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From: MSN Nicknamechaiyah  (Original Message)Sent: 1/6/2002 11:49 PM
Observe http://neic.usgs.gov from day to day. A pattern of quakes is unmistakable. Two intersecting perfect circles of quakes--intersecting in Indonesia and again in Central America--form the lines that will fracture so the earth's crust can contract as the earth's core cools. At present, fissures from Indonesia to Fiji are running 500-800 km deep, and  I wonder how long those HOLES can hold up the Pacific Ocean ... ?
 
When the oceanic rifts rupture and the crust contracts, all openings for volcanic heat will slam shut and our planet's diameter will shrink significantly. We will be in a new ice age--about 10,000 years long--as before. The Aztecs KNEW. This is why their calendar ends in 2015.
 
What makes perfect commonsense is that a cooling crust will continue to contract along with the cooling core, until this planet is as solid and hard as Mars. Thus, I would conjecture that, in the distant past, Mars was probably porous and had a much larger volume than at present, that it contracted periodically until it reached its current size, ice age-by-ice age, just as this our planet appears to be doing.
 
I infer that the "end of time" is not just a metaphor--rather--that this planet or any planet has periods in which survivability and sustainability are greatly in question.
 


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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 1/7/2002 4:11 AM
Glad you made it, chaiyah.  I don't know how many sites I trust that end in "gov."  But many of the computer models for global warming are now showing that a point will come when the free flow of air and water will be blocked at a certain latitude and the north pole will start to storm and freeze up again, fast and big-time.  That seems to be how we go from global warming (which will cause this in the first place) to another ice age.  That's a factor and there are also the methane rocks below the surface that are cracking and releasing the stuff as more global-warming gas.  It's still an unpredictable system, but the NWO likes to think they now control the weather and to some extent, they do.  When HAARP and her lesser, but sister arrays, were brought up to defense-shield frequencies; there was an earthquake in Seatle the next day.  (Remember back in Feb?)  So they brought her down to manageable levels and fine tuned until the temblors stopped in the Pugeat Sound and now; according to Jerry's last email, it's up for good.  (Or at least, that's what they think......)  Putin has been very patient with this (he knows we have our shield and since it takes care of many multiple missiles, he also knows it is for THEM and not N Korea or Iraq [stupidest excuse for a shield I ever heard of, especially one as dangerous to ALL of us as that tech is]) and the Kursk sinking.  Check out the emails on the docs page.  Sometimes you have to double click.  Thanks for joining.

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From: fenway_12Sent: 1/7/2002 6:59 PM
its a rather grim picture...i see the opposite effect
is the green house and the earth actually heating back .....

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 1/7/2002 9:05 PM
Well, yes; that is very definately what is happening now.  My point is that the greenhouse (trend to warming) will at some point in the closer-than-we-think future, block or stop certain flows of the oceanic "rivers" and the jetstream will become blocked, and the top of the planet will begin to refreeze quickly.    A fictionalized explanation is given in the book the Coming Superstorm (I think that's the name of it) co-authored by Whitley Striber.  I forgot the name of the other author as I don't own the volume and signed it out of the library.

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From: scarletSent: 1/14/2002 6:59 AM
Fact 'o the matter is, we're heating up. Incredibley enough, the the big cheeses involved with NAFTAhave actually recognized this fact, and published a report on the subject. As of yet , I have been unable to get my sticky little fingers on a copy.While I do beleive that this has the potential to be a step in the right direction, I highly doubt that the Gov'ts will take the necessary steps to avert (real) disaster(percieved impending doom is more fun to conquer).
To stop the unsustainable emmissions and resultant temperature rise the govt's would be required to function as more than a corporate puppet regeime. allthogh there have been laws governing emmissions passed recently, (in an effort to appear to stand behind the speak) there has been little or no action taken against offenders. The rules that govern the corporate citizens need to be more stringent, carry siffer penalties and be enforced.

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 1/14/2002 5:49 PM
The fact of the matter is that those who are the most guilty are the most aware of what they are doing and they think they have a plan to carry them through the worst.  One of the things I came across in one of the books I recommend on the "BOOKS" page is that a plan is being carried out (unlear whether this is still being done) was advised by Edward Teller, to seed the upper atmosphere with aluminum dust for purposes of reflecting some sunlight.  It is also known that aluminum is a factor in many diseases such as Alzeimer's (wonder why it is getting so prevelent{?})  I think this plan was started and abandoned.  Heaven forbid they should stop the cause so that the very wealthy would stop their total control of MONEY; and utilize the many patents they have either destroyed or bought up, for alternative energy!

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 2/4/2002 12:54 AM
Pete, in relation to this thread and HAARP technology, according to the research there is weather control in this equation and Jerry E Smith is working on another volume on HAARP and its properties for such.  I think they are much farther along than is known by even those working on the compartmentalized science.  There are many problems involved with a "chaotic" system; which the climate is, as it involves astronomy, no less.  This and so many other variables are not taken into account.  This is what a chaotic system is:  one in which all variables cannot be accounted for.
I think that those who are planning and have been working for over a century, for world domination and the New World Order think that at the last, when they have the population and other factors under their control, they will supposedly bring the climate to a better range.  Which is a crock.  It simply won't work  They have secretly used the tech on a localized basis, deliberately exascerbating the problems; but they are still missing some pretty important things in their arrogance.

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From: MSN Nickname1WartySent: 9/1/2002 9:10 AM
Acctually the earth is cooling. This has been reported repeatedly and rejected. One of the main people watching and writing on this is Michael S. Coffman. Air flows have shifted, but the actual temperature of the earth has dropped 2 degrees.
 
Saving the earth is not what the NWO has in mind. If you have been following what is going on in Johannasburg you will see that we are fixing to have a world take over. By soft laws concerning everything concerning how many trees may be cut, how much food may be grown and how much water can be used and for what!!
Things are going to get bad. Very bad.
Warty

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 9/1/2002 4:01 PM
Well, according to the earth itself with its melting glaciers and ice chunks the size of states breaking off the shelves of the southern, Antaratic pole, etc, etc, etc.....it's warming.  I'll take the planet's own word for it.  Although some models are showing that the flow of the jet stream could be stifled and change all that within months if the warming continues fast enough.  In other words, we could go right from a warming trend into an ice age.  My own cross sciencing tells me what my body and the thermometer in my area says; and that is that we are having an increased warming that would have been a cooling trend up until the last century when the industrial revolution started taking on speed......
 
The fact that NWO classified science is messing with the weather to create even more havoc doesn't help the situation....but then I agree with your assessment on that, which is that it is NOT intended to help!

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From: blknghtSent: 9/1/2002 11:48 PM
your all wrong..it is a natural effect for the earth to shift and shape..how else was it formed???

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 9/2/2002 10:26 PM
And "human"kind is part of THAT nature, even though it is the child that "Mother" would rather NOT talk about.

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From: KatSent: 9/4/2002 8:34 AM
A lot of theory and modeling, not that we can even do day to day weather.   Even if it is getting warmer so what?  Of you are on abeach you could have a problem, but that fact is life existed in a global warm state before.  I hate winter it can be warmer for me.

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 9/4/2002 5:35 PM
Welcome, kat 
 
Take some time to browse around and take in the information.  Put it together with your own six (not a typo) senses and then form an opinion.  Maybe it won't change and maybe it will.   

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From: MSN NicknameloraxhasthebluesSent: 3/1/2003 5:56 PM
There is ample evidence suggesting that we are in a time of global warming.  10,000 years ago; the place where I sit and type; like much of the world; was covered in a sheet of ice miles thick.  MILES THICK!  Well; most of that ice has since retreated and melted; as the general trend of a heating earth continues.
 
For the first time, scientists believe they have found an instance of
climate change causing a species to alter its genetic makeup -- not
just its behavior.  To date, species changes stemming from climate
change have all been behavioral, such as animals shifting their
migration patterns.  But after studying the DNA and mating habits of
red squirrels in the Yukon for 10 years, scientists at the University
of Alberta, Canada, have found that the squirrels give birth three
weeks earlier in the year, corresponding to the earlier arrival of
spring.  More important, the scientists found that the change is
partially genetic in origin -- that squirrels inclined to breed
earlier in the season benefit from better access to food and
territory, then pass on their early-breeding preferences to the next
generation.

straight to the source:  CBC News, 12 Feb 2003
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/02/12/squirrels_climate030212
 
In 1908, An American chap by the name Arrhenius, proposed that the increased burning of fossil fuels could increase food supply by allowing agriculture to move northwards.
Arrhenius, S. Worlds in the Making. Harper, New York NY, 1908
 
The hype we hear which sounds like "What global warming?", or "the ice age is coming!" is generally generated by those who stand to lose from the coming human-fossil-fuel divorce; and those who have been swept up onto the associated propaganda wagon.  The truth is; those energy companies fear the lawsuits which implicate them of conspiring to accelerate global warming.  Those are possibly the biggest lawsuits that have ever been conceived!
 
I am personally not looking to place the blame here; just waiting to hear the truth, finding the misinformation a bit tough to swallow; would like to see us deal with our situation; instead of taling BS to put it off for anothe 10 years.
 
Of course; its all a big big cirle; so eventually we will enter a period of global cooling and it all starts over again; but a big snowfall and a cold winter does NOT mean a turnaround in global climactic patterns.
 
 
I agree with other members here that there are just too many equations to beat mother nature at her chaotic game of running the earth and its climate.  She is getting hot!  We can huff and puff and HAARP and chemtrail all we like; but mother nature doesnt debate issues; she reacts by instinct.  She is getting hot!  We are an "infectious irritability" on her surface.  Burning up dead dinos like theyre going outta style! And now; as fleas on a cat's back hacking up a furball; its time to hang on tight; because Gaia's clearing out her diesel choked throat!

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From: MSN NicknameLC2019Sent: 8/30/2003 6:22 PM
I have not seen the warming here in Michigan, but climate change? yes the cilmate is doing stranger things than normal.
 
If humans are doing it then 1) is it the Government?  2) the extra gasses? 3) a cosmic cycle?   or some other source, we need to know before action.

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