Greta-sounds like you and Ted need to go to Portugal and do some investigating on your own. Like try to get the log on that rental car. As far as body bags even if they are Doctors they wouldn’t be able to just walk in a hospital and say hey I need a body bag. And if this was premeditated if they brought one with them from the UK, they would have taken a chance of having their bagage checked at the airport. My gut still feels they are innocent. I’m not a doctor but if I’m not mistaken the only thing that would delay decomposing of a body would be embolming fluid, and if I’m not mistaken they blood would have to be drained before embolming would take place, but maybe Dr. Boden would answer this one. Cindy L

Sorry just thought of another question does anyone know if this was the same rental car they had when they first came to Portugal and what kind of car did this Robert Murat rent? Cindy L

If they are so sure that they have enough evidence to charge these parents why wait up to 10 days before making a decision-still something stinks in this investigation and its not a body or aleast I don’t think its Maddy’s little body. Cindy L

Tetti comment 1:21

Are you suggesting they embalmed their daughter before, (as someone else mentioned) placing her in a suitcase, or 25 days later in the car? It seems that if the child had been placed in a body bag one gets from the hospital, then why would there be any leaks onto the floor of the trunk leaving DNA consisting of body fluids or blood? I do not believe that either of the doctors specialize in pathological forensics or even pathology.

The only explanation I can think of, if Maddy was taken from the resort after 25 days, is that her 4YO body would have been put in a freezer for storage. Maybe the police should be looking at all people who worked at the resort…as they should have done in the beginning.

Greta: I can’t imagine being a parent and not knowing where my child is. It has
to be torture and then being a suspect in her murder. Why aren’t the Police
looking for the real person that abducted her. They are wasting time !!! I just lost
a grandchild. We buried her and had a little closure but not knowing where your
child is must be the most devastating thing in the world !!!!

Greta: I can’t imagine being a parent and not knowing where my child is. It has
to be torture and then being a suspect in her murder. Why aren’t the Police
looking for the real person that abducted her. They are wasting time !!! I just lost
a grandchild. We buried her and had a little closure but not knowing where your
child is must be the most devastating thing in the world !!!!

I don’t think they even know whether they have enough evidence to charge them or not.!

I am aware that people hate to think that parents can harm their children, especially when they are people like the Mccanns who are doctors - however it happens more often than we like to think. People should not forget that even though the PGs made mistakes at the start of the investigation, they have since been helped by the British Police and they have had the family under surveillance for some time, both in Portugal and England apparently. I really hope that the family had nothing to do with this, but I have always had the feeling that they may have. I am English myself and I do have confidence in our police force, and in our forensics people - what a complete tragedy if it comes to light that they did accidently kill their daughter and then tried to cover it up. One other point - if they are guilty in some way, they have done a huge disservice to other people who may have missing children - people will be less likely to want to donate to a fund like the Madeleine fund in the future - and that would be sad. The Times newspaper in London has a very interesting webpage which gives information and breaks down the unanswered questions and possible answers - it makes interesting reading. The link is

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2422967.ece

There are many points in this article that require answers from the Mccanns.

In the meantime, let us keep Madeleine in our thoughts and prayers - she is what counts here and answers must be found no matter where the investigation leads.

What a mess! It will be interesting to see how much more this case will twist and turn as the months progress. Keep up the good work Greta.

Small children can get into a lot of things when left alone. Who’s to say Madeline did not overdose herself on some of her parents pills? Did the other persons checking on her go IN the room? Maybe her mother found her already dead and panicked. Remember the man some people saw carrying a child in a blanket that night near the room, could the mother have possibly had a friend take her body away to hide it elsewhere? The parents rented the car 25 days later, but who says they were the only ones who drove it. Could they have loaned it to the person who had Madeline’s body hidden elsewear. so that person could go bury her for them? Afterall, everyone was watching the parents. Possibly police wiretapped their phone, catching them contacting this other person who had the body hidden. I don’t believe the mother killed her, and I believe The McCann’s both loved their daughter, but if this was an accident, and not an abduction, they might have panicked and not known what to do. Far-fetched, I know, but a possibilty.

Do we know who rented the car during the 25 day period PRIOR to the time it was rented by the McCanns? I’m surprised that hasn’t been covered �?/P>

Maybe the person who kidnapped Madeline has a vendetta against one or both of the parents, or has been smart enough to place DNA in the rented vehicle, which would implicate the parents.

If the DNA was placed there by the abductor, that would answer the question of how could the parent’s move the body, while under such tight scrutiny. Remember, finding DNA in the vehicle does not mean the body was actually there. There is no shortage of sick, demented individuals.

I don’t believe these people have hurt their daughter.

I don’t believe anyone in Portugal has checked the rental logs on this car-I wonder if the car Robert Murat rented was rented from the same place? How many car rental places are there in this area-I do hope the police have checked all this out. I still think that this Robert Murat (hope thats his name) either did something or knows something. Can the McCann’s attorney get access to all this evidence and can he or she check to see what and where the police have investigated including people?

dearGod ,if they’re innocent , i hope portuguese law isn’t like france ’s where if you’re charged -you have to prove your innocence , as in jean val jean’s case . unlike us where 1 is presumed innocent -peolpe who continually knock this nation don’t know ho lucky they have it. why aren’t tim robbins,sue sarandon ,mahar , et al living in cuba or other nations they praise -all the while putting u s down ?

Greta- are you going to have your legal panel back on tonight? That was a great show, very well done. Cindy L

Madeline McCann Investigation
1. Have the people from the nursery club where the children stayed been checked out?
2. The car was rented 25 days AFTER Madeline missing. Was the rental car checked out
to see to whom it was rented previously? Maybe the car came with the Condo and
the knipper obtained info within the condo. This is a thought - maybe re worded.
3. In the beginning, I thought, the friends that they had dinner with took turns in checking
on their children as well as the McCann’s.
4. Did I hear Dr. Bodden state that the blood after 25 days fround in the trunk is to dry
for D&A.?? If this is true what he said, that I don’t believe. Only if the trunk being
closed for that lenght of time. Let me know!

Nita Quinney
Pasadena Texas

Madeline McCann Investigation
1. Have the people from the nursery club where the children stayed been checked out?
2. Maybe the car came with the Condo and the knipperrented the car throught the
condo. This is a thought - maybe re worded.
3. In the beginning, I thought, the friends that they had dinner with took turns in checking
on their children as well as the McCann’s.
4. Did I hear Dr. Bodden state that the blood after 25 days fround in the trunk is to dry
for D&A.?? If this is true what he said, that I don’t believe. Only if the trunk being
closed for that lenght of time. Let me know!

Nita Quinney
Pasadena Texas

cindy l would make a good inspector cleaseau - of french fame .

Hey Pedro! Tell us what you really think!

It is a mess. How could they hide a body and then dispose of it after so many days when the media was after them everytime they went outside? And now people are turning on the parents without real proof?

If Maddie had gotten into pills left in the room, and od’d, surely the parents would have notified police and told them what happened�?unless it was illegal drugs she took.. Then, they may have been fearful of being charged with having illegal drugs. They are both Dr.’s so they could have had any number of drugs with them on the trip. I am leaning away from the kidnapping scenario, and more towards, “Maddie od’d after having been given too many sleeping pills�? I, too, wonder why it takes ten days for a decision from the prosecutors.

I agree with the person who suggested you go to Portugal and show us the settings. You did a good job explaining the Aruba legal process, as much as it can be explained. Your legal expertise could help us with this case, too.

And what was the medicine that the British lady was speaking about last night �?the one that “bad parents�?use to sedate their children when the parents want to go out? What is it? Do we have it? Do parents here use it? Very interesting.

Thank you.

ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE MCCANNS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR DAUGHTERS DISAPPEARANCE IS NAIVE, STUPID AND ILLOGICAL. IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. WHAT DID THEY DO WITH THE BODY? AND THE SMELL OF THE VEHICLE OR APT THEY WERE RENTING? HOW DID THEY HIDE THIS FROM THEIR TWIN SIBLINGS WHO LOVE THEIR OLDER SISTER? THE POLICE ARE BLAMING THE VICTIMS. THEY WANT THIS CASE OFF THEIR BOOKS. PORTUGAL DOESN’T WANT TO LOSE TOURISM DOLLARS. THEY WANTED THE MCCANNS GONE. THEY’RE GONE. THE POLICE ARE IN NO POSITION TO CUT TWO YEAR DEALS. THAT WOULD BE THE PROSECUTION. WHY DIDN’T THEY RULE THEM OUT OR CHARGE THEM IN THE BEGINNING? WHY DID THEY LET THEM LEAVE THE COUNTRY? HERE’S MY FAVORITE. (CLINT VAN ZANDT-MSNBC FORMER FBI PROFILER). THE PARENTS WNATED TO PRAY ALONE, SO THE PORTUGESE NOW THINK THEY HID THE BODY IN THE CHURCH. YEA, RIGHT. GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!! WHO CARES WHO RENTED THE CAR PRIOR? WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. THIS HAPPENED TO THE RAMSEYS, AND IT’S HAPPENING TO THE MCCANNS. IT DOESN’T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE THIS OUT. HOW ABOUT COMMON SENSE, AND A BRAIN THAT COMPREHENDS WELL. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!

Comment by heather dodge

Comment by pedro tavares

I am wondering if the McCann’s have offered to take a polygraph. I understand the tests are not admissable unless all parties agree to accept the results beforehand, but taking the test does carry weight as an investigative tool and also with the public. Interestingly, there are two camps of people who do or do not take a polygraph, with Mark Klaas, Ed Smart, and Mark Lunsford in the camp that took a polygraph immediately so as to help move along the investigation, and with Scott Peterson, O.J. SImpson, and Michael Peterson refusing the test by an official. After making a trip to see the Pope and collecting millions of dollars in a donation fund, it appears to me that taking a polygraph should be considered immediately to get this investigation back on track if, indeed, they had nothing whatsoever to do with her disappearance. As a parent, it would be the first thing I would want to do to help find my child.

Greta the Great. Portugal is not America or Britain. It does not have the levels of violent crime that we have, therefore it does not have to work the same way our countries do to take violent people of the streets. The continued criticism of of the Portuguese legal system and Police is not warranted. Lets hope the truth comes out�?I cant believe the McCanns and there family representatives have all of a sudden gone quiet. Time will tell. It’s only correct that the parents are questioned…just like they would be in England and America

Anthony–I tend to agree with you in general. We are being a little hard on the Portugese police.

…but the police did make mistakes in the beginning–maybe they weren’t accustomed to a crime like this. They won’t allow the McCanns to talk about the case, but they can’t stop talking. There’s a level of unfairness in that. Mrs. McCann could be innocent and honestly believe she is being framed. The police investigated the parents 81 days into the case and came up with the forensics late in the case as well. One of the investigators allegedly used over-the-top tactics to get another woman to confess several years back. All this is why people are criticizing them.

They are probably doing as well any police force in their situation. Time will tell, as you said.

Portugal authorities have wanted the McCann’s to leave for awhile. Is this their way of getting rid of them?

Portugal wanted the McCann’s to leave. Is this their way?

Who rented that car during those 25 days before the parents rented it, and why has nobody even asked that question about this? Or has that question already been asked and satisfactory answers given? And so what if there were hairs and fluids from Madeleine? If my baby were missing, I would hang onto everything she ever touched until I found her and all of her belongings would have hair from her (especially hairbrush) and possibly bodily fluids, as well (toothbrush?). She was a very young girl. What kinds of fluids were found? Was it urine or sweat? Something of hers could have either of those fluids on them and it would only be normal for the parents to continue to carry those items around with them, not wanting to let go of her belongings, and her blankets would have those things on them. But back to the question that nobody seems to be asking, my original question �?who rented that car those first 25 days and couldn’t her killer or abductor have transported her in that car before her parents ever set foot in that car? Has anyone asked this question?

I would like to know if they have any of Madeleine’s DNA for comparison purposes?

Greta,

Everyone has a problem with the timeline, odor, etc…but there are other possibilities. Could it be that she didn’t die right away? There were supposed sightings of the girl with a woman and two men early on. Or? She died before the timeline begins? Does anyone know if she was actually seen by those who went out to dinner with the parents the night of her disappearance? The timeline doesn’t bother me so much because of other cases, i.e. Scott Peterson. How did he do it? We may never know.

Also, I don’t mean this as insult to Dr. Baden, but since his testimony in the Phil Specter murder trial I tend to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Ok Greta, I have some plausable anwsers on the McCanns tragedy/mystery. Now lets just say they have some friends in Portugal helping them out with rides and transportation while vacationing there. Now suppose one of the friends owns or runs a rental car fleet or agency. Maybe, just maybe that friend let them have that car for a day or two with no typed up or signed contract. Now suppose they gave it back after the accidental death. So they grieve and go high profile on their loss and then the friend rembered he gave them that particlar auto and they requested it that particular vehicle. By the way do you now what year make and model of the rental (was it American or European) and what was the name of the rental car agency. Keep up the great show! -Scott Cariker,
San Antonio, Texas

Just wanted to add that I didn’t mean earlier that nobody had asked the question, but rather have the police asked that question, have reporters asked that question about where was that car before the parents rented it? Looks like everyone BUT police and reporters might be asking the question. And I have a question for you, Greta. Are you going over there to investigate this yourself? I just cannot buy it that the parents are involved in this whatsoever. If they were involved in it in any way, they would have to be two of the most coldhearted, calculating killers in history and sorry, but neither of them strike me as being such. I think the Portuguese police or politicians just wanted the McCanns to leave their country and what better way than to finger them for this crime? Surely if they truly believed these parents had anything to do with this, they would not have let them return to England otherwise.

Oooh, I just had a brainstorm. Since the McCanns used IVF, I wonder if it’s possible that Madeleine and Amelie could be identical twins. It sure could throw off the already questionable DNA results.

I am really curious on this; just can’t grasp the McCann’s guilt. Interesting and scary (other governments) to watch unfold.

i think it is rediculous the way the police have handled this from the beginning , i myself dont think the family are anyway involved in the disapearance of madaline has anyone looked into the disapearance or murder of any other children in the area going back several years, as for the reporting of the investigation,any reporter can say A SOURSE CLOSE TO THE INVESTIGATION STATED and then go on to write what ever rubbish they think will sell there newspaper. if the mc canns had nothing to do with this terrible crime ,then think about it, the same thing could happen to some other holiday maker, at the end of the day portugals tourist trade will pay the price for the way the police have handled the case, the public will show there reaction by boycotting portugal as a holiday resort cheers itsme01698

I think Kevin from Malibu made a very stupid comment. At the end of the day these people our the loving parents of that little girl and would not be going off looking for a body bag so that they could dump her somewhere. I think the portuguese police are a disgrace and just because they cannot do there job properly they are pointing the blame at the parents. It is an absolute disgrace, I bet the person who did take her is laughing right now.

I am also appalled by the portuguese people who booed and geered both the McCanns when they were being interviewed by the police in Portugal. There is probably nothing worse then for your own child to be taken, especially in a country where you would not have the support.

I believe the parents are 100% innocent.

Hi Greta dear,
I’ve been thinking about this off and on for several days:
Is Maddy’s mother her biological mother or is she Maddy’s stepmother? No one has ever said and I’ve wondered because I heard on one of the news programs (maybe yours? I don’t recall) that a neighbor overheard a child crying “Daddy, daddy, daddy�?for something like 90 or so minutes on the night Maddy vanished and somehow I received the impression that earlier in the evening Maddy and her mother had been arguing?

That video of Maddy and a sister attempting to walk up the steps of the plane and then losing their balance is darling. Please notice no one was nearby to help them up the steps.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the parents could stop their posturing?

They are quilty I feel sure of that, to leave CHILDREN ON THEIR OWN is very bad,
Maddy would have been found by now if she was kidnapped, there is something very strange
about this case, and why can’t all other parents of missing children get the help that the McCanns have had, they started all the publicity, and didn’t tell the truth about many things, I agree with the police theory in Portugal. Quilty

I have not heard this mentioned in the Madeline Mc Cann search. Have the investigated who had the car rented BEFORE the Mc canns rented it…suppose the killer had it rented on the night she disappeared?�?mybe its a closeby rental place that it would not be unlikely for someone else to have rented the car…Just a thought�?unless of course the Mc canns had it rented all the time. hmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnn?

Can anybody tell me why we haven’t posted a reward for Madaline? It is obvious to me that “SOMEONE�?knows where she is, and the evil one who thought this up would be given up for enough money. The world needs to find her!

Please reply,

Loving Madaline,

Janie

How could anyone do this to madeline a sweet innocent child. I am only eleven and I know I would be scared to death but she is only four I cannot imagine how she feels. I really home she is found well and safe. I can’t believe she is still gone. I pray and pray for her I have said the rosary a few times hopefully God will guide someone to her.

I am sorry what happened Mr. and Mrs. Mcann

Mcann family I am also sorry about some rude remarks you may have gotten and having to go to court because some people think you may be the victims. I keep hoping for good news and I wish you well.
Emma

i have heard on the news that the parents left the door to there condo unlocked while they were out with there friends?do u think maybe it was a planned abduction of there child and the reason they kept going to check on the children was to see if there daughter was gone? i mean wouldnt u think the parents would lock there door to keep them safe or from there children from getting out and why would someone target one child and not all of them?

i would never leave my kids alone in any country it a bad world all over and if i was on
a holiday and my kids were asleep i would of got my dinner sent to our room kids under 18 need supervision 24 hours a day im a mum of six youngset four a boy he is never out of my sight ever sorry but you she should of stayed with kids and maddy would still be her today with her family .dated 10.12.2007 thankyou for letting me have my say.

I know that I heard on the news that Madaline had been found and that she would be home before Christmas. No one else has heard this. Please tell me that I am not crazy.

i cant belive that the finger is still pointing at the perants they are inocent i just hope and pray maddie is found soon. the poruguise police havent got a clue whats happend. they should of done a lot lot more if this was brits or american police this would of been sorted adges ago its . we shouldnt be turning against the maccanns we should be supporting them at this horrible time

I couldn’t understand some parts of this article GretaWire, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

I also heard that the police in Portugal found bloody clothes wrapped in a shower curtain from the motel unit in another town??Did anyone else hear this?
The police said earlier they believed Madeline fell down the stairs to the unit because of evidence they found, but how did she get over the child gate? If the parents left the door unlocked and she was upset crying daddy, she may have tryed to climb the gate( I have seen children do it at poolsides often, ) and fell onto the stairs. The parents may have found her later, was it dark after eight?She could have been missed by the others checking their children. Being scared of being charged with neglect causing the death of their child, they could of hid her somehow. Odd that they contacted media first instead of police. I dont think she is alive after all this time and evidence of blood and foul play, poor girl.