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| | | From: Old Coot (Original Message) | Sent: 11/15/2008 8:14 AM |
with a few numbers - did a google and found:
easycalculation.com
oc...try it and you will love it ... |
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Well Xer, I quite often get up at 3 am. It seems that my brain is most active in the early morning hours. Been doing that since high school. The 3 hours time difference between Seattle and here is a bit of a pain since we do keep in telephone touch with our two boys (men) out that way.
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Provocative thought, gentlemen! When is human mental activity most creative? I used to belong to the NSS, and remember the research on biorhythms carried out in some caves. The human subjects, without a method of tracking time, worked and slept in intervals that adjusted to 24 hour cycles. Is that a product of our daylength by coincedence, or some deeper genetic code in concert with the rhythm of our planet? My most mentally active time is between 6pm and midnight, and coincides with most performances. When I am composing, the best work came out at that time too, extending more past midnight, probably because composing is less strenuous than performing. Is our psychology adjusted to the time, or is the time fitted to accomodate our natural psychology? I tell you this. Whitten is right. Everything is made of "music." There is an oscillating cycle and resonance in absolutely everything, from the tiniest subatomic wave, right up to the Big Bang itself. You know one irony, is the screwl I worked at last year calls itself a "math and science school," and when we were to "name" our rooms, I named mine, the Ed Whitten Room. Not one person in the screwl knew who that is, and the sigh-ence teachers were also unfamiliar with String Theory. Yep.... and they fired me, and kept them.... In my dinking around, I am trying to pull up on this dive into the low end of the inspirational, and inspired reason for life and existence. |
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Thanks Pike. I wonder have you put much thought in one of my favorite pastimes of considering the various aspects of dimensions other than our three?
oc...BTW, I really have enjoyed getting to know you a bit. |
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Coot, do I understand correctly? Thought about dimension? One intrigues me beyond all others; The Singularity. |
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OC, I struggled with the subatomic level dimensions, until I read A Brief History of Time. That yielded illumination for me. The idea of resonances makes them even more compelling, universal, and interesting. It is cool how we can share our perceptions and insights through this medium, that makes us virtual neighbors. |
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I'm still pondering Mandelbrot. Actually, at this point, I may be bordering on obsession. To me, Mandelbrot's Set is equal to Einstein's Theory of Relativity in Importance.  Pikes, how can you look at those Mandelbrot Fractals without hearing music? To me, they illustrate "The Music of the Spheres"  Can you tell I think Jonathan Coulton is an unappreciated Lyracist....?  |
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Pikes, I'll have a look/see at "A Brief History of Time" on our next visit to B&N. My latest most enjoyable read was "Einstein His Life and Universe" which my son sent for my last BD present. I am a big Brian Greene fan since he has a gift of presenting complex material such that even I can understand it. (at least I think I do....hoho)
Gryp, I done a bit with set theory including Mandelbrot's Set. The equations per se are not all that difficult, but the enclosed images are nothing short of fantastic. And of course Coulton is terrific.
But alas when it comes to music, I have a hearing impairment and not a bit of musical understanding.
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Gryph, for me it goes way beyond Mandelbrot! I see and hear music in everything. Everything. Anything that has any kind of cycle, exists within the dimension of a rhythm, that oscillates from one perspective to another, including perspective itself. In general application, is the ability to hear notes in all sounds. For example, when I my car engine hums on bA, the car is a 55mph. Halfway between B and C, and that is 75mph. A slightly flat F is 35mph. I rarely need to look at the speedometer. Multiple notes, as in harmony, is a kind of plaid. The artistic dimension is vastly deeper, with aspects that remain intangible, and variable from person to person, while unified in experience. |
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But alas when it comes to music, I have a hearing impairment and not a bit of musical understanding.
Actually, a hearing impairment brings you in closer touch with an inner music, of which outpoured sound is only an evidence. When Beethoven finally silenced the outer distractions, and paid attention to his inner music, his greatest music was written. You have it, and it may be manifest in some way other than organized sound. Music doesn't require sound. Mozart said silence is the greatest effect in music, and he is right. |
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That is how and why Gryphon hears music in Mandelbrot's equations. Her inner music reveals it. Many people are deaf to their inner music, and many more are ignorant to it. |
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Well you did it, Pikes! You made me think a bit about music as an entity. Thanks.
At my this mornings 3:00 am session, I came to the conclusion that if music were a car, then I was only seeing a wheel. Or if music was a mathematical series, then I was only seeing one term. I believed that I have mentioned that I was an avid sailor. Early on, two buddies and I bought a heavy duty wood sailboat with a wheel. Later in Florida, I bought a shallow draft keel center board racer/cruiser that had a sensitive tiller. With the wheel boat, we had to watch the sail activity to optimize speed. With the tiller, I could maximize speed by tiller feel and not even look at the sails. Now, that was music! The vessel sang.
oc...thanks |
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Coot! "The Vessel sang." What a fabulous description of "feeling" the dance of a sailboat across the waves!  Thank you! |
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| | From:  _Xer | Sent: 11/18/2008 2:25 AM |
| Really, Gryph, that was cool. Very expressive! Imagistic even. |
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OC and Gryphon! That's it! That's inner music- the real music. Not black dots on white paper graphing some explorational, or emotional expression. The finest acknowledgement of musica instrumentalis, is "your music moved me." You know that music from your sailing, oc. You felt it to the degree that simply by feel, you understood. Touch is an overwhelming sense. Not only is more brain dedicated to its interpretation than all other senses combined, but it is the one sense that does not have a specific transducer mechanism (eyes, ears, nose, tongue) to convey understanding to the brain. The entire body is its transducer. Because of that sense, people like Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, and Jose Feliciano were able, not only to play, but felt their way, using keys (or strings) as a kind of Braille. They played more by touch, than by ear. |
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