tells Taylor it's complicated. Jordan assures her that her mother did run out, but Taylor is upset that she never got to have a relationship with her mother. Jordan says that he begged her mother to stay. Taylor tells Jordan to leave her alone.

Eli finds Ashley waiting for him. She apologizes to him for standing him up. She says she was about to go, but started thinking about what it means to date someone with so much baggage. Ashley says she isn't a serious person. Eli says things aren't serious with him all the time. She says his life threatening condition that causes him to have visions is serious and she can't pretend it's normal. She says she's sorry, then leaves.

Dr. Chen teases Eli for making an appointment and says it must be something serious. He then realizes that Ashley dumped him. Eli says that he's lonely and he doesn't think it's fair that he gets to see other people's futures, but he can't see his. Eli asks Dr. Chen to do the 'dark truth' on him again. Dr. Chen says he won't use the technique on him again because it's dangerous. Dr. Chen tells Eli he isn't alone because of his ability, he just hasn't found the right person yet. He tells Eli he won't risk his health for his love life.

Eli works on Jenny's case. Keith asks if he's had any luck, but Eli says no. Keith suggests that Eli's vision might be wrong. Keith tells Eli about Irving Wallander who says they won't have cold fusion technology for decades. Eli realizes Irving was the man who gave Jenny the Nobel prize in his vision. Eli then introduces Jenny to Irving and says that Irving will have all the charges dropped against her if she'll go work for him. Jenny refuses. Eli tells Jenny she has to or she will go to prison. He says that if she thinks people don't listen to her now, they really won't if she's an ex-con. Eli says that he knows what it's like to have a gift. He says that she doesn't own the gift, the world does and it's her responsibility to share it.

Jordan and Ellen reach an agreement in the divorce. Jordan asks Taylor to talk, but she says no. Ellen thanks Taylor and tells her she didn't want to cause a rift between her and her dad. Ellen tells Taylor she is Jordan's whole world. Jordan goes to Taylor and says that what he did to her mother was unforgivable, but he didn't want to be a weekend father. He apologizes, but Taylor says it's not enough.

Nate meets Eli at his office. Eli says that he just won his case, but Ashley dumped him. Eli says that he'll be fine and he's looking forward to Nate's wedding. Eli then meets with Dr.Lee and tells her that he had the 'dark truth' acupuncture done to him before and he wants her to do if for him again. She says she never heard of it, but Eli says he knows she was trained in it. She tells him it's too dangerous and she won't do it. Eli says he'll pay. She finally agrees and performs the acupuncture. Eli flashes to a vision of Nate and Beth's wedding. He sees Beth tell Nate she can't marry him.

Thoughts

I understand why Taylor would be mad at her father for tricking her mother out of his assets, but I don't think she can blame him for causing her not to have a relationship with her mother. Taylor is a grown woman with connections and she could establish a relationship with her mother if she really wanted to. Jordan obviously loved her and she shouldn't blame him entirely for not knowing her mother. Hopefully Taylor will realize how important it is for a child to know both parents and won't try to distance Matt from their baby. I'm surprised that Ashley knew about Eli's aneurysm, but not about his visions. I would think that if she was okay with his medical condition, she would also be okay with the mental repercussions. I suppose she was just looking for an excuse to not date Eli anymore. I wonder if Eli's vision of Nate and Beth's wedding was accurate. I think he might be getting mixed signals since he was being treated by an unfamiliar doctor. Hopefully Eli's seeing Dr. Lee won't ruin his relationship with Dr. Chen.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/17/2008 7:14 PM

Eli Stone: Owner Of A Lonely Heart

(S02E08) I remember how last time, I was worried about what was going on with this show, how its constant evolution might had it lost itself and forget what was, it used to be or was supposed to be. It felt like the show did resemble what it originally was, to the point where I wasn’t sure whether or not this was still really Eli Stone, the show that I loved.

So I’m happy to say that this week felt a little bit more “normal�?than last episode. It’s still quite different that what it used to be last season, in the way Eli deals with everything that happens to him, and there’s still a focus more on the personal aspect of everyone’s life that there used to be, but I guess I just really liked this episode.

I did, I really did. It is true that Eli kept focusing a lot in his personal life, with what at first seemed like a very nice new relationship, only to end up as quickly as it began and, quite frankly, rendering the whole thing a bit pointless. Sure, we had to have Eli worry about whether or not he’d end up alone, him feeling the weight of loneliness and all of that, but bringing in a potential love interest only to get ride of her the next day, pretty much, after having been through about the exact same things before already, it really didn’t work that good for me.

Just like the “small world�?and how Maggie ended up discussion Eli’s private (and sexual) life and got to be mad at him, again. It all didn’t really seem to go anywhere. And maybe it’s me, but I didn’t care that much about the whole mess with Jordan’s past and his lies to Taylor about her mother. Maybe I am alone on that one, but I do wish we’d have a little less of the personal lives of everyone, and more of what made Eli Stone what it originally was.

I wasn’t too happy about the return of the “magic pin�?that makes Eli see the future on demand, I actually really disliked that, and completely hated it when it eventually only ended up back into the personal lives of people, here Nate and his upcoming wedding that won’t be. I would much rather see Eli have visions like he used to, all the time, to guide him in his cases, and not one single vision per episode.

I’d much rather see him having to deal with Patty, that merely see her so we could focus on Jordan’s new divorce which, really, bored me. Side note: she might be pregnant, but damn Taylor can change dresses faster that anyone, can’t she!?? How long did it took her to go from one dress to another ? About 10 seconds, not even! And she is very much pregnant.

Anyways, one thing I actually liked this week, very much so, was Eli having to actually work a new case, helping people like he used to in the good old days. I liked the story about Jenny, future Peace Nobel Prize winner and for now rebel genius-teenager. I liked from the very first time we saw her, and she was still wearing her uniform from The Work Bench which, to me, could only be a shout-out to Reaper.

Of course, her rebel attitude brought a lot of much-welcome humor into the episode, and made the entire thing a lot of fun. I do wish Eli had more than one vision to guide him, as he used to, and I found odd how she didn’t seem to care about how much Eli knew about her and her work while she hadn’t mentioned it to anyone, or how he knew she needed a lawyer before she actually did need one.

But you know what, that story was just great and I’ll take it as it was. Had a good time with this episode, thanks to Jenny and her case, and I actually liked the 12-year-old girl in Eli, texting his girlfriend with a huge grin on his face. But since that was cut short, and with the prospect of Eli diving back into personal stuff as his manually-induced vision tend to indicate, I’m worried again about what’s to come next.

Hopefully I’m wrong, and we’ll find out soon enough I guess. Next episode has been officially confirmed to air on Tuesday, December 30th at 10.00 on ABC. Make sure to make a note or something, because if there won’t be a lot of new shows on during the last days of 2008, there will be a new Eli Stone !


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/19/2008 2:11 PM

Eli Stone: Owner of a Lonely Heart (Episode 208)

 People are breaking up this week, it seems. After twenty years of marriage, Jordan and Ellen are officially breaking ties, and Taylor's manipulated her dad into letting her represent him. Ellen wants more than Jordan can afford, given the sheer amount of money the new firm is costing him, but she stands firm. When Matt advises Taylor to try to talk to her stepmom as a friend--given how cordial, if not super-close, their relationship has always been--and try to reason with her. Taylor reminds him that Ellen's not exactly her mom, and Matt reminds her that said mom left her high and dry at the age of fourteen. Taylor relents and meets with Ellen, trying to persuade her. But Ellen says she's protecting herself and preventing Jordan from pulling the same crap he pulled with Taylor's mother when he left her for Ellen. Taylor: "Whu?"

When he divorced Taylor's mom, Jordan hid a lot of his wealth in off-shore accounts and made it impossible for her to get any sizeable amount of support. He also sued for full custody of their daughter, given that his soon to be ex wasn't financially capable of supporting her. Taylor, about to be a mom herself, is wrecked, trying to fathom that the dad who is, for all intents and purposes, her best friend, drove her mother away. She talks to his old divorce lawyer to confirm it, and when she confronts Jordan, she tells him that severing ties with her mom the way she did has affected every part of her adult life. This is a betrayal to big to wrap up neatly in one week.

Meanwhile, Eli and Keith are trying their big case, which involves another loyal daughter and the burden of her father's legacy. After his first overnight with Ashley, Eli has a vision of someone named Genny North winning the 2049 Nobel Peace price for her work on cold fusion, presented to her by one Irving Wallender. Eli tracks Genny down just as she's being arrested for alleged terrorist activities. She's a college drop out who's been working at a home improvement store called the Workbench, where she purchased tons of items with small radioactive parts that she then dismantled. She also has a notebook full of complicated, cryptic math. The government thinks she's building "nucular" bombs, and Genny says she's just doing theoretical work right now on the possibility of cold fusion. She's also virulently anti-establishment: when she was a kid, her father invented an automobile engine that could get 59 miles of gas to the gallon, but big oil killed it. She didn't want anything like that to happen to her own attempts to find clean energy, so she kept it under wraps.

The judge pulls counsel out of the courtroom. Clearly, he says, Genny was trying to do something other than build a bomb, but her use of materials is still illegal. He tasks Eli with finding a solution: he doesn't want to be the judge to put the next Einsten in prison, but Genny is technically guilty of a crime that could garner the maximum penalty of 25 years in jail. It's up to Eli to figure his way out of the pickle. He's still working on it when Keith tells him that, according to Irving Wallender, the leading authority on cold fusion, it's more than the 40 years off Eli saw in his vision. Eli remembers the name, and he sends Genny's notebook to Wallender, the man who will give her the Nobel Peace prize in the possible future. Wallender gets the AUSA to drop the charges if Genny will come work with him at Los Alamos. Genny absolutely does not want to work for the Man. Eli gives her a beautiful speech about having a gift. "A gift is something that is given, you don't own it. The world does. The world is asking you to use it, and you don't get to say no. No matter how much you might want to," he tells her.

This comes on the heels of getting dumped by Ashley, who is in no way looking for something serious, which is what she gets when Eli tells her, on their fourth date, about his visions, and how God directs him to the right cases. Maggie tries to warn him that Ashely's not really equipped for that, since her attention span is rather short, but Eli's riding the high of having had a really good, normal dating experience. No one's suprised when Ashley bolts, especially when she stands up a dinner engagement Eli's made with Beth and Nate. Beth assures Eli that he's a catch. He also finds out that his bro and deflowerer are eloping to Las Vegas shortly, with Eli coming along as best man. Eli goes to chen and tells his sad story, which is mostly that, as a man with a higher calling, he's very lonely. (He is also well and truly blind to the ways Maggie Dekker would fall all over herself if he wanted to be more than friends again.) He wants Chen to perform the Dark Truth on him again. He wants to know there's something in the future for him, that happiness is a possibility and that he won't be alone forever. Chen's like, dude, that is dangerous crap for a man with a deathly aneurysm in his brain, for one, and for two, it's flat out scary. You don't get to choose the future you see, either, so you  might not like it. But as it turns out, chen's old classmate, Dr. Lee (JULIE COOPER I STILL MISS YOU), has opened up a practice not far away. Given a little monetary greasing, she agrees to perform the Dark Truth for Eli, after warning him about its dangers. And with some needles ranging redly in his forest of chest hair, Eli falls into a vision of Nate and Beth in Las Vegas, in which Beth, distraught, tells Nate that she's sorry, but she can't marry him.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/21/2008 2:31 PM

Eli Stone

Two Ministers - Airing December 30  (we hope)
Nathan bumps Eli up from best man to minister. When Eli’s latest vision has him questioning Nathan’s fiancee’s devotion, he is restless to learn Nate’s fate and turns to a new acupuncturist willing to perform the dangerous “Dark Truth�?method that will help him see the future. Meanwhile, Keith and Eli defend a minister against discrimination, and Taylor and Matt learn there may be some complications with their unborn child.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/21/2008 2:55 PM

Science and Eli unite

ELI STONE: 2.08 “Owner of a Lonely Heart�?/STRONG>

I love me some nerdiness. Especially when it goes hand in hand with one of my favorite shows.

This week’s Eli Stoneshowed us a future Nobel Prize winner who is basically Unibomber-esque. And in case you’re wondering, no, that wasn’t Amber Tamblyn. Instead, it was Danielle Panabaker. Who? Well, for those of you who didn’t watch Disney Channel, oh, five years ago (or more), she was one who got her start on Disney’s original movie Stuck in the Suburbs. Anyway�?/P>

I enjoyed watching her on Eli, despite the DC roots. I think she played the rebellious, bitter genius well, despite the fact that sometimes that type of character can come across as a cliche. I love incorporating the idea of science and invention into shows, too. It makes the viewers even wonder where we can go in science: What’s the realm of disbelief and what belongs in possibility?

Larger questions aside, this episode just made me lament the fact that the show is being cancelled. For a pretty regular episode, it really gave us some deep background into characters. Jordan’s marriage is imploding–divorce proceedings came and went–and now Taylor is finding out some skeletons in Jordan’s closet about her mother. Taylor’s mother has never been anyone we’ve even considered in this show so far, so it was a surprise to see some development and realizations. Or even to discover what her absentee mother meant to Taylor–she who has a more protected heart. I guess being a to-be mom brings out some of this (the baby being another thing we won’t see develop further after cancellation).

Then there’s Dr. Chen, who we’ve discovered is having a hard time with his business (who isn’t nowadays?). Even Eli is turning to other people when Chen won’t grant his wish of the Dark Truth. So we’re seeing some conflict with Chen as Eli still struggles with his future and his visions. This is actually becoming a common theme for this season–more so than the understanding of season one–and one that won’t get fully developed either.

Meanwhile, with the Dark Truth, we see more of Nate. I love Nate, and honestly, since the premiere of this season, I love him more and more. He’s so supportive and smiles so much more. So to see that he might be broken-hearted in an upcoming episode is terrible. I want him to have a happy ending. Can we fit that in before cancellation?

Clearly, cancellation is an error. We need more time. More time with these characters and to make Eli happy. How can he “Live Brave�?with so little time? If it’s not an aneurysm, it’s ABC.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/31/2008 3:12 PM
Oh Eli, from what you once were to this abortion that the Powers that be at ABC retooled you to become..
I miss My ELI....
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Eli Stone: Two Ministers

(S02E09) Well, this was obviously the last episode of 2008 for Eli Stone, and it might also be the last one in a while/altogether, since while more episodes have been produced, ABC has yet to announce any dates for the remaining episodes. Hopefully they will air those episodes, but for now we don’t know when, or even if, they will do so. I sure hope they will, though.

As for this episode, it’s definitely not the one you want to end the show with. A few reasons fore that, the main one being that this can’t be how Eli is last remembered by its fans, we cannot have as memory of the last time we saw him what we got to see during this episode. Because of what happened and the way things “ended�?of course, but also because I don’t think this was a very good episode!

Maybe it is me losing faith, but it seems (to me) that this second season hasn’t been as good as the first one, and this season is all about losing faith apparently. But first, to get it out of the way, Matt & Taylor. Listen, it possible I’m in the minority on this one, but I didn’t see any point for this whole thing. It seems the only reason for this (fake) drama was only because they are on the payroll, they are part of the cast of the show, and so needs to be given something to do.

Other than that, it had absolutely nothing to do with Eli Stone. It’s not about how they know this guy with a brain aneurysm who has visions and turned prophet, at all, Hell it’s even not about them being lawyers. Bo-ring. I couldn’t care less about any of this, and I’d much rather have had Jordan involved, though preferably working on a case rather than worrying about his daughter’s pregnancy, or even Maggie �?because then at least - I assume/hope - it would have felt like Eli Stone, the show I once loved, at least a little.

It used to be a great show about a “prophet�?who could see the future and save or help people thanks to his direct connection with God, no less! That’s what it was about, but now�?I don’t know. Sure there was a new case this week, and it dealt about faith and acceptance and all of that, but it felt more like an excuse. Just like in medical drama you often see a patient whose sole purpose is how his story/sickness somehow relates to the life of one of the doctor treating him, this one case was about how it reflected on Eli’s personal matter.

And Eli, he isn’t not having visions anymore. No, instead he goes for the “magic pin�?- or the “dark truth�?as they call it - and he gets one, on-demand. It used to make sense, that he constantly had those visions about the case he worked on, it was from his aneurysm, from a “higher power.�?But now, one little pin and of course he not only gets a vision, but not one about his at the coffee machine, or the case he’s working on about one of God’s people, or a distant future, no, of course he gets a vision but the one he wants to get, the one about his brother and his upcoming wedding.

I don’t recognize the show anymore. And it even seems off, that Eli first accepts to get the aneurysm back and be “God’s tool�?only to do everything against it : he refuses his visions, he goes against them and does the opposite of what he’s told, he ignores them, or he tries to make them happen when they don’t. He’s saying yes, only to do everything in his power not to accept what he just agreed upon.

Which is why, when his nose started to bleed at the end, my first guess - and I realize it won’t be it because it’d be pretty stupid - was that we were going at it again, that because of it, of his behavior, Eli was having the aneurysm taken back again, and it’d be given back to his brother. I felt that, because that is how I felt about the show : it goes in circle.

I used to praise how there was a constant evolution on this show, but lately I feel like it’s going nowhere, like neither the show nor Eli knows what they want to do or where to bring us, and nothing really happens. I’m having a hard time recognizing the show, and even if the season is about Eli having a hard time accepting his calling and dealing with it, it’s not done in a manner that is either interesting or even making sense at times.

I feel like I did two episodes back, and I don’t like it. All things considered I (almost) wish last weeks episode had been the last one of 2008, because it was much better. Eli had visions again - or at least one - and was working on a case to help people and make the world a better place, even a little. It was again Eli being the prophet his aneurysm made him, it was again the show I loved last season, and I loved the character of Jenny, which was fun and brought up some (much needed, or at least much appreciated) humor into the show.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/31/2008 3:17 PM
 
 

'Eli Stone': Fate can be changed, except when it can't

 The last time we saw Eli Stone, our lawyer/prophet was working his way through a breakup with an heiress and had a difficult vision about his brother's wedding. Now, as a newlywed myself, I can appreciate that there are often difficulties on the road to matrimony. But they're usually of the "our caterer didn't show up" variety, rather than a Dark Truth vision of the wedding being called off. But to each their own.

Spoilers -- and fate -- ahead...

Nate, Beth, and Eli: Eli's really disturbed by the vision he had via Dr. Lee's Dark Truth about Beth leaving Nate at the altar -- and rightfully so. He wants to protect Nate from getting his heart broken. So even as he agrees to be promoted from best man to officiant, he's on the lookout, asking questions, watching Nate's reactions, looking for clues. And when he mentions the vision to Patti, whom he's tasked with making sure he officially becomes an officiant, she points out that he doesn't have the best track record when interpreting his own visions. Maybe it's something else, she says. And of course, Eli can't talk to Nate about it.

 But with all the probing questions (and in fairness, they're about as subtle as a Mack truck), Nate's onto Eli. Have you had a vision, he asks -- but Eli denies it. "Nobody wants your wedding to go well more than I do -- believe me," Eli tells him. Nate asks Dr. Chen if he knows what's going on, or if he can check their dad's journal for some clues about the wedding. But Chen waves him off, telling him to go get married and not worry about Eli. Meanwhile, Eli takes the same watchful approach with Beth, listening to her describe her first date with Nate and watching her play the piano and sing a version of Billy Joel's "This Night" that was so absolutely gorgeous it made me want to revisit that album. But when it's over, she looks a little stricken. And of course, you're thinking what I'm thinking. Or, more to the point, what Beth's thinking.

 It takes Eli just a little bit longer, though, and he goes back to Dr. Lee for another round of Dark Truth to get a better look at the future. And sees himself and Beth kissing and being caught by Nate, and Beth calling off the wedding. Dr. Lee stops the vision because Eli's convulsions were becoming too severe, and a concerned Dr. Chen goe to see him as well. You're stepping off the path, Eli, and you know that's fundamentally wrong, Chen tells him. Don't go to the wedding, change things if you can, but what you're doing isn't right.

But Eli keeps the faith that maybe he can do something about it, and goes with Nate and Beth to Las Vegas -- the Bellagio, no less -- for the wedding. It's another lovely moment between the brothers as Nate thanks Eli for being his best friend. Then Eli goes back upstairs to get the rings, and all hell breaks loose. Beth's there, looking at the rings and tearing up. I don't think I can do this, she tells Eli. The problem: she loves Nate, but she has feelings for Eli too, and she can't get married without knowing if Eli shares her feelings. He doesn't, he assures her, and goes to get Nate -- who walks in. I'm sorry, but I can't marry you, she tells Nate. Bless him, Eli made sure that the kissing from his vision didn't happen -- but that doesn't mean he could control how Beth feels.

In the end, Eli goes to see a livid Nate, who won't return his phone calls and doesn't want to see him. Nate blames Eli for not telling him about the vision, not believing his brother's desire to protect him. Before you started protecting me, I had a job, a career, a woman who loved me, he tells Eli. Now he has nothing. You chose to have the aneurysm back so that I could have a normal life, Nate says. If I had the aneurysm, at least I'd have your gift. Now I'm just as alone as you are. Everything I care about you're taking away from me -- you're worse than Dad, Nate exclaims. Ouch. That last bit really gets to Eli, and he begins to fire back when the nosebleed starts and things get blurry.

A change of circumstance: The minister at Keith's church comes to him for help with a wrongful termination lawsuit. The minister -- formerly Michelle, now Michael -- had a sex change, and was dismissed before he had a chance to talk to the congregation about his decision, his surgery and the process of becoming a man. And this is a pastor who built this church, taking it from 50 members to 1,000. Keith immediately takes the case to Eli. He's clearly uncomfortable, but he's also right that it's exactly the kind of case that's Eli's specialty.   

But Eli's not buying Keith's attempt to distance himself, and pulls him back in. The church is arguing that Michael was fired not because of the sex change, but because of a clause in the contract allowing for a change in circumstance. For two years before the surgery, Michelle lived as Michael outside the church, but didn't disclose it to the congregation. We don't want a liar guiding our spiritual lives, the church administrator says.

 Keith goes to see Rev. Michael at the community center where he's conducting a Bible study for a group of transgendered men and women. His point is a passage that reads that everyone is one in Christ -- not men, not women. Despite our challenges in offering forgiveness or understanding why other people do what they do, it's an affirmation of spiritual equality for each of us. Which makes Keith get it: equal access to God.

Keith ends up questioning Rev. Michael on the stand, getting him to tell the story of how he was fired without the opportunity to address the congregation. So he delivers his sermon from the witness box. He is the same person he was when he was Michelle. It's just that in this body his spirit is free to be closer to what God intended him to be -- and that makes him a better minister. He is a prodigal son, seeking understanding and acceptance. Now he knows who he is, and the congregants' response will tell him who they are.

The jury ends up ruling in favor of Rev. Michael, and awarding a total of about $175,000. But Keith gets him what he really wants -- the opportunity to deliver his sermon in church. Very few people showed up, and the minister is discouraged. But Keith encourages him, saying that they'll come around -- he did.

The wee one:
Matt and Taylor are in some ways getting closer as a couple as her pregnancy progresses. He buys a very cute tiny pair of hockey skates on eBay as she focuses on the tests she's about to have done. The doctor finds  that Taylor's protein levels are higher than they should be, possibly indicating a chromosomal problem. Additional testing will be needed to be sure.

 Which touches off a very difficult conversation between two people who never thought they'd be serious. Taylor is clearly troubled by the prospect of the tests, and about making a decision whether to continue the pregnancy based on their results. Matt's shocked that she'd even consider such a thing. Regardless of your feelings on the issue, you have to cut Taylor at least a little bit of slack for how she's trying to cope with the unknown.

Patti gives her a little help. She runs into Taylor in the ladies' room, and even though they've never been exactly close, Taylor explains what's going on. And she's worried that by putting herself first in this scenario, she's a bad mother. But Patti reassures her -- that's what you should be doing, she says. You've got to do what's good for you, or you're no good to anybody.

The point of all this poignancy is that Taylor and Matt aren't talking. They're trying to face this like a couple, but they're really not acting like one, and at its crux, that's the problem. There will be a mission decisions to make, and a million fights, Taylor tells Matt. But they need to keep talking, even if they're screaming at one another. The call comes -- the baby's fine.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 12/31/2008 10:49 PM

With only a few more episodes left, Eli Stone is nearing it’s end. It’s too bad that the show has had some it’s worst episodes lately. Hopefully the show can recoup in the last couple of episodes and give all of us Eli Stone fans some good closure to a show that was cut short way to early. So let’s get into last night’s episode, which could be the last Eli Stone episode to ever air on television.

As I already mentioned, Eli Stone has kind of been in a funk the last couple of episodes. The episodes have been worth watching, but the show just hasn’t been the same. I don’t know if it is the cases or whether the show appears to be drifting further and further away from the perfect future, but something has been missing the last couple of episodes. Hopefully what is missing will be discovered in the last couple of episodes so the show can end on a satisfying series finale.

Onto the episode itself. We missed a couple characters this episode (which is a shame since Maggie and Jordan are two of the best characters on the show). Instead this week focussed mostly on the rest of the cast.

Taylor and Matt dealt with the possibility of their baby facing health concerns. It turns out their is nothing wrong with the baby. I have never really minded Taylor or Matt but I really didn’t care too much for this storyline. I thought it was pretty boring and I think it could have been cut out.

Meanwhile at the office Keith and Eli defend a minister that was fired from his job after he had a sex change. Eli and Keith eventually end up winning the case allowing the minister to return to his position. While the case was solid, it just was missing something that other Eli cases have had in the past. As I mentioned earlier, I have no idea what that is. Maybe it’s because the case really didn’t have a lot to do with making the future a better place. What I liked about the first season was that it was so positive and almost everyone Eli helped were part of a bigger plan in order to make the world a better place. There was also the wacky visions that have suddenly disappeared this season.

Finally we delved into Eli’s personal life some more as he tried to stop Beth from dumping Nate. Eli tries everything he can to stop it from happening but it still happens since Beth can’t marry Nate when she still has feelings for Eli. I guess Eli should realize that no matter how hard he tries he can’t always change the future. Just as Eli is about to get Nate to forgive him fore everything that happens, Eli starts bleeding from the nose and we are left with that cliffhanger. I don’t know what the nosebleed (boy have their been a lot of nosebleeds this season) is supposed to represent but I am intrigued. It’s too bad that we will probably be waiting quite a while to find out since ABC has still not announced what they are going to do with the final episodes. At this point ABC has pretty much three choices (two which I really don’t like). ABC can put the episodes online, air the rest of the episodes in the summer, or could make us wait till Eli Stone is released on dvd. I would prefer that ABC is nice enough to the fans that they just put the rest of the episodes online. Why make the fans wait so long to see the final episodes. Just let us enjoy the final episodes now instead of making us wait such a long time.

Quotes:

Nathan (about Eli): “It makes me think you’re a dork.�?/P>

Eli (to Patti): “I need you to make me a minister.�?/P>

Eli: “I got promoted to pastor, remember?�?/P>

So what are your thoughts on what is facing Eli Stone fans? Are you like me and just want ABC to put the episodes up online instead of making fans wait? Are you ok with last night’s episode possibly being the last Eli Stone episode ever to air?


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 1/2/2009 4:04 PM

Eli Stone: Two Ministers (Episode 209)

Way to leave us hanging, Berlanti.

Jordan's absent this week because Taylor's still not talking to him, but she could probably use some good daddy shoulder-leaning this week. At a routine appointment, Matt and Taylor learn that Taylor's protein levels are elevated, which means that there may be something going on with the baby to concern them. She mentions a potential chromosomal problem, and Matt immediately wonders if she means their baby has Downs Syndrome. She assures them there's no reason to jump to any conclusions or worry prematurely, because more tests are needed before they can know anything else; tests like the ones they ran on Taylor often return false positives, so this may all be a false alarm.

But the potential that her child might have something wrong developmentally gives Taylor pause--she tells Matt she's less worried about the test itself than the decisions that come afterward. Matt's surprised and saddened that Taylor would consider (though it's never said in these words) terminating her pregnancy if something were wrong with the baby. It sends her on a guilt spiral ending in the ladies' room, where she tells Patti that the entier time she worried about whether or not Matt would be a good father, she never worried about whether or not she would be a good mother. Patti tells her that by considering herself first, Taylor's doing the responsible thing for her child. If she doesn't do what's best for herself, she can't do what's best for anyone else. Taylor hopes Patti's right, and Patti asks her if she's ever been wrong before.

Taylor has the next series of tests without telling Matt, and she's waiting for the results when he finds her. They apologize to each other, and Taylor says that no matter how the phone call goes, she knows that they have to keep talking to each other, which means more fights, but the only way they have a shot as parents is communication. Matt thinks fighting is good if it means make up sex. Taylor's like, now, really, we're going to joke about that, and Matt's like, hey, I am consistent, baby. It's a good lesson they've learned about learning and sharing and hugging and growing, but in the end, Taylor's doctor calls to say that their baby is perfectly fine and healthy.

Keith is struggling with personal prejudice this week when his former minister seeks him out to represent him in a wrongful termination suit. When Keith last went to church, his minister, Michael, was still Michelle. Michael was fired because of his gender reassignment; his parish claims that their contract was with Michelle, not Michael, and that they are no longer required to honor a contract Michael's made void. Michael only wants a chance to return to his pulpit and plead his case with his parishoners. Keith has a hard time with the case, since he feels that Michael really did break faith with his followers by not being up front with them about who he was and what he needed, and no matter what he has to say, he's betrayed a trust. Eli first chairs for him, despite his other distractions (see below) and tries to play it as any other wrongful termination suit. But it's Keith who gets more involved, going to a Bible study group for transgendered people that Keith leads. They're struggling with acceptance, faith, and trust. Keith, affected by the number of people all struggling with the same issues as Michael, puts his minister on the stand to give the sermon he'd meant to before he was fired, his first after his reassignment surgery. He preaches that in embracing the body that he knows is really his, he's finally able to fully answer Christ's question to Peter, when Peter asks who he is: "Who do you say I am? Who are you?" He knows who he is, and his congregants' answer to the same question would show him who they were. He was looking for acceptance and got none. Keith secures him a settlement of $50K, but he forfeits it for the chance to preach to his congregation again, to tell them what we got to hear on the stand. No one comes, but Keith assures Michael they'll come around the way that he did.

Eli's still dabbling in the Dark Truth, despite the danger, and his visions are getting more dire, since now instead of just calling off the wedding with Nate, Beth's kissing Eli. And the whole process is a) pissing Chen off and b) giving Eli convulsions when he's under the needle. Nate's antsy that Eli's with him constantly and taking his temperature about the wedding while avoiding Beth. They've asked Eli to be the officiant, and he's joyful at the prospect even as he's freaking out about how to prevent Beth from breaking Nate's heart the way he's seen her do in his visions. With all Eli's pestering, Nate tweaks to the reason and asks if Eli's had a vision, but Eli lies that he just wants everything to be perfect, since Nate gets the normal life and the good ending for both of them, what with the aneurysm he's carrying. Nate calls Chen and asks if there was anything in their father's notebook, which sends Chen to Eli, suspicious. Chen adamantly tells Eli not to go to Vegas; he's not had any visions since he's had Lee do the Dark Truth on him, and Chen thinks it's a sign that Eli's straying from the path.

And if that's not enough, Beth's acting weird. Laura Benanti gets the chance to show off her lovely pipes, singing a song "for Ben" that's basically, we're better off as friends and I don't want to lead you on, so this is a bad idea. When Beth comes to see Eli on the pretense of showing him Nate's gift, a killer watch, Eli asks if there's any reason she might be thinking of calling off the wedding. She asks why he'd even ask, and he tells her to forget it. But when they inevitably end up alone together in Nate's hotel room in Vegas, despite Eli's machinations to avoid it and after a very heart-felt speech from Nate about how Eli's his best friend and so important in his life, Beth's waffling. She doesn't want to hurt Nate, but she has feelings for Eli. He tells her to marry Nate. She can't, she says, if she has feelings for Eli, and especially if he has feelings for her. Eli avoids the second Dark Truth by flatly telling Beth he doesn't, but the damage is done, because Nate's arrived to hear the whole thing. Beth tells Nate she can't marry him.

Eli goes to Chen for advice, since Nate won't talk to him. Chen's like, just go and talk and keep going and talking until he listens to you, and stop messing with things you shouldn't. The Dark Truth is dangerous for Eli because of his aneurysm, for one, and for another, it's impeding him from fulfilling his calling by preventing other visions from coming. God doesn't like to be solicited for views of the future, it seems: s/he wants to give on her/his schedule as always, and Eli needs to accept that. So Eli goes to Nate's to apologize. Nate says Eli could have avoided the whole thing if he had been honest about his vision, if he'd told Nate the truth instead of trying to protect him. And, Nate yells, the only reason he's "protecting" his brother is because he's terrified of Nate getting married and leaving him alone, which wasn't the deal. The deal was Eli would be the prophet, Nate the normal one who got the girl. Eli protests that he didn't choose this, but Nate spits (literally) that he did: when Eli asked for the aneurysm back, he chose it. If he hadn't taken it back, at least Nate would have a gift to make him special. But now Nate's lost everything: his job, his career, his future with Beth. Eli says he's never wanted that; he's never wanted Nate to be alone. Too bad, Nate says. Everything he cares about, Eli's taken from him. Eli's worse than their dad. Eli throws something at Nate to get his attention, pointing at him as he hisses, "You don't say that." But what's given Nate a terrified look in his eyes is not Eli or his begging, the way he's asking for forgiveness and telling Nate he's the most important thing in his life. It's the fact that Eli's bleeding dark, scary blood from his nose. Everything blurs as Nate rushes to call the hospital.


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From: MSN NicknameRichardakatickSent: 1/2/2009 4:29 PM

(Season 2, Episode 9 - “Two Ministers�?

Oh, it was a banner week for our Eli. A banner week indeed. On the plus side, he did get to help a transgender minister try and get his flock back. That was the official “case of the week.�?And while it was good, and gave us some more depth into the great evolving character of Keith Bennett, it was the ongoing drama between all the other characters that really drove the story.

It is starting to feel like we’re going to get some satisfying resolution to all these plotlines, as promised. And with each passing episode it’s getting more and more disappointing to think that it’s all coming to an end so soon. They’re all getting so well-rounded and interesting. I even like Taylor again. But no Jordan at all tonight rings up a big New Year’s “Boo!�?from me.

Let’s take a look at those relationships Eli screwed up tonight, eh?

Eli and Ashley
It was done almost immediately. I have to wonder if the decision to truncate a possible romance for Eli so hastily was a part of the original plan, or some of the tweaking done when they realized they were working on a deadline. Granted, her reaction to finding out he had visions was understandable, but it was still a bit abrupt. It’s too bad because Ashley was an interesting character, and had the obvious connection of being Maggie’s client over at Posner-Klein.

That’s one relationship, actually, that hasn’t really been touched on as we’re starting to wind things down: Eli and Maggie. We know per a vision that at least at one point the two were fated to be together. We don’t know if that’s still the case or not. After all, Eli’s visions have been known to change (we’ll get to that more later). I’m guessing they’re saving this one for the finale.

Eli and Dr. Chen
I think the moral of the story for Eli here is that Eli needs to stop getting off the damned path. For whatever reason, Dr. Chen is his spiritual guide on this journey and you’d think by now he’d get that. Yes he has human emotions and desires, but come on, dude. You had to know that getting selfish was never going to work out well for you. He and Dr. Chen will bounce through this and continue being friends, but you have to feel for the good doctor feeling like he was betrayed in a way.

Nate and Beth
This one I don’t think he was going to be able to save no matter what he did, but by going to Dr. Lee and risking his life on a dangerous procedure for selfish reasons, he did make the whole situation a lot more awkward than it needed to be. If he hadn’t gone to Lee and seen the future on this one then he could have been just as oblivious as Nate was which would have helped tremendously with�?/P>

Nate and Eli
Brothers fight. I have one so I know this from first-hand experience. And then they make up. Nate blamed Eli for withholding his vision about the wedding (which is valid) but then proceeded to blame Eli for all that has gone wrong in his life (which is questionable), following it all up by saying Eli was worse than their father (which is just downright mean). Sure, in context they now understand their father better now, but he was still shit then.

Elsewhere on Eli Stone
You’d think it was Eli’s show the way he keeps hogging the limelight. Oh �?yeah. Keith kind of took a prominent role in the case of the transgender minister, which just happened to be his minister. While watching the episode, I kept trying to figure out if they’d cast a man, woman or transgender for the role.

As it turns out, the internets reveals that Dallas Malloy (who many of you will slam me for not remembering from Jerry Maguire) played this role, and IMDb indicates that it may be her first acting role playing someone other than herself, with Maguire being her only other role period. She did a solid job of playing a man who used to be a woman. I won’t say her acting was as impressive, though she got the job done. I just didn’t get the charisma that most ministers possess from her.

The Dowd and Taylor had a baby scare, which only served to reiterate that while Matt has turned into a big softy over this baby, Taylor is still reserving herself. At least I’m pretty sure that she was leaving the option of abortion on the table when the possibility arose that their baby might have Down’s Syndrome, or some similar situation. Maybe this was another case of a quick storyline change to keep things as clean as possible before we say goodbye.

Bring back Jordan! And I’m not completely satisfied with the way things were left with Angela. She and Keith did have some sort of connection and I’d like to think that he’s there in some capacity helping her. He’s a hard dude, but I think he still cares about her. Maybe they’ll get to that, too.


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