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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHome  (Original Message)Sent: 10/26/2008 10:22 PM
It's a beautiful day in California.  I'm getting ready to go out for a walk...see if I can't soak up some stray warmth and store it for winter.
 
Last night some new friends took hub and me to a theatre to hear some music.  It's a great venue!  It's one of those old theatres that has been restored, but they've removed the seats.  If you saw the movie "The Majestic" it looks like that.
 
We saw a group called "Boulder Acoustic Society"...Pikes, have you heard of them?  Interesting eclectic mix...good fun...
 
How's my pals here?


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From: The GryphonSent: 10/26/2008 10:53 PM
Jen, I've been in some restored theaters, but they still had seats.  Where did you SIT?     
 
Very nice day here in the southern Ozarks of Arkansas today.   Got into the 70's, but my tomatoes are looking a bit sad.....  No real freeze at night yet, but pushing close in the 30's.....      I've given away a lot of fresh tomatoes, and even frozen some, so I guess it's time for tomato season to be done....    I plan to plant the same type ("Arkansas Travellers") next year.   They're hardy, prolific, and peel easily!   

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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHomeSent: 10/27/2008 12:35 AM
Gryph, your tomatoes sound delicious!  I didn't get here early enough to plant...but I will next spring for sure!
 
 

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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/27/2008 2:19 AM
Gryphon, one of my all time favorite areas, anywhere, is around Blanchard Springs Caverns, and the Mountain View area. Jimmy Driftwood is one the truly great American folk artists. I had no idea that is your stompin' grounds. How fortunate you are!

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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/27/2008 2:20 AM
Our growing season wasn't warm enough for Arkansas Travellers. Not enough GDD.

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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/27/2008 4:56 AM
Jen, I've heard of them, but I haven't heard them.
 
Things out of The People's Republic of Boulder are sometimes screwy. Had an encounter today, matter of fact.
 
Copied below
 
 
Another example of the loss of our American freedom.
 
Today, I took a young man from church, fossil hunting, and caving in an area about fifty miles southwest of us. His parents are unable to do this with, or for him, and it was my service.
 
When we got to our destination, we walked up to the landowner's house, to ask permission to explore the cave, entrance of which is on his land.
 
He told me he'd love to, but the caves are now gated and locked. An environmental group from The People's Republic of Boulder set this up, and they won't let him have the combination! They manage the caves. The land owner agreed to this, because of liability issues raised by the group's lawyers.
 
These are fine caves for a first time caver. Nothing really dangerous... no verticality, except in one entance pit descent, which can be chimneyed for 15 feet down, and one ascent of a breakdown pile to an upper room, an easy ten foot climb.
 
So I contacted a spokesperson from the group. In order to take the young man caving, he and I must take their courses on spelunking technique and etiquette. Then, we can go through these caves only with their accompaniment, with a minimum of four people.
 
The caves were gated to keep out vandals. They are bat friendly gates. These caves contain few speleothems, and there is nothing to vandalize.
 
I explained that I was a long time member of the NSS, and intimately familiar with those caves. I still have to take their courses. He was indignant, condescending, and rude.
 
I asked him if he owned a copy of Caves of Colorado, and of course, he does. I told him to take a really good look at the maps of those caves- one with 800 feet of passage, the other with 1300 feet. My name is on the maps, as I was on the team that originally mapped them, thirty years ago.
 
That doesn't matter. I still have to take their courses, and be accompanied by their members if I want to visit those caves.
 
The landowner was sympathetic, and I could tell he wasn't really happy about it. The caves are his property, on his land. But he signed a legal agreement, and then got this great deal. There isn't anything he can really do.
 

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From: The GryphonSent: 10/27/2008 1:43 PM
Pikes, if you know the Mountain View, Arkansas area, then you've been within 30 miles of my house!  You're welcome to come visit any time (I recommend warmer weather.  My air conditioning here functions much better than the heating does!   ) 
 
I don't know Jimmy Driftwood, but I'm confident Raymond Creasy knows him and they've probably jammed together.   (Ray is my ex-brother-in-law, and an amazing Artist and Musician - can play any stringed instrument...., even played with Willie Nelson a few times.  Age is crippling up his hands though, so Ray is now into making furniture and instruments out of native woods - some even from my own property!   )
 
When I bought those tiny tomato plants last spring, there were just too many varieties from which to choose.  I picked the "Arkansas Travellers" because Sister's best friend prefers them, and I had heard of the BAND by that name! 
 
Oh, and Pikes, I'm so saddened by your caving disappointment.  You are so right that too many of our Freedoms are being eroded by the spoil-sports who wish to "protect" us into ignorance and inactivity.   It's much too "dangerous" for our children to go outside, so let's plant them in the radiation field in front of TVs and Monitors, and stick a cell phone next to their heads.  Yeah.  Keep 'em fat and dumb.....    
 
Sure glad my kids got a chance to explore and get dirty and actually LEARN some stuff while they were growing up.  Not everything is Taught in our Schools, but must be Learned by surviving the experience. 

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From: Old CootSent: 10/27/2008 5:28 PM
paraphrase:

"he was lost in thought since it was strange territory"

oc...been there

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 8:10 AM
Bless her heart, my wife tried frying some green tomatoes from our garden for me. Problem is green tomatoes are supposed to be deep fried. My wife doesn't deep fry anything for me anymore. Deep frying is off the menu for heart patients! What she does when she has to fry anything for me is, she uses a tiny bit of non-stick spray in the skillet. Ummmm, okay, I gotta tell you, fried green tomatoes just ain't right done that way.


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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 8:25 AM
Who is The People's Republic of Boulder? Pikes, consider enlisting the aid of the ACLU. It sounds like this 'environmental' organization is more interested in making money than protecting the environment. Any group that demands EVERYONE must take their course to use those facilities is not non-profit. It is a business. Sounds like there's something stinking in Denmark... or inthose caves? Can't remember where now, but know somewhere before my heart attack I ran into someone who demanded I take their beginners' course even though the area was a specialty of mine. Unfortunately, since the anesthesia during the surgery, there are some holes in my memory now.

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 8:27 AM
Coot, that's my favorite of all territories.

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 8:35 AM
Jen, when I finally returned from running errands it was 7:10 PM, after dark. I parked the truck and walked to the mailbox. I was wearing my flannel shirt and the leather vest my sis gave me for my birthday, and it seemed so warm I felt terrible for not having had a chance to go for a ride today. On the spur of the moment I hurried to the garage, pulled Wildfire out, and took off for a 'quickie' ride. Wanted to be back before Chuck started at 8:00 PM. Rode almost all the way to Shelton, Washington, before the clock on the dash told me it was time to turn around. Yeah, my ankles and neck were cold, but the rest of me felt SO good to be out and riding. Sometimes I envy your California weather, but I wouldn't trade living here for living there on a bet. Our air is so much cleaner, our crime rates so much lower, etc...

So how was your Monday?

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From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 10/28/2008 4:25 PM
Who is The People's Republic of Boulder? Pikes
 
Its our local name for the city of Boulder. So liberal, it makes Ted Kennedy look conservative. Not reasonable liberal. Loony bin liberal. What they did with these caves is a classic example of it.
 
Gate the caves to keep people from trashing them, or risking danger to themselves? These caves have been well known and explored for over a century. To gate them now, to preserve their contribution to the earth and society, is stupid.
 
Gate new discoveries, where there is significant geologic, biologic, or historic contribution. Leave places like this, for the purpose of education, which was my intent.
 
When I was in high school, three friends and I played a wierd practical joke in this cave. Below the entrance pit, a slope drops down for about 300 feet, to a fairly large, open room with several levels. We hauled a card table and folding chairs down there, and played poker one afternoon. The cave was popular among local high schoolers, who sometimes drank and partied there... which is to say the cave is sufficiently trashed and vandalized. I don't know who the Boulderites believe they're saving the cave from. In any case, several parties visited the cave during our game, and once they saw us, they decided things were just too wierd in that cave, and so, left.

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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHomeSent: 10/28/2008 5:56 PM
My Monday was good...I got the 2nd writeup from peer evaluation, and it seems that all is going well.  I'm still up to my brain stem in papers, but that's to be expected this time of the year.
 
I'm glad you got to go for a ride!  Sounds lovely...

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 9:08 PM
Thanks, both. Today started off really foggy. It's cleared, but there's still low clouds hovering. Better than rain, for sure. It is a bit cool today. Maybe I'll go for a ride in this funny weather...

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From: MSN Nickname_XerSent: 10/28/2008 9:32 PM
Get this, since the last post, the clouds have burnt off and the sky is robin's egg blue. Oh yeah. Look out Smokey, here come da' bandit! <buggy grin>

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