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GoodForYou
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Has Gordon Brown done a deal?   
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That's what people are asking about Northern Rock and Branson.
But what about the McCanns?
Okay conspiracy theory here. This post does not reflect my opinion. It is only a "what if" scenario, I am considering.
GORDON BROWN INVOLVEMENT
Gordon Brown allegedly told the Portuguese Premiere that the McCanns were innocent, or at least he believed them to be so.
We all have heard how Brown personally intevened to have the Bundleman description released.
Also of couse, one of his spin doctors is now providing spin for the McCanms.
Also it has been reported that if the McCanns were Portuguese and there wasn't all this political interference they would have been charged by now.
Perhaps the McCanns would have already been arrested and charged if Brown had kept his nose out.
Why are we still waiting for the next round of interviews?
Is this hold up from the top?
So what's the deal? Is Gordon helping the McCanns just because he would help any other suspects in their position? I don't think so.
Is it a political game between Portugal and Britain? Or even a bargaining chip over Gibraltar negotiations. The McCann case could humiliate the Portuguese reputation for its police and its tourism. Is it a matter of personal friendships, his brother who knows people who are friends of the Mccanns? Or is there a specific reason why Brown wants to protect the McCanns? A secret we may never know about?
Suppose yes to any in the above paragraph. How can the McCanns be helped out of this situation?

ACTION PLAN TO LET OFF THE MCCANNS

First delay next round of questions as this would elevate the McCanns as suspects in the public mind.
Suppose public opinion can be turned so that most people in Britain believe the McCanns are innocent, then Brown's people could get the charges dropped without an outcry.
How can that be achieved?
Bundleman is the key, just as Bundleman was very important to Gordon Brown's intervention before..
If Bundleman can be shown to be a real person who was also seen by other witnesses and perhaps even abducted another child (in Huelva) it would show clearly to most people that the McCanns must be innocent and there is no case therefore to make charges.

ACTION OVER PAST WEEK
All the elements have been put in place over the past week or so.
Child abducted not too far from Praia da Luz.
Cooperman, the man seen by Gail Cooper is all over the front pages and TV News in a new media frenzy.
Tanner confirms Cooperman and Bundleman are one and the same.
Above information put out in a media blitz.

ACTION PLAN IN NEXT FEW WEEKS

Sightings of Cooperman will be reported in Huelva.
This is the "proof" needed that Cooperman/Bundleman abducted Madeleine and also another child.
Therefore the British people must believe the McCanns are innocent.
Flaws in Portuguese investigation now to be ripped open and exposed in the media in another frenzy.
Media to repeat that there is no case to be made against the McCanns.
The British tell Portuguese they want to drop case against McCanns and the British police will not reinterview them. There is nothing Portuguese can do about it.
Arguido status dropped and McCanns told their will be no further action against them.
The secret that the McCanns hold that may or may not include a government secret are never revealed.
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KappyKanz
 
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Great post GoodForYou, laying it out like that. I did notice one correction though. I read a link somewhere here tonight that Jane Tanner has said she will not recognize this man or be able to make an ID of him.
She is the key to their abduction theory, so that kind of throws out the new photo-fit, especially as he was last seen in PDL on April 20th. The McCanns didn't arrive for a week after that!

Thank goodness for small wonders, eh?
 
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FreeTalk
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject:    
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Good theory : I think that's the thruth or not so far from it. It is also the way I see it happen in the near future. It real makes you feel bad that the government of the UK doesn't make a move to stop this amasing farse! It is also very frustating that a country like Portugal has such a low influence in the EU. Justice should be done; the EU has a whole should protect small countries from the abuse of power of big countries. That's why they exist, to make of Europe a richer, more balanced, more powerful organization. In mt opinion Portugal isn't having any benefits of being in the EU. A crime has been made in Portugal. The suspects are known and they have to colabarate to the justice and not the other way around! They demanding, making a plan of how things should be done! It's amasing! And this happens only because the suspects are English with high positioned friends! Amasing! This case really shows the moral and principles of the authorities governing all of us in Europe. How is it possible to trust politicians ? Governments ? We are linving every in a Republic of Bananas ... maybe the result of globalization ....
 
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Tiberius7
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Has Gordon Brown done a deal?   
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[quote="GoodForYou"]That's what people are asking about Northern Rock and Branson.
But what about the McCanns?
Okay conspiracy theory here. This post does not reflect my opinion. It is only a "what if" scenario, I am considering.
GORDON BROWN INVOLVEMENT
Gordon Brown allegedly told the Portuguese Premiere that the McCanns were innocent, or at least he believed them to be so.
We all have heard how Brown personally intevened to have the Bundleman description released.
Also of couse, one of his spin doctors is now providing spin for the McCanms.
Also it has been reported that if the McCanns were Portuguese and there wasn't all this political interference they would have been charged by now.
Perhaps the McCanns would have already been arrested and charged if Brown had kept his nose out.
Why are we still waiting for the next round of interviews?
Is this hold up from the top?
So what's the deal? Is Gordon helping the McCanns just because he would help any other suspects in their position? I don't think so.
Is it a political game between Portugal and Britain? Or even a bargaining chip over Gibraltar negotiations. The McCann case could humiliate the Portuguese reputation for its police and its tourism. Is it a matter of personal friendships, his brother who knows people who are friends of the Mccanns? Or is there a specific reason why Brown wants to protect the McCanns? A secret we may never know about?
Suppose yes to any in the above paragraph. How can the McCanns be helped out of this situation?

ACTION PLAN TO LET OFF THE MCCANNS

First delay next round of questions as this would elevate the McCanns as suspects in the public mind.
Suppose public opinion can be turned so that most people in Britain believe the McCanns are innocent, then Brown's people could get the charges dropped without an outcry.
How can that be achieved?
Bundleman is the key, just as Bundleman was very important to Gordon Brown's intervention before..
If Bundleman can be shown to be a real person who was also seen by other witnesses and perhaps even abducted another child (in Huelva) it would show clearly to most people that the McCanns must be innocent and there is no case therefore to make charges.

ACTION OVER PAST WEEK
All the elements have been put in place over the past week or so.
Child abducted not too far from Praia da Luz.
Cooperman, the man seen by Gail Cooper is all over the front pages and TV News in a new media frenzy.
Tanner confirms Cooperman and Bundleman are one and the same.
Above information put out in a media blitz.

ACTION PLAN IN NEXT FEW WEEKS

Sightings of Cooperman will be reported in Huelva.
This is the "proof" needed that Cooperman/Bundleman abducted Madeleine and also another child.
Therefore the British people must believe the McCanns are innocent.
Flaws in Portuguese investigation now to be ripped open and exposed in the media in another frenzy.
Media to repeat that there is no case to be made against the McCanns.
The British tell Portuguese they want to drop case against McCanns and the British police will not reinterview them. There is nothing Portuguese can do about it.
Arguido status dropped and McCanns told their will be no further action against them.
The secret that the McCanns hold that may or may not include a government secret are never revealed.[/quote]
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Who's a clever boy then?
Now you are beginning to see some common sense.
Why do you think I have been insisting for so long that there will be no trial.?
Well, not until they find Cooperman, at least.  Those who walk the corridors of power always have the last word and they will agree with me that such a trial will be too politically sensitive.
The McCanns are innocent anyway, so what's the point of this never ending pantomime.......... As Alice said, "It gets curiouser and curiouser"
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GBH
 
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Trancebabe
 
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I hope that you are wrong but it is clear that there has been pressure put on the Portuguese at the highest level to drop this case or at least follow the McCann line regarding the "abduction". But WHY??? What could possibly be the motive for the PM of Great Britain to become embroiled in this farce. The media,including so called "respected" journalists turning a blind eye to the glaring inconsistencies in the McCann fairy tale. The only hope is that the great British public don't swallow any more of these lies and we make our voices heard. The scarey thing is that now, there isn't even a pretence of proper journalism. we are being treated as fools and if we don't like it, tough. The nazi propaganda machine couldn't have done a better job of misinformation and blatant lies that we are fed day after day.
We must never stop our quest for JUSTICE for little Madeleine McCann.
 
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ROCKY
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject:    
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Its a great theory ,here's the thing, spain arn't playing ball.There is no mention of madeleine mccann here..The picture of the suspect was shown yesterday lunch time.from the news of the world. no one is interested they are not covering this story.
 
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empathy
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Has Gordon Brown done a deal?   
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[quote="GoodForYou"]That's what people are asking about Northern Rock and Branson.
But what about the McCanns?
Okay conspiracy theory here. This post does not reflect my opinion. It is only a "what if" scenario, I am considering.
GORDON BROWN INVOLVEMENT
Gordon Brown allegedly told the Portuguese Premiere that the McCanns were innocent, or at least he believed them to be so.
We all have heard how Brown personally intevened to have the Bundleman description released.
Also of couse, one of his spin doctors is now providing spin for the McCanms.
Also it has been reported that if the McCanns were Portuguese and there wasn't all this political interference they would have been charged by now.
Perhaps the McCanns would have already been arrested and charged if Brown had kept his nose out.
Why are we still waiting for the next round of interviews?
Is this hold up from the top?
So what's the deal? Is Gordon helping the McCanns just because he would help any other suspects in their position? I don't think so.
Is it a political game between Portugal and Britain? Or even a bargaining chip over Gibraltar negotiations. The McCann case could humiliate the Portuguese reputation for its police and its tourism. Is it a matter of personal friendships, his brother who knows people who are friends of the Mccanns? Or is there a specific reason why Brown wants to protect the McCanns? A secret we may never know about?
Suppose yes to any in the above paragraph. How can the McCanns be helped out of this situation?

ACTION PLAN TO LET OFF THE MCCANNS

First delay next round of questions as this would elevate the McCanns as suspects in the public mind.
Suppose public opinion can be turned so that most people in Britain believe the McCanns are innocent, then Brown's people could get the charges dropped without an outcry.
How can that be achieved?
Bundleman is the key, just as Bundleman was very important to Gordon Brown's intervention before..
If Bundleman can be shown to be a real person who was also seen by other witnesses and perhaps even abducted another child (in Huelva) it would show clearly to most people that the McCanns must be innocent and there is no case therefore to make charges.

ACTION OVER PAST WEEK
All the elements have been put in place over the past week or so.
Child abducted not too far from Praia da Luz.
Cooperman, the man seen by Gail Cooper is all over the front pages and TV News in a new media frenzy.
Tanner confirms Cooperman and Bundleman are one and the same.
Above information put out in a media blitz.

ACTION PLAN IN NEXT FEW WEEKS

Sightings of Cooperman will be reported in Huelva.
This is the "proof" needed that Cooperman/Bundleman abducted Madeleine and also another child.
Therefore the British people must believe the McCanns are innocent.
Flaws in Portuguese investigation now to be ripped open and exposed in the media in another frenzy.
Media to repeat that there is no case to be made against the McCanns.
The British tell Portuguese they want to drop case against McCanns and the British police will not reinterview them. There is nothing Portuguese can do about it.
Arguido status dropped and McCanns told their will be no further action against them.
The secret that the McCanns hold that may or may not include a government secret are never revealed.[/quote]
An excellent post and an extremely intelligent poster. Im glad that GOODFORYOU sees things from this aspect.
 
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sally66
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject:    
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Good post
IMO there must be an ulterior reason for the massive PR campaign to make the public believe their innocent.
I don't think Portugal will play ball though unless there was a massive incentive as their National pride is at stake.
 
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beachy
 
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Has Gordon Brown done a deal?   
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[quote="Tiberius7"]
Those who walk the corridors of power always have the last word and they will agree with me that such a trial will be too politically sensitive.
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Tiberius, obviously there will be no trial without evidence.
Assuming such evidence exists, please gift us with your knowledge of why the trial of those responsible for the disappearance of a three-year-old child "will be too politically sensitive." I am sure we should be edified to hear it.
My personal opinion is that Gordon Brown has put his foot in it for good and all, but I think this was just stupidity on his part. If I believed for one minute that the British government was helping to cover up the disappearance and possible death of a little three-year-old girl, I swear before God, I would renounce my British citizenship tomorrow!
   
 
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GoodForYou
 
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Thank you for all your replies.
As I said, this is just a "what if" scenario and not what I believe. I am open minded as to how involved the government are. There may be a conspiracy or Brown may have been just too helpful. He may have simply got involved in the outset in the hope he could take credit if Madeleine was found and that would help his honeymoon as PM. But I feel there is probably more to it with Mitchell leaving his government post for the McCanns.
The British government are capable of recent things that should not be forgotten. Like creating one intelligence dossier and manipulating another to tell us that there was an imminent threat of attack by Iraq using weapons of mass destruction. If they can take us to war on a lie and as a result hundreds of thousands die and many more are injured, they are certainly capable of going to great lengths to cover up something that may be embarrassing to them.
Again, the papers with the exception of the Mirror followed the line of the government over Iraq without question, just as they are now with the McCann case. The Sun told front page us we were "45 minutes from Doom." 45 minutes was just a figure plucked from the air and there were no WMD. Not one person in government or in the media ever apologised. The only people who were sacked (after war had started) was the Mirror editor for standing by falsified photos of British troops supposedly brutilising Iraqis and BBC chiefs because they ran a report that the case for war had been "sexed up" which we now know to be true.
But what would be embarrassing about the McCann case? Or maybe the McCanns and the government and much of the media are linked in some way. Masons? I don't know. Why is Gerry McCann on a government advisory panel about radiation. This is not his area of expertise.Is there something that connects him to Brown or people who know Brown. If so. what is it?
 
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sanctus
 
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does the key lie in the Russians
Litvinenko
is Maddie special in anyway and the russians wanted her?
she had to disappear before falling in the wrong hands...
 
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roisin
 
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[quote="GoodForYou"]Thank you for all your replies.
As I said, this is just a "what if" scenario and not what I believe. I am open minded as to how involved the government are. There may be a conspiracy or Brown may have been just too helpful. He may have simply got involved in the outset in the hope he could take credit if Madeleine was found and that would help his honeymoon as PM. But I feel there is probably more to it with Mitchell leaving his government post for the McCanns.
The British government are capable of recent things that should not be forgotten. Like creating one intelligence dossier and manipulating another to tell us that there was an imminent threat of attack by Iraq using weapons of mass destruction. If they can take us to war on a lie and as a result hundreds of thousands die and many more are injured, they are certainly capable of going to great lengths to cover up something that may be embarrassing to them.
Again, the papers with the exception of the Mirror followed the line of the government over Iraq without question, just as they are now with the McCann case. The Sun told front page us we were "45 minutes from Doom." 45 minutes was just a figure plucked from the air and there were no WMD. Not one person in government or in the media ever apologised. The only people who were sacked (after war had started) was the Mirror editor for standing by falsified photos of British troops supposedly brutilising Iraqis and BBC chiefs because they ran a report that the case for war had been "sexed up" which we now know to be true.
But what would be embarrassing about the McCann case? Or maybe the McCanns and the government and much of the media are linked in some way. Masons? I don't know. Why is Gerry McCann on a government advisory panel about radiation. This is not his area of expertise.Is there something that connects him to Brown or people who know Brown. If so. what is it?[/quote]

I am *convinced* that the decision to "go nuclear" is behind the government's "support" to the McCanns. The British COMARE report indicated NO elevated cases of cancers and the German study proved the opposite to be true.
I think the dots can be connected and if the "NUCLEAR WEB" thread had not gotten so cumbersome your answers are ALL there.
I don't think it will be only beachy renouncing her British citizenship when this is all said and done. Branson with Brown in China talking about alternative energy sources this weekend, Branson owning Virgin Fuels, Branson stating that nuclear power is still an option, the British government pushing to have the building of nuclear power plants subbed out to the PRIVATE sector, the opponents to that idea are concerned about health risks, COMARE reports there are NO health risks, the government helps members of that committee in exchange for their help to the government.
Oh, and then there are those nice FAT contracts when the nuclear power plants are build (or existing ones rebuilt).
I'm convinced.
And there is NOBODY looking at it.
It is written off as another Kooky Conspiracy and YET it is laid out right before your eyes. Leaked memos, conversations between Prime Ministers, the Head of Media Monitoring being rushed to the scene, Branson's involvement, etc.
It is the most frightening thing I have ever seen in my life and I've researched some pretty sinister things through the years.
 
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