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General : FMH already gone to the dogs!  
     
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From: MSN Nickname_Xer  (Original Message)Sent: 10/21/2008 2:58 AM
I check my e-mail each day, and swing by FMH to see if Nacho has posted a thread to me.... Doesn't seem likely to happen, but just in case, I have checked daily. Well, as Gryphon said in so many words the other day, FMH is now blueeyedpupil's playhouse. Truer words! WOW! Now blue has invited SaltyCracker in, with her legs spread wide. yehaw!!! This is going to be fun. Salty is the same SOB I deleted the other week. Salty is a racist, homophobic, sexist pig and a half! The jackass is actually a member of the American Nazi Party! NO FRAKKING JOKE!!!!

Way to go Nacho, out with mean old men like Xer and in with little patty-cakes sweeties like Salty. Weeyow!!!

Since I am not a sadist, I am not only not going to be checking out FMH every day to witness it's degradation, I'm going to stop going there at all. If Nacho wants to say anything to me, he is a member of this board and he knows my e-mail address. ....wait a minute what's that bubbling noise?.... Is Nacho going down with blue's ship already?

If you wanna talk, Nacho, I'm here.


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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/21/2008 5:20 AM
Is it me, or does one never know what side of Blue one will get?
 
As for this cracker, I am somewhat delighted, especially given Powell's affirmation, to illustrate for him, how Neocons are defeating McCain Palin through their own words and actions. They push fence people onto the Obama side, because the undecided reasonable want nothing to do with the ignorance, and mean, divisional spirits who support McCain, through rise of Ayres associations, Muslim religion associations, birth records, and other senseless, corrupted, non-issues.

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/21/2008 8:51 AM
Yeah, y'all have fun, Jen. Many years ago someone online said words to the effect, if you wrestle with pigs you are going to get muddy. I have never forgotten her meaning, though I do wish I could remember her name. We only had one encounter.

Nevertheless, there is no point in me viewing a board where I am not a member. I've just never been comfortable being a peeping Tom. Perhaps you would be kind enough to let me know if Nacho posts something specifically for me to read? Otherwise, I'll leave y'all to your fun. I despise Salty Cracker and all the vermin like him.

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/21/2008 8:53 AM
Is it me, or does one never know what side of Blue one will get?

It ain't just you, babe. (take off on Sonny and Cher)

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/21/2008 9:18 AM
Jen, sorry, never mind. If Nacho has something to say to me, he knows how to find me.

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 Message 7 of 17 in Discussion 
From: The GryphonSent: 10/21/2008 1:48 PM
Jen and Pikes, please be careful when "having fun" with Cracker.  He's a slimy one, and I'm afraid of ya'll getting some of that slime on you.....     I'm glad I'm outta there...

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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/21/2008 5:53 PM
I am making Cracker into my spurned Gay lover. It's really quite funny.

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 Message 9 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameneverCominHomeSent: 10/21/2008 6:23 PM
That guy is a royal pain in the ass...and Nacho is out of state!  I texted him and told him that he wanted to have fun...so get in there!  I'm sure that he'll require babysitting...and yes...I already smell the aroma.
 
Xer luv, no harm no foul. 

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 Message 10 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/21/2008 6:51 PM
He's no pain in my ass yet. Frankly, I think he's Viennese. (Is that a triple entendres?)

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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHomeSent: 10/21/2008 7:07 PM
lol Pikes...you keep him busy then and away from the other members.  That's my concern...those of you who know this dude understand where it's coming from...others may not.

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 Message 12 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameNacho_and_a_halfSent: 10/24/2008 5:18 AM
Xer,
 
I'm not going to post anything over at FMH to you, instead I'm gonna post it right here, where it should be.
 
This:
 
Way to go Nacho, out with mean old men like Xer and in with little patty-cakes sweeties like Salty. Weeyow!!!
 
Well, like Jen said, I gave all the managers a heads-up, and by the time I got back from my last business trip, he was already gone. So see, he didn't last very long, did he? I'm sure he's blowing steam over at Goldwing's right now, and let him. I simply don't give a shit what Cracker says, never have, never will. That man is an ass hole, and he knows it. He's a racist, self-sufficient idiot, who will never change.
 
Now that I've said that, do you think I would ever say the same words about you, Xer? Have I ever even come close to that? You decide! Don't even think for a moment that I would ever put you in the same boat with Cracker. I'd shoot a hole in that boat from a distance, and throw you a liferaft. Obviously there's a clear difference here!
 
Nacho!
 
 
 

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 Message 13 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/24/2008 9:19 AM
YooHoo! Nacho Man!!!

Wonderful to see your great big smilin' important face 'round our backwards little community of nobodies. Seriously, man. Glad you are here, and hope you show up a lot more often too! My stress level has dropped dramatically since I don't have to deal with blue's trash anymore. I REALLY hated quitting, Nacho, but that crack about oskar having had enough of me broke that broken down old camel's back. As an individual I always have liked oskar. As a critic of America I find him less than charming. And, I am not the only person here who got tired of oskar's America bashing a loooong time ago. Ask some of the other folks here if they don't feel the same way. Blue has made my health issues more difficult to deal with, but when I got no support from you... well, the handwriting was on the wall. No hard feelings, sport. I'm still your friend. You just have to come over to my house to talk to me now. Not all that hard is it?

As for cracker? If we were in the same boat with him, I would jump overboard into a swarm of sharks, in a hurry too. The sharks would be safer playmates. If you aimed a little higher, instead of hitting the boat, maybe you could hit old Deliverance man? "He got a right purdy mouf."

Nacho, what you seem to have missed about allowing Cracker to track feces into the FMH house is all the nastiness he brought out in other people while there. That is exactly what he loves to do! He lives to make 'libruls' get filthy in his own muck, so he can tell them how they are no different and no better than he is while they are covered in his sh!t. He's been doing that for years and years. You hadn't picked up on it yet? That was why when I recognized his sorry butt, I kicked him out the first time. Maybe you haven't noticed, but Noserose and Belle are VERY selective whom they allow into their group. I guarantee, you will never see Cracker on their board. Sometimes the time to take out the garbage is before it makes the whole house stink to high heaven. I also got rid of Thomas and what's her name 'girl' when people started degrading themselves to get even with the oafs. Trolls reduce the quality of a board and should be shown the door, in my humble opinion. But, as I always said to you, your board is your board. I only served as a manager at your pleasure. When it no longer seemed to please you, I quit serving.

You know I have N E V E R deserved the trash blue is determined to deal me. She has been trying to make me want to leave YOUR board (I just wanted to stress it is YOURS and NOT HERS) ever since the big flap over Libs' vibrator link to the Slate historical article. You also know you have never seen me harass blue. I haven't. Fair is fair my friend, and if you can't protect this old man from harassment, it is incumbent upon me to look out for myself. As said above, my stress level, disposition, and thus my health have all genuinely improved since I left FMH. If you are unable enforce certain standards of respect on your own managers for other managers, and all board members�?well? You can talk to me here now.

Hope your trip was everything you wanted it to be. Glad you are back home safe and sound (bet your wife and Nacho are too). And, it is a most genuine pleasure to have you post here. Please do it more often! You have always been welcome here, and you know it!

Ever your friend,
Xer

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From: The GryphonSent: 10/24/2008 12:57 PM
Ditto!  We miss you here, Nacho.....  

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From: MSN NicknameNacho_and_a_halfSent: 10/25/2008 2:16 AM
Xer,
 
Listen to me for a sec here......
 
I'm gone for week on business, traded the Nacho for the Cracker (just to see what would happen), and yep, just like I thought, wouldn't go over well. My Blackberry has never made so much noise ever! I couldn't keep up with all the e-mails coming, and I couldn't read the board, either. Finally, Blue sent me an e-mail and said, "we've had enough!" I responded and said, "Bump Him!"
 
I warned ALL MANAGERS of FMH before we let him in! Jen responded the very first day and said this isn't going well.
 
As to the sharks in the boat thingy, I wouldn't jump overboard if I were you, why wouldn't you just throw Cracker in the water instead? That's what I'd do. He's in his mid-60's, I can take him!
 
As to Blue and Oskar, and how you get along with them:
 
Well, they're both friends of mine, too! I've known them both for a very long time. Just like I've known you, Gryphon, Cracker, Goldwing, Lilsis, Rags, Case and others, too...... We don't all have to get along, but we do need to agree that "netiquette" is key to having harmony in a community.
 
I met Pikes recently out in Colorado. He's a good man. Very smart. Educated. And in tune with the world around him. By the way, if anyone ever goes to Colorado and wants to climb something there, you better have Pikes with you, because he knows his shit and every hill in that state, too! When we departed at the hotel I was at, there was a hug there! I'll admit it. I think we were both thinking we "ain't done hanging out yet," but the timing and distance he had to drive spoke otherwise. I'd adopt Pikes as "Uncle Pikes" any day! (As I'm sure I'd do with other people I've met around the boards too). Xer, you're no exception, I see you that way, too. Come on, give me a freakin' break here!
 
I've talked to Lilsis on the phone so many times, I can almost tell you what color the paint is in her kitchen! Do we agree on the boards? HELL NO! And when she came to the Headlines, she lasted about as long as Cracker did! The Headlines isn't geared for hard right wingers, never will be.
 
I only belong to 6 boards, and they're not all political boards. I like the food boards too. I'm not as much of a board junkie as others are, actually, I'm probably a lightweight when all things are considered.
 
I'm certain that Cracker is probably over at GWT's right now spillin shit all over the place. And he's got his little buddy Sgt. Pepper up his ass to help him spill it, too! I look at both of them like long lost hunting buddies who lost their way in the woods, then all of a sudden they're about to shoot each other accidentally!
 
As you know, like most know, I don't have the time to sit and read the boards everyday. My cell phone never stops ringing (all business), and the trips going elsewhere are only increasing by the week. This is why the Headlines has other managers. Sure Dee and I started the board, but this doesn't mean that I see everything. I get e-mails all the time from various members, and sometimes I just have to say, "GET OVER IT!" It's always a flyby post that pissed someone off somewhere. I can't keep up with it all to be honest with you. Xer you and I (and everyone else over the years) have seen this happen.
 
Finally, there's a slight chance..... a slight, slight chance that I may be coming to Seattle in mid-November. There's a group out there that wants to meet me. We'll see. I didn't want to make this announcement just yet....... but since your pissed at our board, I might as well!
 
Nacho!
 
P.S. - Gryphon, we miss you too! We love you at the Headlines!
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/25/2008 9:57 PM
Nacho, I get it. You are busy building an economic empire. And, good for you too!

Fellah, I knew Cracker wouldn't fit well into our community before he ever came there as heirhorney. I also knew he was going to make a foul stench and cause people to post some things they would later regret. That garbage is not good for any community. Did you notice how many posts had to be deleted after he left? And, I don't just mean his own. Why do you think I took the precaution of deleting his membership the first time? Because I cared about the best interests of the community, not because I had any personal agenda. You know me, and you know damn well I am as fair a manager as I can possibly be. I have had several e-mails from other members of the board before, and even after I left, from people telling me how much they appreciate my evenhandedness as a manager!

Since I am the one who deleted heirhorney/Cracker, blue cried crocodile tears for his departure, just as she complained that Thomas and what's-her-name-girl had done nothing wrong after I had deleted them. Blue even made snarky remarks (backing up Libs, and Joe) about managers who are afraid to admit deleting members they have deleted. I was gone for a few hours and she took advantage of my absence to bad-mouth me, BUT SHE WAS CAEFUL TO NOT USE MY NAME SO SHE WOULD HAVE PLAUSABLE DENIABILITY. Blue is a very adroit manipulator. I am neither paranoid, nor stupid. I had a 4.0 GPA in college. Trust me, I am not stupid. My specialty has always been analysis, one of the reasons my physics prof. loved my lab reports! I also got great reviews on my papers analyzing films when I went onto film studies. It isn't paranoia when I recognize something you overlook because you are too busy to read the threads.

As to Blue and Oskar, and how you get along with them:

Well, they're both friends of mine, too! I've known them both for a very long time....... We don't all have to get along, but we do need to agree that "netiquette" is key to having harmony in a community.


Okay, I'll bite, where have I not exercised "netiquette" with blue and oskar? Please be specific. Blue in particular I have made great efforts to avoid conflict with because she is a fellow manager. Efforts she has not reciprocated! In fact she has made especial efforts, as exemplified in an above paragraph, to undermine me as a manager. I have never asked you to not be their friend, never! Have you forgotten when you invited Lil to join your board, and afterward wrote me saying you hoped I didn't mind? My reply was, "your board is your board, your friends are your business, and if I couldn't manage to tolerate Lil on your board it [was] my own responsibility to leave."

All I ever asked was for you to get blue off my back. As also mentioned above, she began not using my name when she maligned me so she could pretend innocence. Do not blame me because you did not have time to read and think about what you read. I tried to tell you. You ignored me, then joined blue in blaming me for oskar leaving. I never asked oskar to leave. I have enjoyed bantering with oskar since I met him. That does not mean I have to enjoy him slamming ME for George Bush's policies. Oskar is not a little child, he choose to leave. I respected him enough as a man to not make a big deal out of it, figuring he would return after he cooled off. But, blue has to keep making it about ME. It's not about me. I didn't pester blue, heck, I didn't post anything to her at all. She harassed me. And, you know darn well what I did for her! So, how did I ever deserve her abuse?

I met Pikes recently out in Colorado. He's a good man. Very smart. Educated. And in tune with the world around him.

You needn't convince me anything about Pikes. Pikes is a member of our Café in good standing.

Come on, give me a freakin' break here!

I gave you a break. I gave you several breaks, but blue never got off me, and you evidently have no sway with her. I did nothing to you either. I simply protected myself from unwarranted attacks by removing myself from the arena where the attacks were occurring. You would rather I left my physical health at risk by remaining in a stressful situation? Really? Was I hurt that you care about blue's feelings, and not about my feelings, nor my health? Yes. Nacho, I am not anyone's whipping boy, not blue's, Not Joe's, and not oskars.

It's always a flyby post that pissed someone off somewhere.

Not me, bud. What bothered me was a long-term campaign of blue's to making me feel unwelcome on a board--I may not have been there for the first day on, but--I bloody well helped build! You remember sending me an e-mail the first day you opened FMH? Do you remember that because of YEARS of harassment from LIL, Woodstock, and Cid, I refused to leave the safety of this community, even for you, for the first week or two? I remember very clearly. You persisted in your attempts to make me a member of FMH, and I finally relented to join your board when there were only about six members, including yourself. Let's see�?it was you, Dee, Pache, oskar, and me, oh and some woman, Sheri? Shara? She was always claiming to know psychology, and the others all hated her. Dee finally got mad and banned that woman. We were it! We were FMH then, and we built it up from there. I never invited as many people as you did, but bud, the people I invited were first-rate people!

There's a slight chance..... a slight, slight chance that I may be coming to Seattle in mid-November.

Yes, you have been promising for quite some time now, you are coming to Seattle and we would visit. As I have said before, please let me know when you are coming. We can get together for coffee or dinner. Your choice. Sorry I can't drink much alcohol these days, still you are welcome to enjoy yourself however you see fit. My mother is visiting us in November, but I will make time to visit with my old friend from Michigan!

Xer

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/25/2008 10:00 PM
The quote above about blue and oskar should have been in italics. Instead I mistakenly bolded it. It's not worth deleting and reposting the entire post for. I just wanted to make the correction here.

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