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M F Threads : MF-Well Done BB2002 your story has made the Daily Mail. -Nov 14 08
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From: MSN Nicknametin-lizzy  (Original Message)Sent: 1/27/2008 5:48 PM
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Well Done BB2002 your story has made the Daily Mail.  

waccy
Ain't it odd that the Mirror Forums had a scoop story courtesy of one of their own members, yet the Daily Mirror didn't run it asap though.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....ge_id=1770

Madeleine police are 'corrupt and amateur'
Last updated at 11:00am on 14th November 2007

Portuguese police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been accused of being corrupt and carrying out a flawed investigation.

The accusations are contained in a letter sent from the office of British MEP Roger Knapman to a woman who had lobbied several MEPs complaining of the damage the case was doing to UK-Portugal relations.

The letter, sent from the office of the MEP for the South-West of England, says: "The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect.

"Elements of the police are corrupt... the original police investigation was amateurish and flawed.

"It is important to realise that Portugal has no real history of citizen's rights and liberties or democracy."

It points out that Portugal became a democracy only 30 years ago.

The letter was written on Mr Knapman's behalf, by Piers Merchant, a former Tory MP who was forced to quit after his affair with a 17-year-old hostess.

He now works as an assistant to Mr Knapman at the UK Independence Party.

The national director of Portugal's Policia Judicial federation said Mr Merchant's comments were "unacceptable and irresponsible".



 
bb2002
quote="nbrado"]that main thread post from jessica.


Dear all,

The reason the posts have been removed is because they were untrue. At no time did Mr Merchant say that the previous head of the investigation had been charged with corruption, or that the police were corrupt.

I do not know how this lady BB became in possession of the e-mail saying such things, but I have a copy of the original e-mail sent to her from Mr Merchant which is different from the one she posted on this forum.

The important paragraph is:
One of the elements of this support is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. Elements of the Portuguese police and judicial system have been considered to be suspect. Indeed in this case a senior detective involved has been under investigation himself. The Portuguese judicial system operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof.

As you can see, this clearly states that he has been under investigation, rather than charged. The differences here are very important and make the different between the truth and defamation.

I hope this clears up the matter. There is no conspiracy, just the UK Independence Party preferring that people did not publish fabricated stories about them. It is unfortunate that the original post has resulted in untrue stories being published in the Portuguese press, and that Mr Merchant has been receiving abusive comments because of the actions of some people. It means a lot of extra work because of the mendacious actions of one, or a few, individuals.[/quote]

THE MAN IS A BARE-FACED LIAR!! Evil or Very Mad

SO SUE ME THEN!!!! GO AHEAD!!!!
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blackwatch

[quote="waccy"]
The important paragraph is:
One of the elements of this support is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. Elements of the Portuguese police and judicial system have been considered to be suspect. Indeed in this case a senior detective involved has been under investigation himself. The Portuguese judicial system operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof.

As you can see, this clearly states that he has been under investigation, rather than charged. The differences here are very important and make the different between the truth and defamation.[/quote]

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I thought the important paragraph was:

" Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption."

in the context of:

"One of the elements of this support is to protect British citizens against the actions of foreign governments. The Portuguese police and judicial system is known to be suspect. Elements of the police are corrupt and indeed in this case the senior detective involved has been charged with corruption. The Portuguese judicial system does not assume innocence before guilt in the way the British system does and operates an interrogatory process in which people are denounced as suspects without any proof."


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I don't think the press and the media would be taking such a huge gamble on this if they had not been in receipt of the original email.

How does Jessica respond to it being in the Daily Mail? Are they prepared to risk a defamation case on little more than hearsay too?


bb2002

Im SO SO LIVID!!!! Ive never been this angry, I,ll fight this odious little man all the way to court if I have to!!!!!
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plath

GREAT STUFF BB2 - we all know the truth. We're behind you. Go gal go


plath

One day there is going to be a fantastic book written about the entire McCann saga and it really will make some of the public unaware of what has been going on quite literally drop their mouths open.

bb hope you are ok. Long live the internet Wink


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[quote="twinkletoes1"][quote="bb2002"]Im SO SO LIVID!!!! Ive never been this angry, I,ll fight this odious little man all the way to court if I have to!!!!![/quote]

So do you reckon that he tampered with what he'd stated in the original reply to you and is claiming you've misquoted him? Easy to change an email though isn't it? Is there anyone techy here who can say whether there's a way of working out if emails have been fiddled with after being sent?[/quote]

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The original email will probably still be on the ISP servers. Especially Piers' because he used a web based yahoo email account.

People working from home using a home or web email account usually BCC sent emails to their work email address. If that's what Piers usually does, he's snookered, and if that's what he usually does and didn't do for this particular email - checkmate !
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sabot

How did Piers Merchant get the job, I would like to know?
Count down to deletion. I'll Give it Five.


LeeAnneDeVette

If the allegations of conspiracy at government levels are correct, though, I'd be extremely, extremely nervous now. You know what they're like. They make seek revenge. At a minimum, if the conspiracy allegations are correct, I suspect bb can expect about ten years of income tax audits. Politicians can be very very crafty when run afoul of. Good luck, bb! Acts of courage take years of courage in some instances, but I've no doubt after reading your posts that you're up to the job and will be well supported by all your friends here.
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