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From: MSN NicknameCaringTHELMAMARIE  in response to Message 1Sent: 5/11/2008 8:14 AM
From: <NOBR>NineMSN NicknameCaringTHELMAMARIE</NOBR> Sent: 11/05/2008 2:52 PM
 
Some of it is,some are being delivered from evil spirits, ever thought of that?
Since when does God and Satan work together?  Does this even sound right to you Marie?I never said they work together sis,just when God shows up the devil in sheeps clothing is there amoungst it all doing his thing.
 
Impartation. From man to man or woman?  Hello?God through Man/woman
The only example in the Bible I can even think of
is in the Old Testament.
 
Young men whistling over and over and holding their heads and
claiming that they "feel the Holy Spirit about to split them in two";  Never!maybe
Why would you say maybe to this one? Give me examples in the Bible for this one.Ok, I will admit there is no maybe there
 
I know that people are filled with joy and rejoicing and dancing in the Holy Spirit, you are still just hunting and pecking on this one.How am I hunting and pecking sis? I do not understand, I have been filled with the joy of the Lord which is my strength. Marie I have the Holy Spirit, and I have had a lot of things happen when the Holy Spirit hits me in Church or at home just praising the Lord. But Sis we are not to go on our feelings or experiences, but on the Word of God.sometimes we need our experiances to remind us of just who and what the Holy Ghost is all about.I do not usually tell many people what HE has done for me sis
 
 But Sis you have to admit that the Lord and Satan does not work together like this.Like I said above,I never said they work "together" God's Word says in James 3:11& 12 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Maybe you should finish the rest of the chapter there.
 
being delivered from evil spirit or yes a bad spirit manifesting, I tend to believe a bad spirit manifesting with this one.
-Women just gyrating and pulsating like they're being ravaged from
behind from some unseen force. Sure!ever see women dance?????
Yes I have seen them dance under the Spirit before and it was nothing like this, sorry.  Maybe in a strip joint you would see that.sis I have watched these meetings and there has been NO gyrating and pulsating like what is described above, NONE
 
-People being "slain in the spirit"... just falling down and being
unable to move (like something's holding them down)..." Holy Ghost holding them down, this has happened to colin and myself as well as Pam and Ross and many others. So back on experiences again or you? Well, this has happened to me also, but wouldn't try and convince other people by my experiences at all. I only said that to show you and others that is does happen nothing more
 
If God's Word doesn't convince some one then evil fire may convince them that they are doing right. (The Bible also says that in the last days people will call right-wrong and wrong-right. does it not?)Yes it does
 
Paul gave his testimony but he also taught the Word of God, did he not? Testimony is one thing, but experiences continually without the Word will not win no one to the Lord God Almighty.Then how come many are saved at these meetings and sis these are HEALING meetings. 
"My difficulty with Todd Bentley's ministry is not whether he has
recently covered himself with tattoos or pierced himself silly, but
the SOURCE of his power. He keeps changing his position on this.
Sometimes he says it's the Holy Spirit and a lot of the time it's his
angels… ?????I do agree with this point, OK now we are getting some where aren't we?
 
Marie did you ever wonder why none of these people who claim healings bring back doctor's reports backing up what they say? They have caught certain people being paid off by so called ministers to act like they are cripple and come to a meeting in a wheel chair, so they would get credit of laying hands on them and the Lord healing them through them, this is a known fact.Prove that to me sis and I will then believe you
 
"People can be healed in spiritualist churches. I have witnessed,
close-up, first hand, people being instantly healed by mediums
and faith healers. I have also seen people healed by the power of
the Holy Spirit. To begin with there is no discernible difference.
However the counterfeit healings soon begin to either go wrong or
something far worse comes upon the person. agreed
Good glad you do! be stupid if I didn't
 
"When God heals someone - He adds 'no sorrow.' The crying is healing tears from many past hurts that have been festering away inside a person, Happened to me many times
Don't think he meant crying here, he was talking about the healings going wrong and people even dying from them..That kind of sorrow, Marie.
MATTHEW 13:39-43 Marie I think this is after the tribulation that this happens Sister, is it not?All I know is Colin got that scripture as I was answering your first post
 
Marie it is not a matter of letting God out of a box.  It is a matter of seeing if a ministry lines up with the Word or not, and if it doesn't and the devil is manifesting his angels as angels of light and you don't have enough of the Word to help you discern exactly what is going on then that is where people are falling for it all. Satan does according to the Bible have wolves in sheep's clothing who will try to deceive the very elect if possible.  And Sister because there has not been a great move of the Holy Spirit for a long time, Jesus said, This generation will seek for signs and wonders and that Satan will deliver exactly that to gain more on his side, read the Word it is in there, if you don't believe me.  I know this sis but this is where diserment comes in
 
Sure people are hungry for a touch of the Holy Spirit any more and that is why there will be a great falling away Sister, for people will be living on experiences and signs and wonders, but not by faith. Read the Word.
 
Well if the Word deceives me then I really don't think there is hope for anyone Marie, do you, for we all are suppose to be following the Word of God, or we not?  Not some man who is trying to make a name for himself, on his experiences alone.I do not think Todd Bently is trying to make a name for himself, I personally do not watch the meetings for him but to see what Jesus is doing with HIS flock
Well I would be careful about thanking Jesus for this just yet Marie.I will continue to thank Jesus for all healings sis
 
How can you agree and disagree with someone at the same time? When it comes to the very Word of God.
 
Hugs, Delores