MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Madeleine McCannContains "mature" content, but not necessarily adult.[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  WELCOME  
  LATEST NEWS  
  PJ FINAL REPORT  
  Member Messages  
  ►►SITE MENU◄◄  
  ►► MESSAGES �?/A>  
  All Messages  
  General  
  Messages For Maddie  
  Madeleine  
  Off Topic  
  Breaking News  
  Pet Memorials  
  MEMBER WELCOME  
  MEET THE MANAGER  
  ►►SUMMARIES◄◄  
  ►►�?MEDIA ◄◄�?/A>  
  NEWSPAPERS  
  Telegraph  
  Newspaper Thread  
  MAY Reports  
  JUNE Reports  
  SUN BOARD  
  TIMES BOARD  
  Daily Mail  
  MIRROR BOARD  
  GUARDIAN BOARD  
  Deleted EXPRESS  
  News Archives  
  News Articles  
  TV Program Links  
  Transcripts  
  TV News  
  Video Links  
  JOURNALISM  
  News Sniffer  
  ►INVESTIGATION�?/A>  
  Interviews  
  Suspicious  
  Re-enactment  
  Subliminal & Propaganda  
  Contrived Abduction  
  Facts  
  'Evidence'  
  Libel Threats  
  Lies  
  Quotes  
  Theories  
  Forged Photos?  
  McCann Travels  
  Timelines  
  FUND INFO  
  Fund  
  FUND INCOME / EXPENSES  
  Fund Compilation  
  FUNDRAISING  
  Fund 'Sources'  
  ►►►PEOPLE◄◄�?/A>  
  Kate McCann  
  Key People  
  Clarence Mitchel  
  Government  
  Brian Kennedy  
  Jon Corner  
  Metodo 3  
  Photofit  
  People MISC  
  Witnesses  
  Family  
  Unknown People  
  Esther McVey  
  Pol. Judiciaria  
  Tapas 7  
  Backers  
  ►►►► INFO◄◄�?/A>  
  Weather  
  The Law  
  Beachy  
  thentherewere4  
  Beachy Posts  
  AMBER ALERT  
  Information  
  M & E Children  
  Statistics  
  HUMAN BEHAVIOUR  
  Body Language  
  ►► CHAT ROOM�?/A>  
  Chat User Guide  
  ►► OPINIONS◄◄  
  Coldwater  
  HiDeHo  
  Jon Gaunt  
  Comments to Note  
  Gerry's Blog  
  Personal Attack  
  Misc Blogs  
  bb2002  
  Tabs poem  
  ►►WEBSITES◄◄  
  mccannfiles.com  
  Website Links  
  ►►PICTURES◄◄  
  Pictures  
  Manager Graphics  
  Pics fo Posting  
  Photo Curiosity  
  Backgrounds  
  ►►FORUMS◄◄  
  Digital Spy  
  Websleuths  
  THE 3 ARGUIDOS  
  3A Thread Lists  
  3A at Brussels Conference  
  3A Smiles  
  3A Ref. Threads  
  3A Distributions  
  3A Leaflets  
  MIRROR FORUM  
  M F Threads  
  Memorable Posts  
  Great Posts  
  Lost Pages  
  ►E-MAIL ADDYS�?/A>  
  ►►COMPUTER ◄◄  
  COMPUTER HELP  
  Computer Tips  
  HOW TO TIPS FOR 3A  
  3A How To Post  
  Avatars  
  ►►�?GAMES◄◄�?/A>  
  Brain Teasers  
  Time Wasters  
  Interesting Fact  
  Funnies  
  Points To Ponder  
  Nostalgia  
  Amateur Sleuth  
  For Skeptics  
  Estelle's Posts  
  Search  
  Priest  
  Remember Madeleine  
  Songs & Lyrics  
  'Source' Info  
  British Police  
  Sheree Dodds  
  PR & Spin  
  Trial  
  Your Web Page  
  3A Here To Stay  
  Documentaries  
  Diary  
  TEAM McCANN  
  Mgzne Interviews  
  TV INTERVIEWS  
  Robert Murat  
  Oprah  
  AMARAL'S BOOK  
  Fridge  
  McCanns History  
  McCann 'Defence'  
  Martin Brunt  
  Statements  
  Apologies  
  Investigate Fund  
  Statement Tables  
  MISC Web Pages  
  Millenium /Tapas  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Lies : Lies Told?
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 1 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknametin-lizzy  (Original Message)Sent: 2/23/2008 11:31 AM
(Unknown )
Perhaps they're too busy following up all the lies that Kate and Gerry have told from day one?

1) The shutters were jemmied open. What's that, Mr. Policeman? They weren't? Oh yeah, I remember now - we left the door unlocked so our friends could check on our children more easily when it was their turn.

2) What's that? Our friend's mother says that all the members of the party were only checking on their own children? Oh yeah, I forgot. We left the door unlocked in case there was a fire, so that Madeleine could rescue her siblings and get them out of the building if necessary.

3) Oooh, it was definitely an abduction. There's no way that Madeleine could have got out of the room on her own. Obviously if there had been a fire, she'd have acquired temporary super-human strength in her panic and managed it, but that didn't happen.

4) The tapas bar? Oh that was only a stone's throw from the apartment. We could see everything that went on. It was like having dinner in our back garden. Well, Robert Murat's back garden then. Anyway, we were checking on them regularly every 15 minutes.

5) What's that? The checking times don't match up with our friends'? Damn...oh no! Wait - I remember now! We were only checking on them every half an hour - but that's still well within the boundaries of responsible parenting. I mean, come on. Everyone does this on holiday with their children. Anyone who doesn't is an overprotective lunatic whose children should be taken away by Social Services for their own good. And Madeleine was definitely in there when Gerry checked at 9.05 p.m.

6) Well, actually Mr. Policeman, I'm not TOTALLY certain that Madeleine was in there at 9.05 p.m. - I mean, I looked in the room and I saw the twins, and I noticed that a door was open that hadn't been opened before. But I just assumed Madeleine had gone into our room because she got fed up with the twins crying. I mean, I didn't bother actually going in the apartment to make sure she was OK or anything. Why would I? She's old enough to look after herself - for goodness' sake she was almost four. How will children ever learn independence if they have their parents checking up on them every five minutes?

7) Hmmm? What's that? It's a bit odd that the twins never woke up through all the commotion that was going on in the apartment? Did we ever sedate them? What a ludicrous suggestion. They're two years old - sleep through anything, they will. Apart from when they deliberately wake up and cry to annoy Madeleine, obviously.

8 ) Why didn't we use the resort's babysitting services when they were offered to us? Well, we didn't want to leave the poor children with a bunch of strangers all evening - what kind of cruel, heartless people do you think we are? What's that? You've heard we left them with those same strangers all day every day during our stay in Praia da Luz? Well, it was our holiday too. We had to have a break. And anyway, it's all right to leave your children with strangers in the daytime - we do that all the time at home. Leaving them with other people at night-time as well would be excessive - so we thought they'd be better off on their own.

9) How did we know immediately that Madeleine had been abducted and not somehow got out on her own? Well, we've already told you Madeleine could only have got out of that room if there had been a fire. And, anyway, Cuddle Cat had been put on a shelf out of her reach. Kate noticed that immediately - well, you would. Your daughter's gone missing, you're frantically searching the apartment for her - of course you'd immediately twig the location of her favourite toy and run screaming back to the table that she'd been taken. What's that? Kate told the press she couldn't remember when she first realised Cuddle Cat had been moved? Oh...er...well...she's still very upset. Distraught mother and all that. Doesn't know what she's saying.

10) Why did Kate leave the twins alone in the apartment again when she realised Madeleine had been taken? Oh she just panicked. The twins were fine - they were fast asleep. As usual. She didn't want to disturb them by calling me on my mobile. Anyway, we needed her to come running back to the table screaming, "They've taken Madeleine" so that there would be lots of witnesses who would be able to attest to our presence in the bar all evening. Just in case any corrupt policemen try to fit us up later in the investigation, obviously.

11) You've detected a death scent in our apartment? No-one else has ever died in that apartment? The body must have been there for at least two hours for the dogs to have detected that smell? You've found traces of blood in the apartment too? None of this is evidence that Madeleine is dead. It's all rubbish, I tell you. Madeleine is alive, and we need people to keep on giving us money...er...looking for her. All this talk of forensic evidence is hurtful and unhelpful - we will keep on insisting that Madeleine is alive until we are blue in the face...as was Madeleine the last time I saw her, actually...

12) Oh for Heaven's sake, what now? Not that flipping dog again! OK, so now it got excited when it sniffed our hire car. Thousands of people have probably rented that car - any of them could have had a dead person in the boot. And you've found Madeleine's hair and bodily fluids in it? That's impossible - Madeleine's alive, I tell you. There's absolutely no evidence that she is dead. Your friends must have planted that evidence, Mr. Policeman. You're a disgrace.

13) Now those blasted dogs have found the death scent on the car keys and Kate's clothes? (Must make a mental note to ask the fund directors if assassinating dogs is a reasonable use of fund money...) Well, it's obvious - Kate is a GP and she dealt with at least six decomposing corpses in the weeks before we left for Portugal. The scent obviously transferred onto her clothes and then onto her keys. And Cuddle Cat. Which, as a caring Catholic, she also took to work to comfort decomposing corpses. This is a witch hunt. We will stay in Portugal indefinitely to clear our names.

14) What's that? Kate bought the clothes in question AFTER Madeleine had disappeared? Oh...er...sh*t...let's go home to Leicestershire now...

15) It's ridiculous that we've got £800,000 sitting in a bank account and we're not allowed to use it to defend ourselves against these outrageous accusations, for which the Portuguese police have not got even the tiniest shred of evidence for. We are going to ask the company directors if we can use it. Oh p** - they said no. Oh, we never had any intention of asking for money from that fund - of course not! What a ridiculous suggestion - we were just going to set up a different fund altogether so that more gullible, poor people can pay for the privilege of helping us keep our lovely, six-bedroomed house instead of having to sell it to pay the best lawyers in the country.

16) We have invited Leicestershire Social Services round for a nice cup of tea and a bun. We did this because we are responsible, loving parents, and all responsible, loving parents invite Social Services round to check on their children after they've been on holiday. It's perfectly normal. Why would they come round for any other reason? It's not as if we've done anything wrong.

17) Oh no, here we go again with the forensic evidence. Excuse me while I stifle a yawn. Yes, yes, yes �?we know about the death scent. Look, Kate got it wrong about those casual holiday clothes that she thought she’d worn to work. Actually, the scent must have come from that large bag of meat that we bought with the fund money and were saving for our ‘Welcome Home�?party �?er…I mean Madeleine’s welcome home party. Well, as you know, she didn’t come home but Kate couldn’t bear to part with the meat just in case. But, you know, it’s hot in Portugal �?the meat started to rot and was attracting flies and cadaver dogs and stuff�?So Kate decided there was nothing for it, and heaved that huge sack of putrid flesh into the rental car and drove it ten yards down the road to the nearest bin. Of course the smell transferred to just about everything she touched �?what do you expect?

18 ) And the bodily fluids in the boot of the car? Well, that would be the twins�?dirty nappies. They have huge sentimental value for Kate �?she’s such a devoted and loving mother. That’s why we had to have a six bedroomed house, you know �?needed somewhere to display all those precious mementos of childhood. Or the fluids could have come from Maddie’s dirty pyjamas �?Kate couldn’t bear to wash them, so she stored them in with the spare tyre to keep them safe. Along with Maddie’s sweaty sandals. That poor kid had a chronic B.O. problem. It was like sweat haemophilia �?she just kept on perspiring and the stuff never dried, either. Weeks later, her clothes and shoes would still be dripping with the stuff. Weird.

19 ) DNA? Look, chum, we had thirty people in that car. Not all at the same time, obviously. But you know what? Every single one of those people has got DNA! Duh! So how the hell are you supposed to tell whether it’s Madeleine’s or anyone else’s? Come off it, matey, next you’ll be trying to claim that everyone’s DNA is unique. What do you take me for? There’s a perfectly innocent explanation for everything that the police found in that car. Now if you’ll just tell us exactly what they DID find, we’ll be able to get our stories straight once and for all instead of groping around blindly in the dark trying to cover every conceivable eventuality.

20) You know what? I’d LOVE to take a lie detector test. Firstly because I know that the Portuguese police wouldn’t be allowed to use the results as evidence in court anyway, so they won’t do it. Secondly because we’re not allowed to talk about the facts of the case to anyone else due to Portuguese secrecy laws, so nobody else will be allowed to ask us any pertinent and revealing questions anyway. And thirdly because our new PR bloke advised us that this was a good thing to say as it might have the effect of persuading a few gullible Jeremy-Kyle-watchers that we don’t have anything to hide and are therefore completely innocent.

21) We felt like we were being watched that whole week that Madeleine went missing. It was really creepy �?just a feeling that someone was watching our movements and planning to take one of the children. Hmmm…what’s that? Why did we leave the children alone in an unlocked room every night then? Well, hey come on. We didn’t even have to think about leaving them alone �?it just felt so safe, you know?

22) I reckon the abductor was hiding in the apartment when I went to check on the children. You know I said I saw that a door was open when it hadn’t been before? Well I reckon the abductor heard me coming in and didn’t have a chance to close it again in case I saw him. So I went in and closed the door and came back out again. If only I’d gone through that door, I could have caught him! What’s that? If I went into the apartment anyway to close the door, why didn’t I just go into the next room and double-check to see if Madeleine was there? Ummm…oh that’s right �?I remember now. She WAS in her bed at 9.05 p.m. �?silly me. I did see her after all. Anyway, I bet when that intruder heard me go, he realised that he only had a few minutes to escape �?even though I’d only just checked the children and he’d been monitoring our movements and knew that no-one would be back for half an hour. So in his panic, he dashed back into the room I’d just vacated, grabbed Madeleine (who didn’t wake up or scream or anything, despite not being sedated), jumped out of a smallish window, saw Jane Tanner and vanished. It’s so simple. The police must be total i***** not to have figured this out �?my mates and I sorted it all out ages ago.

23) I cannot believe Murat is no longer being investigated. He is lying about being there on the night. We cannot understand why it hasn't been followed up why Murat lied. We are being scapegoated. Our friend definitely saw him carrying Madeleine back towards his house �?there’s no doubt about it, now she’s remembered he wasn’t heading for the supermarket after all. If only Jane hadn’t been so sensitive and sweet in not mentioning it to Kate at the time in case it worried her, you could have had him red-handed. And all that stuff you found in the car? I bet you got the labels mixed up and mistook his car for our one �?typical bl**dy incompetent foreign police. What’s that? You’ve cleared him? Oh…er…yes, actually we’re really happy about that. Cheers us up no end, that does, being the only official suspects in the case. Good on him. Jolly pleased. Ummm�?/DIV>


First  Previous  No Replies  Next  Last