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miguelinha
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Diplomat had informed London of the possible involvement of
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Un document classé confidentiel, envoyé en mai depuis le Portugal, par un diplomate britannique à un haut responsable du gouvernement britannique, suggère, pour la première fois, la possible responsabilité du couple McCann dans la disparition de leur fille Madeleine.
A document classified confidential sent in May, from Portugal, by a British diplomat to a top responsible for the British government, suggests, for the first time, the possible responsibility of COUPLE MCCANN in the disappearing of their daughter Madeleine.
Le diplomate parle de "déclarations confuses" à propos de l’emploi du temps du couple et de ses amis, mais aussi de contradictions e manque de coopération avec la police portugaise, accusant un autre représentant de la diplomatie britannique, présent au Portugal, de "dépasser ses pouvoirs et faire pression sur les autorités locales".
The diplomat speaks about " confused statements " regarding the timetable of the couple and their friends, but also about polarity e lack of collaboration with the Portuguese police, accusing one another British representative of diplomacy, present at Portugal, " of exceeding his powers and putting pressure on local authorities ".
Dans le document, le diplomate demande également la confirmation d’un ordre reçu de Londres, la veille, dans laquelle serait ordonnée une "aide totale au couple McCann", indiquant que les britanniques devraient "être accompagnés en permanence, dans les contacts avec la police portugaise", par un diplomate ou par les agents de police envoyés depuis le Royaume-Uni
In the document, the diplomat also asks for the confirmation of an order accepted from London, the day before, in that would be ordered a " complete help to the COUPLE MCCANN ", pointing out that the couple should " be permanently accompanied, in contacts with the Portuguese police ", by a diplomat or by the policemen sent from United Kingdom
'Avec le plus grand respect, je vous fais remarquer que la démarche risque d’être très mal perçue par les autorités portugaises, spécialement si ont considère la possible implication du couple. Pouvez vous me confirmer, face aux dernières informations, que nous devons continuer à nous impliquer dans le cas comme il est demandé dans votre précédent message', écrit le diplomate.
' With the biggest respect, I point you out that step risks being very badly perceptible by Portuguese authorities, especially if they have consider the possible involvement of the couple. Would you be able to be confirmed me, faced with the last information, if we must continue getting involved in case as one asks for it in your previous message ', writes the diplomat.
Depuis la disparition de Madeleine, la nuit du 3 mai, et l'appel telephonique de Gerry McCann à Alistair Clark, plusieurs diplomates britanniques sont intervenus au Portugal, auprès des autorités portugaises et du couple McCann : Sheryl Dodd (envoyé par le gouvernement de Tony Blair), Bill Henderson (consul pour l’Algarve), Celia Edwards (qui à accompagné les McCann pendant les interrogatoires qui ont conduit à leur mise en examen) et John Buck (l’ambassadeur), parmi d’autres. Détail intéressant, Sheryl Dodd à abandonné son poste au Foreign Office, Bill Henderson à pris sa retraite, l’ambassadeur John Buck à été relevé de ses fonctions à Lisbonne et n’est plus au Portugal.
Since the disappearing of Madeleine, the night of May 3rd, and the call telephonique from GERRY MCCANN to Alistair Clark, several British diplomats intervened in Portugal, to Portuguese authorities and to COUPLE MCCANN: Sheryl Dodd (sent by the government of Tony Blair), Bill Henderson (consul for Algarve), Celia Edwards (which in accompanied McCann during the cross-examinations which drove to their indictment) and John Buck (the ambassador), among others. Detail interesting, Sheryl Dodd in left its post in Foreign Office, Bill Henderson in retired, the ambassador John Buck in summer released from its functions in Lisbon and is not any more in Portugal.
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anon
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:
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CM is the 'constant' police companion of the mccanns then, I guess.
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pear
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:
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Interessante
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beachy
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:
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Oh, Jaysus. I'm going to have to dredge up my schoolgirl French and see if I can translate this.
Will say this, though, if nothing else this case has made the French go up exponentially in my estimation.
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ladydriver
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject:
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That's really interesting, thank you. I wonder where that information came from?
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joaohonesto
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject:
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MUITO interessante!
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miguelinha
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject:
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[quote="joaohonesto"]MUITO interessante![/quote]
Yes, it is...
But, my english [e muito mau. Leio muito bem, mas escrevo um bocadinho mal,,,
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xxdelly
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject:
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What exactly is SOSMaddie?
Is it a blog, or a newspaper?
Anyone, please.....
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Vexiana
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject:
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HAL
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject:
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[quote="xxdelly"]What exactly is SOSMaddie?
Is it a blog, or a newspaper?
Anyone, please.....[/quote]
It's Paulo Reis
'Nuff said, right?
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miguelinha
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject:
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[quote="xxdelly"]What exactly is SOSMaddie?
Is it a blog, or a newspaper?
Anyone, please.....[/quote]]
Its a blog written by two journalists
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thentherewere4
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject:
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Did anyone catch the next para about the gumshoes M3 ?
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thentherewere4
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:
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They've been lieing and they're in the red and losing money and although they claim to employ 40 detectives they can only afford to employ 12.
Thank God for Mr.Kennedy and his wonderful double glazing spondooliks.
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mrc
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject:
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[quote="xxdelly"]What exactly is SOSMaddie?
Is it a blog, or a newspaper?
Anyone, please.....[/quote]
SOS Maddie is a blog, run not by Paulo Reis, but by Duarte Levy, who is a freelance journalist, who has written for the Times, El Mundo, NY Times and the French press. He is well respected, and a thorough investigator who undertakes 90% of the work for his articles himself, and sometimes in conjunction with P. Reis. His blog, with articles appearing daily, is a mine of information. Frequently, he has advance notice of news we only find out the following day- probably since he is understood to have connections within the PJ. This makes his late night MSN sessions with trusted posters particularly popular, as a source of 'inside' information.
The articles are available, translated into English, which is contorted, but understandable - definitely worth following, if you've got the time.
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Nicholass
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Diplomat had informed London of the possible involvement
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[quote="miguelinha"]http://sosmaddie.blogspot.com/2007/11/diplomate-avait-avertie-londres-de-la.html
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Un document classé confidentiel, envoyé en mai depuis le Portugal, par un diplomate britannique à un haut responsable du gouvernement britannique, suggère, pour la première fois, la possible responsabilité du couple McCann dans la disparition de leur fille Madeleine.
A document classified confidential sent in May, from Portugal, by a British diplomat to a top responsible for the British government, suggests, for the first time, the possible responsibility of COUPLE MCCANN in the disappearing of their daughter Madeleine.
Le diplomate parle de "déclarations confuses" à propos de l’emploi du temps du couple et de ses amis, mais aussi de contradictions e manque de coopération avec la police portugaise, accusant un autre représentant de la diplomatie britannique, présent au Portugal, de "dépasser ses pouvoirs et faire pression sur les autorités locales".
The diplomat speaks about " confused statements " regarding the timetable of the couple and their friends, but also about polarity e lack of collaboration with the Portuguese police, accusing one another British representative of diplomacy, present at Portugal, " of exceeding his powers and putting pressure on local authorities ".
Dans le document, le diplomate demande également la confirmation d’un ordre reçu de Londres, la veille, dans laquelle serait ordonnée une "aide totale au couple McCann", indiquant que les britanniques devraient "être accompagnés en permanence, dans les contacts avec la police portugaise", par un diplomate ou par les agents de police envoyés depuis le Royaume-Uni
In the document, the diplomat also asks for the confirmation of an order accepted from London, the day before, in that would be ordered a " complete help to the COUPLE MCCANN ", pointing out that the couple should " be permanently accompanied, in contacts with the Portuguese police ", by a diplomat or by the policemen sent from United Kingdom
'Avec le plus grand respect, je vous fais remarquer que la démarche risque d’être très mal perçue par les autorités portugaises, spécialement si ont considère la possible implication du couple. Pouvez vous me confirmer, face aux dernières informations, que nous devons continuer à nous impliquer dans le cas comme il est demandé dans votre précédent message', écrit le diplomate.
' With the biggest respect, I point you out that step risks being very badly perceptible by Portuguese authorities, especially if they have consider the possible involvement of the couple. Would you be able to be confirmed me, faced with the last information, if we must continue getting involved in case as one asks for it in your previous message ', writes the diplomat.
Depuis la disparition de Madeleine, la nuit du 3 mai, et l'appel telephonique de Gerry McCann à Alistair Clark, plusieurs diplomates britanniques sont intervenus au Portugal, auprès des autorités portugaises et du couple McCann : Sheryl Dodd (envoyé par le gouvernement de Tony Blair), Bill Henderson (consul pour l’Algarve), Celia Edwards (qui à accompagné les McCann pendant les interrogatoires qui ont conduit à leur mise en examen) et John Buck (l’ambassadeur), parmi d’autres. Détail intéressant, Sheryl Dodd à abandonné son poste au Foreign Office, Bill Henderson à pris sa retraite, l’ambassadeur John Buck à été relevé de ses fonctions à Lisbonne et n’est plus au Portugal.
Since the disappearing of Madeleine, the night of May 3rd, and the call telephonique from GERRY MCCANN to Alistair Clark, several British diplomats intervened in Portugal, to Portuguese authorities and to COUPLE MCCANN: Sheryl Dodd (sent by the government of Tony Blair), Bill Henderson (consul for Algarve), Celia Edwards (which in accompanied McCann during the cross-examinations which drove to their indictment) and John Buck (the ambassador), among others. Detail interesting, Sheryl Dodd in left its post in Foreign Office, Bill Henderson in retired, the ambassador John Buck in summer released from its functions in Lisbon and is not any more in Portugal.[/quote]
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vivida22
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject:
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is there anyone left believing in imaginal delusions on sos madeleine
they are there just to protect pedos like bernard a( whatever)
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whats the deal with all these mysterious northern rich blokes like kennedy and david abrahams
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anon
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Diplomat had informed London of the possible involvement
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[quote="Nicholass"]
'Classified confidential.' [/quote]
c m still as time to spin himself free. like to say, he was working on the side of justice all along...he was on to the mccanns...especially of in a trial he was a witness for the prosecution...and aid out what he would know are their lies.
anyway, all this is of course, if they are found guilty.
they could still be innocent.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject:
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Gerry McCann and the entire strong and influential McCann family warrant political intervention at all levels; GM has worked hard, climbed high and is protected. In turn, he's protected his wife, remember his wife, hot lips, the one who can't cope with anything, not her career, her children, her home, her nanny, her husband.
GM has had full total protection; gaps and speculation have got in because of Kate Healy who married him.
Susan Healy cannot understand. She said Gerry was not good enough for Kate. No, Susan, you've made a mistake. There doesn't exist a man good enough or capable enough to cope with Kate. A sad sad situation. Kate couldn't cope; Kate hated it and was so jealous of Gerry and Madeleine and G's unconditional love for Madeleine.
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mirameau
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject:
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@mexx how many times will you tell your own dear-daddy story again?
we still don't know who "did it".
maybe gerry couldn't cope with family - holidays? how do you know what defect he has from his SISTERS? maybe he killed madeleine instead of phil?
that's the same thinking as your sick transmission of your own life.
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amplyjustified
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: Pinning it on the British
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[quote="ladydriver"]That's really interesting, thank you. I wonder where that information came from?[/quote]
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Portugal - The police shot themselves in the foot by announcing to the world that the parents were suspects, without all the forensic tests being back and enough solid evidence.
Their only hope- if they cannot now pin it on the parents - is to put about the rumour that the police were - shall we say - 'lacking' - in their investigations under Amaral & Co.... because they were so pressured by British interests.
Thus any reason for failure can be ascribed to British interests and not to Portugal.
It would be a waste of time to leak it to a Portuguese newspaper and the British probably wouldn't produce the right 'flavour' article... so move it sideways to France and hope that it's picked up worldwide.
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whoknowsanymore
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject:
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Or, it may be a good time for the stories to stick another knife in the back of Gordy.
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