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Sick passenger taken from airplane to East Surrey Hospital in an ambulance. Hand luggage probably stayed with the sick passenger and wasn't scanned or inspected on arrival.Sick passenger taken by ambulance from the plane to East Surrey A&E.If Gerry planted the bag containing Madeleines body into the ambulance as the sick patients hand luiggage Madeleine was now back in the UK.It could be possible Gerry knew the sick passenger before hand and the sickness was a ploy for what was about to take place. Alot was yet to happen that same day.
From The Times 21 June 2007
"Mr McCann’s wallet was snatched at a cash machine during a 24-hour trip to Britain. Madeleine’s grandmother, Susan Healey, said that irreplaceable pictures of the missing four-year-old, who was abducted in Portugal 49 days ago, were in the wallet.
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The theft came shortly after Mr McCann helped to treat a fellow passenger who had collapsed on his flight to London, where he was interviewing people for the job of co-ordinating the campaign to find his daughter. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The report I heard on BBCNEWS 24 was that the wallet was discovered to be missing in the vicinity of Downing Street not snatched at a cash machine.
...and in case you're wondering about the sex of the individual who Gerry helped on the plane,this is from the same report;
"Mr McCann, a consultant cardiologist, was on an early flight from Faro in Portugal when the crew appealed for anyone with medical training to help a man who had become ill"
A man.
Gerrys blog recalled the episode on the Find Madeleine website:
“Helped a passenger on the flight who collapsed. He was ill enough to require a full assessment on arrival and went off to hospital in an ambulance.�?BR> Gerrys wallet was also stolen here at this location;
The Telegraph 02.07.2007
"The family had issued an appeal for their return after Mr McCann's wallet was taken by a pickpocket in Waterloo station hours after he arrived in the capital for a series of meetings about his global campaign to find his daughter. "
This is the THIRD reported location that Gerrys wallet was stolen in.
But now we're not so sure anyway see here;
Thisislondon 21.06.07
"Susan Healey, mother of his wife Kate, said "Gerry is not clear exactly how his wallet was stolen.
"He did not see them take it. It contained precious photographs which have now been lost forever.""
...And just to make sure the attention stays where it's directed Aunty Philo throws in her Twopence worth
Thisislondon 21.06.07
Mr McCann's sister, Philomena McCann, branded the thief a "dirty animal".
She said: "Gerry was at the bank to get some British currency, because he didn't have any at all.
"He took out £100 from a hole in the wall machine, put it in his wallet then popped it in his back pocket.
"He bent down to put something in his rucksack and some dirty animal had the wallet out of his back pocket.
"We don't care about the money, but we do care about getting the pictures of Madeleine back.
"There were three pictures, special ones that Gerry always kept with him, showing Madeleine and the twins.
"They were his favourites, really treasured pictures. How can you do that to someone who's been through what he has?
"He's already demoralised enough and to be put on the back foot like this, you can't believe some people can stoop so low.
"He's desperate to get them back. He's not bothered about the money. He'd just like whoever stole them to hand them back because they're precious to him.
"The whole family have been overwhelmed by the support and affection from all around the world, but it takes just one rotten apple to bring you down.
"I hope whoever took the wallet is so ashamed when they realise what they've done that they get those pictures back to us as soon as possible."" -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aunty Philo always did have a vivid imagination you'd almost think she was there and witnessed the "Theft "herself wouldn't you ?
The reported facts are puzzling.This happened in the center of London not a million miles from the base of the UK media empires,not in some out of the way African village,the centre of a capital city,on the very doorstep of Scotland Yard,with a man whose face is instantly recognisable Gerry was probably more recognisable at that time than the Health Secretary or the minister for the enviroment to most people in the street.
The theft was reported as a loss.
The theft was reported as a theft.
The thief was seen.
The thief didn't exist.
The thief was an animal.
Gerry was at a cashpoint.
Gerry was in Waterloo.
Gerry was in the vicinity of Downing Street.
Gerry didn't see the thief.
Aunty Philo has a description.
Gerry doesn't know how it happened.
Ma Healy is puzzled too.
SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
The return of the wallet was logical. This was no theft but Gerry had to explain how come he no longer had his wallet having mislaid it in the bag with Madeleines body which was switched on arrival into the sick passengers hand luggage and WHOOSHED away,so he invented this story and it worked. The wallet had to come back annomously and sure enough it did with a token theft of thirty quid or so.....and Madeleines body was back in the UK. Last edited by thentherewere4 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:48 pm, edited 12 times in total. The postmark on the letter returning the wallet was dated the same as the day it was stolen. 1.The thief bought stamps and an envelope to return the wallet. 2.The thief had no use for Euros which you can exchange in any bureau de change in central London,or indeed are accepted by most shops in the West End...(ask my kids !) 3.The thief was organised.Today to send a weighty package ie.not a letter, the package has to be weighed and placed into an envelope of the correct size with the correct postage paid.This invaribly involves a trip to the local Post Office weighing the item and the purchase of the correct value stamps and perhaps even an envelope. 4.The thief was considerate.Too little postage and the package isn't delivered unless the receipient goes to the local sorting office and pays the difference,too much and the package is taken out of the automatic sorting system for manual evaluation and this can add up to 3 days to the delivery of the package.The thief having gone to the Post Office must have checked that the correct postage was applied and as we know that the package was postmarked the same day as the theft this implies the thief was acting with haste and out of consideration for Gerrys inconvienence of being without his wallet. To demonstrate the complexity of sending an unusual package through the UK Postal System here is a news report on how to assess the correct postage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5269060.stmFor those of you who would rather have a quick guide without the entire article here is a snappy little graphic which is self explanatory; http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 ... 16x273.gifDO bear in mind though that the weight of the item applys as well.Hrere is the table; A.Letter: Max size - 240mm long, 165mm wide, 5mm deep; max weight - 100g; cost - 32p (1st class) or 23p (2nd class) B.Large letter: Max size - 353mm long, 250mm wide, 25mm deep; max weight - 750g; cost - 44p- £1.31 (1st class); 37p-£1.09 (2nd) C.Packet: Anything over 353mm long, OR 250mm wide, OR 25mm thick OR 750g in weight; cost - £1.00 to £4.74 (+85p per 250g above 1.25kg) or 84p-£2.12 (2nd) Last edited by thentherewere4 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:57 pm, edited 4 times in total. Protocol for passengers who are sick in flight. Part One.
Sick people ARE allowed to fly. It depends, obviously, on the severity of their condition. Aircraft cabins are pressurised to about 8-10,000 ft, so the oxygen levels are lower that an ground level - it's like being up a mountain.
The cabin crew are (or should be) made aware of any pre-existing conditions. If the condition is potentially "dodgy", a doctor's letter is usually required to confirm that they consider them well enough to fly. Apart from anything, for travel insurance reasons.
It's not unusual for people to become a little ill in-flight. The crew are all 1st aid trained and O2 is carried which the crew can administer.
Only in extreme cases would the crew make a pa to request a medical doctor's assistance, in case there happens to be one on board. If they do, the person claiming to be a doctor needs to show proof of that before they are allowed to step in.
Would the crew have access to the pasenger list to see if there is a doctor on board ?
Yes.
It would give the name as Dr. somebody. However it would not specify what they are a Dr of. The crew would need to establish that the person is definitely a doctor of MEDICINE - the title "Dr" could relate to many specialisms and just indicates that someone has completed a PhD at university. Could be one of very many subjects.
It is rare for the crew to make an announcement to request any docs of medicine on board. If the crew asks for a docs help and the doc screws up - the crew are drawn into any legal wranglings that may follow. They would need to be fairly confident that the doc had not been drinking alcohol and would need their id to record all details of the doc concerned. It would have to be agreed by the capt that a call for a med doc should be made and this would only been done in extreme circs.
On the other hand a med doc can OFFER his assistance if he felt it necessary and was aware of the situation that was unfolding. This is preferable in a legal sense, however id and confirmation of their status would still be required and logged on the flight records.
It's not THAT uncommon for paramedics to meet a plane on arrival to take a look at a passenger who was very ill in flight.
A passenger being treated with oxygen would ALWAYS have a cabin crew member with them at all times, including during landing.
Acknowledgements; I_Should_Coco. Last edited by thentherewere4 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:31 pm, edited 1 time in total. Protocol for passengers who are sick in flight. Part Two.
On landing it is therefore likely that a crew member, 2 paramedics, Gerry, the sick patient,his handluggage and oxygen all had to exit the plane together to escort the sick passenger into the ambulance.
A bag switch would have been childs play.I am indebted to a fellow poster who wishes to remain anonymous who has given me a real life emergency that she and her husband went through recently returning on a flight from London to Dublin in the UK.
"My husband was taken ill on a flght from London to Dublin several years ago and ended up in hospital there as they suspected a heart attack initially-turned out to be angina attack and overuse of GTN spay at altitude. In spite of the fact he was so poorly the cabin crew dealt with it themselves and having family in the airline industry pilots etc I understand that only in dire circumstances do they ask for a doctor.My point of writing this is that at no time were we alone from the minute husband fell ill to the minute we arrived at the hospital. Our luggage was in the hold and taken off the plane by airport staff and put into the waiting ambulance by them.Paramedics met the plane in an ambulance and we had a police escort to the hospital."
A doctor wasn't available on that flight and the crew took control of the situation.On Gerrys flight of course it was a different story.Gerry was asked for and put in control and would have supervised the patient in place of the crew,who could return to their usual inflight duties. On arrival their luggage was removed from the hold and put into the ambulance for onward transfer to the hospital with police escort. It's speculation that in this instance in the confusion created and the number of people involved Gerry was able to disembark the plane within the hubris created and it might simply have been a case of the stewardess asking him "Are these your bags?" and Gerry replying, "This one is mine and that one is his,shall I take it down to the ambulance as awell?" In this posters desription of events the bags were removed from the hold and simply loaded into the ambulance for onward transportation,bearing in mind that Gerry was probably aware of the stooges name as he had set it up Gerry could even have tagged the "special bag" with the stooges details and luggage handlers would have done the swap for him. Last edited by thentherewere4 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:55 pm, edited 5 times in total. Aunty Philo who has an opinion on everything Mccann said this to The Times about Gerrys inflight heroics ;
"Mr McCann had been typically modest about the help he provided. Gerry spends his life looking after other people so in a situation like that, you just go into your natural modus operandi and help. It's what you're trained to do, it's who you are. He didn't make a big deal out of it because it's the kind of thing that he does all the time at work"
Strange use of that phrase "modus operandi".It doesn't make any sense.
Here's the Wiki interpretation;
Modus operandi ("often used in the abbreviated forms M.O. or simply Method) is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "mode of operation. It is used in law enforcement to describe a criminal's characteristic patterns and style of committing crimes. It is also applied in fraud investigation when talking about behavior patterns that indicate specific types of fraud.
Unless she's using it because it does make sense to her of course. |
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ere4 wrote: UTV; TUESDAY 19/06/2007 Gerry McCann in England to organise campaign to find Madeleine
"The father of Madeleine McCann returned to the UK today for the second time since his daughter was kidnapped 47 days ago. Gerry McCann flew from Faro in the Algarve to London`s Gatwick Airport this morning and travelled to the capital for a series of meetings about the campaign to find the four-year-old." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CAN ANYONE PLEASE SUPPLY ANY PICTURE LINKS AT ALL FOR THIS TRIP PLEASE ?
PM Thank you. You have set a real challenge here. I haven't found any photos of the trip so far (and I don't recall any!) Now, I don't know what time he left for Faro but these 3 photographs are dated 19th June Parents of Missing Child Madeleine McCann, Gerry and Kate McCann - June 19, 2007 6/19/2007 - Algarve, Portugal http://tinyurl.com/22jg9d (PR Photos) |
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