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New World Order : "North Korean defectors"
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From: Barae  (Original Message)Sent: 5/12/2002 9:04 AM
Hi?
 
Did you see North korean family arrested in front of Japan Embassy in china?
 
The North Korean are three woman. grandmother, middle age woman, and very young child.
 
It's very sad accident. 
 
They want to free.
 
What do you think about??
 
Where  are they going??  come back Nnorth Korea? Or a third country?
 
 
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 5/13/2002 2:09 PM
Can you tell us more about this?

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From: BaraeSent: 5/14/2002 2:10 PM
Dragging Japan and China have exchanged increasingly angry words since the incident, particularly after Japanese television aired dramatic video of police dragging two screaming women and a child from the consulate compound. The incident,which follows a spate of successful bids by North Koreans seeking asylum, highlights China's refusal to recognize as refugees tens of thousands of North Koreans hiding along its border with its long-time communist ally. China views them as illegal immigrants and often sends back those that get caught. This article chosed at CNN.com

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From: peaceSent: 5/18/2002 1:06 AM
As a Chinese civilian,I may have freedom to tell you:
(1) I have seen the true of this case in TV.I don't believe what have you show at here.
    also I am angry for it! I don't think you will say that I have not freedom to be angry?!!
 
Also I have freedom to ask you some question and you have freedom to answer me or not!
(1)Do you think that lady and kid can not be catched when they do any bad thing which
against police???? why? you like to cry for any lady and kid even though they do against
police?lol lol lol ......what is your education background?
(2)You think any people can run into a Japanese consulate in China without any permit and don't show
their profile and the guard can not let them to stop?if they don't stop the police also can not catch them?
(3) if the police free these person,and let them run into the japanese consulate,I believe you also have other
word at here.anyway,no matter this case have what result,it also will be used by you! but any people who have
mind will find what you are doing is so funny!
(4) why did the leader of the Japanese consulate help Chinese guard to catch the lady and kid who run into the
consulate? why did they also said thanks to Chinese guard who did for the safety for the consulate and catch
the kid and lady.
(5)why do you just make this photo?you just was looking at it and waiting for things can be used and make a
"good photo"!!!or how can you just catch such view and make so  "good"photo?
I don't like to say that these kid and lady who run into the consulate without permit was arranged by you?
if so,I pity these lady who be used,but more pity you! who just show stupid.
  
(5) your goal is what when you do this to show such information at here?do you like some
war with China?do you believe that in the war just other people will die and you will just
look at?
    You believe that the god will not care that you do any think?you believe that god is blind
and don't know what is your goal?!!! ok wait for the god!
(6) have you found any people at here try to dry the "water"on your face? for me,I feel that
the water on your face may show you are so stupid.

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 5/18/2002 4:23 PM
I have no doubt that you have more freedom than I do at the moment, since I am under attack illegally, in a number of ways, for speaking out against my government....nothing but the truth that is being held back for GREEDY purposes by those that REALLY control my country.
 
During the incident of our plane and crew being held in China, I sent out a message to your government through the Embassy here in Washington; and my government didn't like that too much.  I warned them of contamination of the information contained in the plane's computers that would activate upon language translation; a "virus."
They were going to accept that and my general apology for the incident, without blame, but a simple show of sorrow; and let the 24 service people go.  My government disavowed my letter and the crew was held for another week.
 
This forum is for truth and you are free to speak because the purpose is to get through the lies and learn the truth so that those that would destroy the planet for POWER/MONEY and the insane GREED for these things can be stopped.
I am not familiar with this particular incident related here, but any information and opinion in the matter; or explanation, is welcome.
We are to share for the above purposes and reasons; to get out the truth and bring down the New World Order elites' Establishment of control.

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From: peaceSent: 5/18/2002 5:30 PM
Hi,Thanks!
yes,it is very important that we have an area in which we can be free to speak.
thanks for getting such situation!
I am happy for your great job at the case of plane in China!
 
Yes,in that spy plane case in China,many chinese ppl pity the China plane's driver who died in that case. how beauty and young lady lose husband suddenly and very nice a boy lose father suddenly.we don't know army's way,but anyway,the driver lose life for his job which is guarding our country.so,at that moment,what the lady and most Chinese want is USA's leader may say sorry.just so little a requirement.
At China,if a person's car kill other ppl,no matter who is right,the driver may say sorry
to the person who was killed and his family.so,by this idea,Chinese ppl really hope USA's
leader may also care a Chinese driver who died in the case.
 
Any american are welcome in China,when they stay in China,we all be kindness for them...
so,at that moment,if USA's leader don't care the driver who die,it may hurt the feeling of the Chinese people.
when Bush come on China,many Chinese armymen still work hard to guard him,this it not just
for guard Bush,it is for guarding a president of a great country.it is for the great people
of USA.
at that moment,many armymen who plan to marry,but have to marry late and guard Bush at
first.when Bush sleep,so many boy can not sleep and guard him...
Now,I believe they are right,because,at USA,most ppl be as you who are so great and love
peace!
we don't like to use history to country today.and in the history,USA also did not
attack China,China also have not attack USA.in the war with Japan at 60 years ago
many great american help China and died in China.we still memory these hero in these
years and at now.they live in out heart always.
anyway,we should be good friend!
 
also I like my government's word:" at 60 years ago,it is true,Japan attack China and
killed great amount Chinese,but we just need to blame the true killer--the government
of Japan at that moment and let them to get...but we must know-great Japanese civilian
are nice people.they are our friend."so,at now,you may find,any Japanese be happy
when stay in China.then they often say sorry to Chinese ppl for their old government
let so many Chinese ppl lose life..."

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From: MSN NicknameHAL838Sent: 11/19/2002 1:37 AM
People want peace. 
 Governments go to war. 
 Who gets killed?

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From: MSN NicknameCaMELIA460Sent: 5/12/2003 3:52 AM
I spent many years in China, I am sorry about the SARS because I planned to visit China this summer.
I visited China in the 80,s till the early 90's and enjoyed every moment. The people were honest and dependable. I traveled from Fujian to Quingdao, From Beijing to Chonquing. The diversity of China is remarkable. Listening to the Moslem morning prayers in Chonquing to the many Christian churches in Quingdao, Mass at Jinan, Palm Sunday in Shanghi (instead of palms they gave out branches from pine trees,) Beijing when I was first there I found the air needed to be cleaner, when I was there in the late 80's
it was very clean. Politically Communism is drifting away, I noticed that the Chinese people are basic capitalist and soon the government will be there. Not as fast as Russia but controlled enough to pervent chaos.
The walkon the Great Wall demonstrates the Patience that China has for a smooth transition.

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From: MSN NicknameTrueTales3Sent: 5/12/2003 4:08 AM
Now that the truth is coming out through groups like this and alternative reporting on the web, is it not surprising that countries like China and others, knowing that democracy has been a sham; would think they have a better idea and stick to it?

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From: MDDSent: 5/12/2003 6:23 AM
DEAR HAL how can i ask a question,, too just you

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From: MSN NicknameTrueTales3Sent: 5/12/2003 4:54 PM
HAL838's primary addy.

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