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General : QOTD Monday 9-22-08
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From: MSN NicknameVietnamFatCat  (Original Message)Sent: 9/22/2008 1:37 PM
If it were in your power, whom would you not allow to own a gun?


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From: MSN NicknameVietnamFatCatSent: 9/22/2008 2:28 PM
Anyone failing to exhibit proper responsibility, regardless of age and people convicted of using firearms in criminal activities (murder, armed robbery, etc...)!

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 Message 3 of 9 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameColin6686Sent: 9/22/2008 2:55 PM
Thise already cited plus anyone who attempted suicide or had been judged mentally unsound.

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From: MSN NicknameriverChief6572Sent: 9/22/2008 7:56 PM
Colin
 
i gotta kinda sorta disagree
 
in years past when things were going very bad for me
 
and i was fighting the va for my life
 
i comtemplated suicide
 
but i couldnt do it
 
even got to the point of putting the barrel of my .357 in my mouth
 
obviously i didnt do it
 
but i came close
 
i finally realized it was a cowards way
 
and that brought me around
 
plus i thought of what my father would think of me
 
that helped

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 Message 5 of 9 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCat-TNSent: 9/23/2008 2:26 AM
I gotta agree with DJ on this one.

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From: MSN NicknameLittlecherokee1970Sent: 9/23/2008 11:56 AM
I have to agree with DJ .

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 9/23/2008 2:44 PM
Who sould not own a gun? 
 
1.  Anyone who does not want to own one.
 
2.  EGGs (evil gun-grabbers).  Let the EGGs be the victims of the muggers, robbers, rapists, and murderers.  The rest of us will take care of ourselves.

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From: MSN NicknameColin6686Sent: 9/23/2008 3:00 PM
RiverChief,  not wanting to be overly inquisitive here, but was the VA aware of the suicidal tendency at that time?  The fact that you could not do it, to me, shows you considered it but would never do it.  It is the person who WOULD do it that I am only addressing.  Whether the psychiatric field can distinguish who would and who would only contemplate the act is unclear and I do NOT wish to see the rights of a rational thinking person infringed upon.
 
I know there have been many times I contemplated suicide to remove the guilt feelings brought on when I see the faces of the people caught in the crosshairs before squeezing the trigger.  Those memories will never go away and on some days they are worse while on others I rationalize them to the point where it is not a problem.  I imagine it is much the same for most of us and the opportunity to sometimes get it out of our system is the best medicine because here, people can understand.

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From: MSN NicknameriverChief6572Sent: 9/23/2008 4:52 PM
Colin
 
i was first diagnosed with ptsd in 1970 when they called in "the vietnam syndrome"
 
that was just after my second tour (swift boats)
 
i medicated myself with booze
 
same as i do now
 
but now the big difference is that i can sleep
 
its amazing how much difference that makes
 
and im on "social" pills (paxil) that makes me somewhat normal (sic)
 
the va never knew that i thought about suicide
 
and still doesnt
 
they are treating
 
my social problems
 
my not being able to sleep
 
being hyperactive when startled
 
not trusting almost anyone but combat vets
 
sweats
 
you know the drill
 
the fight with the va took 13 years
 
and i finally got there by going to my pro vet congressman
 
who couldnt figure out why the va was giving me problems
 
when i have a chest full of combat medals including ph
 
and you know i never see the faces of those i killed
 
just the faces of my buddies and friends that died

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