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From: MSN Nicknamelynx_eight  (Original Message)Sent: 10/6/2008 2:17 PM

I don't know why I've put this off so long because I think I've always known my son had ODD.  Now I realize that I can't ignore it any longer. We need help, I'm going to make an appt with his Psychologist but in the mean time I'd like your opinions on these different methods of medications.

Thanks Kristin

Medical Treatment



There have been some recent studies that have examined the effects of certain medications on Oppositional Defiant Disorder. All the research is preliminary and just suggests that certain treatments may help.

One study examined the use of Ritalin to treat children with both ADHD and ODD. This study found that 90% of the children treated with Ritalin no longer had the ODD by the end of the study. The researchers skewed the results a bit because a number of children were dropped from the study because they wouldn't comply with the treatment regimen. Even if these children are included as treatment failures the study still showed a 75% success rate.

There have been two studies examining the effect of Strattera on children with both ADHD and ODD. One study showed that Strattera helped, one study showed it did not help.

There was a large Canadian study that showed that Risperdal helped with aggressive behavior in children with below normal intelligence. It did not matter if the child had ADHD or not.

There was study showing that 80% of children with explosive behavior improved when given the mood stabilizer, divalproex.

Alternative Medicine Treatment

There have been no extensive studies using alternative medicine. However, an alternative medicine that helps with ADHD should be effective with ODD.
 
There was a pilot study examining the use of Omega-3 oils and vitamin E in ODD children. Both helped the problem behavior to some degree.


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From: MSN NicknameMsCraceySent: 10/6/2008 4:25 PM
We use ritalin and abilify. Abilify is a mood stabilizer.
 
If I were you I would start with Ritalin. It has been used the longest in children and is in and out of their system in a matter of hours.  so if you dont like it then no biggie being weaned off. It really does not help so much with my kids OCD but it does help with reactions and impulive behavior. I am a big believer in it and it has helped both of my boys in school soooooo much.Helps socially too.
 
The only thing I have to worry about is eating. lane is skinny and he does not eat enough (never has) and it does suppress the appetite. We do protein shakes when he needs it.
 
Good Luck
 
Trace

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From: MSN NicknameMsCraceySent: 10/6/2008 6:44 PM
I forgot to say that straterra did nothing for Lane.The mood stabilizer drugs are scary.They have a lot more side effects. We use abilify like I said, but I would use that as a last resort. For really agressive behavior. Lane was biting and threatening me.It has helped tremendously.
 
Trace

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From: MSN NicknameDabzeeSent: 10/9/2008 12:07 PM
ODD??....This has me wondering too..
 
Looking at the symptoms...I wonder if thats what I have?  All those symptoms fit Me to a "T".  And even though Jake isn't verbal...some of them fit him too.  Jake has been having frequent meltdowns, he does get annoyed easily...and he doesn't like being told what to do.  That alot of times sets off his meltdowns.
  Trace...do your boys use both Ritalin and Abilify?  Jake is on Fluoxitine and Abilify.
 
Debz~

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From: MSN NicknameMsCraceySent: 10/9/2008 4:43 PM
Ross takes only ritalin.
 
Lane takes Methadate ( a stimulant like ritalin) and abilify.
 
It helps alot. We have had some problems with Lane crashing in the evenings.
 
I have just started taking celexa for anxiety.This is my first time trying a drug.I was worrying about everything. The boys, my job,especially my health I had become obsessed about my health. I was imagining everything wrong with me....It doesn't take a rocket scienetist to figure out that I am afraid I will die young and not be able to take care of my boys.I can not believe the difference since taking the drug. I have more energy, less muscle fatigue even my arthritis is better.It has made a world of difference for me. I feel like someone has put the lights on around me.The main thing is I can let go of these worries and I am alot less irritable.
 
Trace  

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From: MSN NicknameDabzeeSent: 10/9/2008 5:02 PM
OMG...Trace!  I've been worrying alot like you too.  My worry mode has been full force, lately.  My anxiety has been through the roof.  I also worry about my health...and "what would happen"....if  "something" happened to me.  I was taking xanax...when I "needed it"...But I ran out.  And I stopped taking my anti-depressants.  And we don't have the money right now for me to go to the doc.  I do need to make an appointment in the future though...for my thyroid.  How much does Celexa cost?  Maybe I can throw that out to my doc.  Maybe I need an anti anxiety med...that I take every day. ??  But for now...till we can get some extra money...So I can go to the doc...I'm taking B-vitamins and magnesium, etc...And I'm crossing my fingers.  Maybe I should take some Omega-3..too??
 
Debz~

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From: MSN NicknameMsCraceySent: 10/10/2008 6:29 PM
xanax is addicting.I took that too before yrs ago. I forgot about that but that is situational. Just here and there. Celexa is an anti depressant too. I did not want to take it because I know I do not have depression...but it is used for anxiety too. She originally wanted me to go on lexapro but my insuance would not cover it (that is not an antidepressant I believe) anyway the celexa is working and it costs me $5.00 a month with my insurance. It is really unbelievable. I still worry but I am able to let go of stuff. No more irritable bowl either.
 
The worry and anxiety was getting somuch worse the 2 weeks before my period.Then the 2nd 2 weeks I would feel better.
 
Trace

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From: MSN NicknameDonna_Collins170Sent: 10/12/2008 1:27 PM
My doctor wanted to put me on a nerve medication.. the name I cant remember, but it was one I was on durring my pregnancy with Cj. Then he wanted to put me on Adderal as well as Zoloft.  That was just over a year and a half ago.. but at that time I refused the meds. Adderal being an anti-psychotic and Zoloft being an anti-depressant, I wasnt comfortable about mixing the two drugs.  Not to mention the combined side effects of the the two.  On to of these three drugs, he wanted me to take St. John's Wort to help stabilize my moods.
 
When I refused the meds, he talked me into trying the St. John's Wort.. and while it is herbal.. I took it back then for over three months and had a hard time going without it. As soon as I stopped taking it, my severe mood swings would return and I was a sheer B*tch.  So I started back on them again and gradually took myself off the Wort.  Going from 6 capsules a day down to none.
 
This last round of severe anxiety attacks, I was seriously dreading taking the wort again.. but I had to do something to help calm myself down and get my heart back to a normal rhythm.  This time round I take two capsules a day and it helps to keep me from climbing the walls and it has helped to keep my anxeity in check so that my heart doesnt go nuts in my chest.
 
Since Chuck has been gone, and I've set some goals for myself, my anxiety has calmed down some. It still kicks in every so often.. but not on a daily basis now. My stress levels are now back down to a managable level. I've figured out that I cannot live with a man, nor can I tolerate being isolated. There are things I want and I'm willing to work for it.
 
My goal right now is to buy a home and property for me and my kids.  I'm currently out looking at double wide trailors.. but who knows, come tax return time, I may go with a house and at least an acre of property.  My options are endless and I hope to have my credit established again good enough to be able to get something.
 
Then the next thing I will be working on is getting a new car. Right now I just need something in good shape to be able to take my driver's test in to get my liscense. Then I can see about gettin a new car.
 
Those for the moment is the goals I have set for myself. No man, woman or child is gonna tell me I cant achieve them.
Love, Donna

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