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jtexas
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject:
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Just thinking outloud here.....if they really want to question all these people....could it be there is more that one investigation going one....ie...fraud or something of the like????
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pear
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject:
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[quote="mexx"][quote="pear"]I really don't like conspiracy theories, they offend my sense of esthetics. But if THIS happens, if the McCanns accept a lesser charge, etc, nobody will be able to convince me that there wasn't something big and stinky behind all this.[/quote]
But even a lesser charge of child neglect resulting in harm, which is indusputable under Portuguese law could get them a 10 year sentence. Would their high powered lawyers really permit this?
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Yes, if that means they would be hung out to dry. (BTW, that would be coherent with K yelling "No, no, no" to youngChicken at 3 in the morning, but, of course, as G would say, it's pure speculation)
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myra2006
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: British Police want to quiz Foreign Office envoys &
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[quote="Hare"][quote="Impartial"][quote="Kazzy"]
The British Government may deny authorization for further questioning of the McCann couple, and suggest instead that formal charges are brought against them, as a way to force a quick end for the case.
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NOT GOOD......[/quote]
Can you imagine if the British police took a similar policy with every other case. Someone gets murdered, so they bring in a suspect, ask them a few questions which they refuse to answer, at which point they charge them and hope the case sticks.
It beggars belief, that this same government are suggesting we hold suspected terrorists for 42 days without charge because they need this much time to question them.
I'm a labour supporter and even I'll admit that the current government are incompetent, unfit for purpose and quite likely totally corrupt at every level, and sadly they have to go, and soon.
Although they've quite clearly interfered in the early stages of this case, they have since provided specialist services such as forensics etc, and I'd be surprised if they actively attempted to block further questioning.[/quote]
Maybe I;m incorrect but I thought FSS was an independent service and had to be paid for by the client, ie PJ......... didn;t know this service was being provided by UK government
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thentherewere4
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject:
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I know this is so boring but for those of you who didn't see this story yesterday here is some backgroud that I posted;
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject:
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[quote="mumof5"][quote="LogicMan"]Ello Ello Ello..whats all this then.....
The fall from grace was always going to be spectacular...but I have Never seen anything Rocketing toward earth as fast as this case......
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Yep and it feels good ...
I mean contaminated by cigarette ash = HOUSEHOLD CLEANING PRODUCTS = Fact. ??[/quote]
Yep, that's the bit I picked up on too “The samples we received were very small and with a high degree of contamination by house cleaning products, but we were able to get a good amount of results.�?
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Mag54"]
So, no fag ash then?
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It's been a disgrace the way Team McCann have got away with painting the Portuguese police as fat lazy slobs.
... and here we have it ... it wasn't the PJ 'buffoons' shuffling around aimlessly, flicking fag-ash all over the place, that contaminated the DNA ... it was the desperate 'cleaning up' of the McCanns that did it !
... "a 'high' degree of contamination by cleaning products" ( it conjures up a scene of them frantically rubbing away at stains, that is horribly disturbing to imagine )
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stumpy
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: British Police want to quiz Foreign Office envoys &
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[quote="myra2006"][quote="Hare"][quote="Impartial"][quote="Kazzy"]
The British Government may deny authorization for further questioning of the McCann couple, and suggest instead that formal charges are brought against them, as a way to force a quick end for the case.
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NOT GOOD......[/quote]
Why would the British Government deny authorization for further questioning? Is it because they have seen the so called questions and believe that they are of no real significance? And consequently are pointless? Also, if they did indeed suggest that formal charges are brought instead, does this mean that the British Government know that the PJ have no real evidence against the McCanns so that would indeed bring a quick end to the case.
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pear
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: British Police want to quiz Foreign Office envoys &
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[quote="stumpy"]
Why would the British Government deny authorization for further questioning? Is it because they have seen the so called questions and believe that they are of no real significance? And consequently are pointless? Also, if they did indeed suggest that formal charges are brought instead, does this mean that the British Government know that the PJ have no real evidence against the McCanns so that would indeed bring a quick end to the case.[/quote]
I believe that in the UK there is a separation and independence of powers: that would be an unaccepatble intrusion of the executive in the judicial, at least in my country.
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sans_souci
Joined: 21 Sep 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject:
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[quote="IamSpartacus"][quote="Mag54"]
So, no fag ash then?
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It's been a disgrace the way Team McCann have got away with painting the Portuguese police as fat lazy slobs.
... and here we have it ... it wasn't the PJ 'buffoons' shuffling around aimlessly, flicking fag-ash all over the place, that contaminated the DNA ... it was the desperate 'cleaning up' of the McCanns that did it !
... "a 'high' degree of contamination by cleaning products" ( it conjures up a scene of them frantically rubbing away at stains, that is horribly disturbing to imagine )[/quote]
It was more likely to be that someone authorised the reletting of the appartment, and as a consuquence the appartment would have been cleaned, but NOT by the McCanns.
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JillyComeLately
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Posts: 361
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject:
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[quote="sans_souci"][quote="IamSpartacus"][quote="Mag54"]
So, no fag ash then?
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It's been a disgrace the way Team McCann have got away with painting the Portuguese police as fat lazy slobs.
... and here we have it ... it wasn't the PJ 'buffoons' shuffling around aimlessly, flicking fag-ash all over the place, that contaminated the DNA ... it was the desperate 'cleaning up' of the McCanns that did it !
... "a 'high' degree of contamination by cleaning products" ( it conjures up a scene of them frantically rubbing away at stains, that is horribly disturbing to imagine )[/quote]
It was more likely to be that someone authorised the reletting of the appartment, and as a consuquence the appartment would have been cleaned, but NOT by the McCanns.[/quote]
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As I understand it, 5a was not relet, it was sealed as from May 4th. I believe it was the apartment that the McCanns moved to from there that was relet and subsequently sold.
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mithered
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: British Police want to quiz Foreign Office envoys &
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[quote="stumpy"][quote="myra2006"][quote="Hare"][quote="Impartial"][quote="Kazzy"]
The British Government may deny authorization for further questioning of the McCann couple, and suggest instead that formal charges are brought against them, as a way to force a quick end for the case.
[/quote]
NOT GOOD......[/quote]
Why would the British Government deny authorization for further questioning? Is it because they have seen the so called questions and believe that they are of no real significance? And consequently are pointless? Also, if they did indeed suggest that formal charges are brought instead, does this mean that the British Government know that the PJ have no real evidence against the McCanns so that would indeed bring a quick end to the case.[/quote]
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I have a horrible suspicion that the Government are going to call the
PJ's bluff and NOT sign these papers. They obviously know if there is
or isn't any evidence and are passing the buck for the PJ to charge
them. Oh God I hop I'm wrong. If Jacqui Smith doesn't sign the letters
though - knowing all the Tapas 7 indiscrepencies, etc., - there is going to
be a huge backlash against her of Government cover-up.
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stumpy
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
Posts: 372
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: British Police want to quiz Foreign Office envoys &
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[quote="pear"][quote="stumpy"]
Why would the British Government deny authorization for further questioning? Is it because they have seen the so called questions and believe that they are of no real significance? And consequently are pointless? Also, if they did indeed suggest that formal charges are brought instead, does this mean that the British Government know that the PJ have no real evidence against the McCanns so that would indeed bring a quick end to the case.[/quote]
I believe that in the UK there is a separation and independence of powers: that would be an unaccepatble intrusion of the executive in the judicial, at least in my country.[/quote]
Yes, I agree. But what if the British Government are being advised by another organisation, say for instance the Police. That is not beyond the relams of possibility. I am sure (maybe im wrong) that the British Government is getting advice from somewhere on this particular matter??
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Blamhappy
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:
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There IS evidence! Loads of it.
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TiredOfTheBS
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 487
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Blamhappy"]I'd be happy enough for them to go down for manslaughter. That would be enough justice for me! I'd be worried that, without more questioning, the case for manslaughter would be weaker than the optinum.
I'm still hoping for the discovery of the body.[/quote]
But if they admit manslaughter then that is an automatic admission to hiding a body, fraud, falsely reporting a crime etc.
That would definitely be enough justice for me.
If they serve any less than ten years then it is an absolute travesty,
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:
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[quote="IamSpartacus"][quote="Mag54"]
So, no fag ash then?
.................................................................................................................................
It's been a disgrace the way Team McCann have got away with painting the Portuguese police as fat lazy slobs.
... and here we have it ... it wasn't the PJ 'buffoons' shuffling around aimlessly, flicking fag-ash all over the place, that contaminated the DNA ... it was the desperate 'cleaning up' of the McCanns that did it !
... "a 'high' degree of contamination by cleaning products" ( it conjures up a scene of them frantically rubbing away at stains, that is horribly disturbing to imagine )[/quote]
Sometimes with this case there are some things that make you want to laugh out loud or scream with frustration.....they will say anything to discredit the PJ and any of the forensic evidence. Let's hope there is movement in this now and closure for Madeleine to be put to rest.
This whole charade is shameful, how can the McC's or any of the Tapas7 sleep at night......'you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free' has never sounded so right as it does with this case. So, come on all of you who know the truth, speak up now!
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