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From: MSN Nicknametin-lizzy  (Original Message)Sent: 1/31/2008 12:29 PM

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Police Do Not Suspect McCanns: Parents' Spokesman

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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:18 pm 

Hi all,

Just wanted to share an article that takes on a different perspective. Thanks for reading!


Police do not suspect McCanns: parents' spokesman
Police do not suspect McCanns: parents' spokesman 2 hours, 54 minutes ago



LONDON (AFP) - Police do not suspect the parents of missing toddler Madeleine McCann were involved in her disappearance, the couple's spokesman said on Wednesday.

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During a debate on media coverage of the child's disappearance, Clarence Mitchell told a packed theatre at the London School of Economics that officials, whom he did not identify, had told him in private briefings that the case was being treated as a "rare stranger abduction".

"I have also had briefings privately from the police and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it," he said.

Madeleine McCann went missing from the resort of Praia da Luz in Portugal's Algarve region last May, and her parents, Gerry and Kate, launched a high-profile international campaign to find her after she vanished from their holiday apartment shortly before her fourth birthday.

They were named as formal suspects in the case by Portuguese police in September but returned to their home in Britain shortly afterwards.

Earlier this month, they urged a worldwide search for someone they believe could provide a link to the girl's disappearance, releasing detailed images of the man who was seen by a British witness close to where Madeleine went missing.



beachy

(1) Did anyone think that Clarence Mitchell would get up in a public meeting and say, "Yes, in talks with British police, they have told me that they believe the McCanns are guilty and that the EAW for their arrest can probably be expected before summer," even if that were the case?

(2) It does not make a tinker's damn what the British police and child protection services think. The only thing that matters is what the PORTUGUESE PJ and prosecutor's office think. THEY are the ones sitting there in possession of the evidence. Everyone else, including the British police, child protection services, and Clarence Mitchell, is merely guessing.

(3) If a British policeman actually told Clarence Mitchell this, in my opinion it is highly irregular, and the officer, whoever he/she is, should be reprimanded. One does not go about making comments about the guilt or innocence of formally-named suspects in someone else's case to spokespersons for said suspects, knowing that such comments will surely become public. A complaint to the police about this is in order, methinks.

(4) Clarence was correct about one thing, though: "Rare" is indeed the correct word to describe stranger abductions. According to statistics published by the Home Office, someone connected to the child - parents, other relatives, caretakers, or friends - are involved in more than 90% of child abduction cases.



DrachenSachen

What, in affect, Clarence is trying to do be issuing the statement that the British police do not suspect the McCann's is to protect the McCann's reputations in anyway he can by having the general public falsely believe that in the eyes of the law in Britain the McCann's are "squeaky clean" and therefore innocent. What Clarence fails to recognise is that the Portuguese police are in charge of the official criminal investigation and its what the Portuguese police believe that matters in this case not the British police. This is all about saving the McCann's reputations so they can lead a normal life as if nothing had ever happened just like they planned to do by faking an abduction and is tantermount to perverting the course of justice. If the British police do not suspect the McCann's why have we not heard this claim from the horses mouth, i.e. from an official British police source?? Come on Clarence lets see if you can get an official British police officer involved in the case to come out in front of the cameras and back up your claims that they do not suspect the McCann's. I bet he can't cos its nothing but another lie aimed at protecting the McCann's reputations isn't it unless the British police are actually letting Clarence Mitchell pervert the course of justice deliberately as a way of saying (unofficially) we do not suspect the McCann's.

So what do you think?? Is Clarence lying about the British police not suspecting the McCann's or do you reckon he is telling the the truth because the British police are actually letting him pervert the course of justice by unofficially saying that they do not suspect the McCann's?



AnaMaria

I've posted this on another thread as well.

Well, maybe the police in England do believe this. And since there is no "secrecy law" in England they are allowed to express their own views to the suspects, as these particular suspects are not officially suspects in England. Only in Portugal. That's the only explanation I have for this. If that's not the case, then the British police should deny this statement, as it may hinder the cooperation Portuguese/British police.



GoodForYou




Maybe it was the same source that Gerry McCann reckoned said their behavior was "within the boundaries of good parenting."

I expect "private briefings" means one person has told him things. I doubt he is able or willing to name his source. That source would not be representing the police.

I therefore expect he is talking out of his backside as usual. Why weren't the polce at his hoax conference for Cooperman if they think the abductor is out there?

Don't forget that British police have been working closely with Portuguse police including the dog handlers.

Are we supposed to conclude that the police have no confidence in their dogs?


Leaser

What is that phrase

"ADVERTISEMENT" underneath the heading of the article. Was the paper paid to run an advert?



JillyComeLately

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I've emailed the Police Standards Department of Leicestershire Constabulary, questioning Mitchell's public claim that he was briefed by the police of the McCann's innocence -

http://www.leics.police.uk/contact/8_co ... epartment/

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enlightenus

I think it reasonable to ask the police to make a formal statement at a press conference backing up that claim. It would help K anf G. Obviously Clarence would not have said that if it were not true so I am sure they will be happy to back him. Anyone writing to Leics police?

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polly2

Is this in the papers today?, I say it running as "latest News" last night, but it doesn't seem to be headline news this morning. Have I missed it, is it there somewhere?


Miss Take

"I have also had briefings privately from the police and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it,"

Briefings are given from one police authority to the other. Spin doctors do not get 'briefings' only press releases. Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre have what to do with this case? Surely they will only get involved if it were proved that Maddie were either exploited or subject to vulnerability online? This is not the case. It's like a shoplifter having reassurance that they are not being investigated for War Crimes, it makes no sense.

Interesting though that he has 'briefings' from the police. Although, the British Police are not investigating the case, they are aiding the investigation and that is all. It's not their place to to 'treat' the case as anything, only provide the PJ with the assistance needed.

In other words, Clarrie has produced a lot of meaningless twaddle in the name of spin. Are we surprised?
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pike1



I mentioned this in the l.s.e thread.I have had early morning tv and radio on normally the ones that champion the McCanns as "saints" and who would be jumping up and down to comment and report on this if it were true!!!

Not a sausage.....nor in the review of the papers....Hmmm-wonder why.....?

Bold claim by Clarence last night but no-one else seems to agree with it and it`s not newsworthy..... :roll:



JimTommo

It's nonsense. Everybody knows it's nonsense. Including Clarence. Clarence is a classic study in style over substance. he really thinks he can say anything in an authoritative way and everybody will believe it. He's wrong.

For me what really crystallised this case is the responses made by Team McCann to 'unsubstantiated' reports of cadaver scent on Kate, the car etc... and Madeleine's DNA in the car. These things were never denied by Team McCann only glible explained away. We all know how poor the explanations were and it's clear the cadaver scent and Madeleine's DNA are real. Madeleine is dead.


sally66

polly 2 - It's on the Sky ticker this morning but I haven't gone into the interactive so not sure if it's there but probably will be



Aradia

Sky have definatly reported it about 5/10 mins ago.




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From: MSN Nicknametin-lizzySent: 1/31/2008 12:48 PM
Amacada
I think CM may have been misquoted.

Surely he said "Please don't suspect the McCanns".


shadowplay
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Oh come on!
The British police have no authority over this case, as has been pointed out before.
We haven't believed a word he's said all this time, why start now?
Methinks the lady dost protest too much.


 
T4two
Went into my homepage and found Mccann's face scowling at me :shock:

http://tinyurl.com/ysngng

Well, Clary is criticising the press for 'sloppy reporting'. IMO what he's trying to do is create the impression that it is the media's sloppy reporting that is to be blamed for his clients' status of suspects. Since the British media have only been regurgitating the crap that Clarry has been throwing at them I would agree with him 100% about the sloppy reporting, but that of course is not the reason for the McCanns being suspects.
The assertation that the British police and online child protection agency do not consider the McCanns to be suspects is an obvious ploy; as usual he's fishing for information using the tactic of 'make a statement which is untrue and wait and see if you get a denial.' If you don't get a denial, assume for the future that it is fact - if you do get a denial, well, you've at least found out how the cards are stacked. Unfortunately this is a criminal investigation and Clarry is still treating it like a political campaign. What it does show IMO however is that the McCann camp are desperate for information - so the Portuguese secrecy laws would appear to be working well.


Shadow
Clarrie states that 'The Police do not suspect the McCanns' - that's a sweeping statement to make.

But, there may be just a grain of truth there - he could mean the police officer who is helping his son run the official website
and shop. 8)


Carina R
Well if this is indeed true, do they perhaps suspect them of neglecting their children? One must in a case of rare abduction remember that the kids were left totally unattended and unsafe. One got lost mr Clarrie. Did the child then got lost while the parents did not watch for a minute, or because they left them unattended and unsafe for various timespans. No, which ever way we look at it, they did not look properly after their kids. One got lost/ disappeared / whatever through their carelessness. These people are not up to standard with their parenting. I do not think the twins are safe in their care at all.


bonnybraes1
I feel he's twisting the truth - no surprise. The official British police postion will be neutral - so Clarrie can say they don't suspect the McScamms without actually llying. Anyway, as long as the PJ and the Portuguese authorities suspect the whole scummy lot of them, I'm happy.


ophelia
Justice for Madeleine website has a good explanation of so called police support.


Meadow
CM - is not objective, he has lost the plot and is TOO involved.

I see Justine McG is now part of the Fund management, so presume this is like her rubber stamping CM's beliefs.

Think CM tries too hard.

writer lynn
Perhaps we could get a police response to confirm or deny this claim. I wonder if it's an offence to misquote the police stance?


margaret
Clarrie's talking a crock of crap as usual, l'd bet my life savings the police DO suspect the McCanns along with the PJ and the vast majority of us.

Since when do suspects run their own police investigations? It's never happened and never will, the police don't jump to anyones tune so Clarrie can say what he likes can't he? THe police won't answer back yet.....

The man SERIOUSLY winds me up :twisted: l really hope no-one wants to employ the worst PR man in history (when this is over) - but no matter how big a fool he looks then and the McCanns are rotting in jail he'll be hawking his lucrative book and making millions :twisted:


Scribbler
I've read in several reports over recent weeks that British police concur with Portuguese police and think their investigation is going in the right direction. In other words they DO suspect the parents!


paralipsis
The McCanns remain official suspects in this case.

Clarence Mitchell is paid to work as their PR man therefore he is hardly going to spend his time pointing out the inconsistencies and contradictions of their story! The people I know who mention the McCanns now see Clarence Mitchell as a figure of fun. He was helpful to the McCanns when he first arrived, but the veneer he gives things doesn't half pong now!


Scribbler
I've even heard it suggested that Clarence Mitchell is not really on the McCanns' side but by doing such a poor job of their "PR" is actually deliberately working against them.
 

JimH
I just popped into my local café to see the East Anglian Daily Times proclaim (on an inside page) that "UK Police do not suspect the McCanns". You have to give Clarence some credit - he is very good at getting headlines favourable to this client in the UK press.

I do have the feeling that his real strategy is to create a tremendous public backlash when the McCanns are finally arrested. So even if they are sent for trial, he hopes they can save face because the UK public has been prepared to believe the Portuguese are lazy, incompetent, corrupt etc and there isn't a shred of evidence against the holy couple!


the slave
I've just emailed the police.
I want to know how clarrie is getting away with this.


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Getting away with what? Using his right to free speech while not being libellous? If there is a legal issue regarding this (which i doubt) it is the source not CM that would be answerable.