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Politic-Election : Meet Joe "Beretta" Biden on Gun Rights
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From: MasterGunner01  (Original Message)Sent: 9/21/2008 3:16 PM
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Meet Joe “Beretta” Biden: “If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s (Obama) got a problem.” Real problem is Biden’s horrible record on protecting the rights of gun owners.

By Mike Francesca, September 21st, 2008 · www.mikefrancesa.com

Old Uncle Joey is at it again:

“I guarantee you, Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns. So don’t buy that malarkey,” Mr. Biden said. “They’re going to start peddling that to you.”

Jake Tapper, at ABC News’s “Political Punch” blog fleshes out the Bidenisms, with this elaboration about the senator’s own penchant for “clinging” to his guns: “I got two,” Mr. Biden told the crowd, referring to his arms and then to Mr. Obama. “If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I’m not bad with it.”

But we have a problem with Joe Biden’s record on protecting the rights of gun ownership in this country. I believe he has one of the worst ratings when it comes to protecting the rights of gun owners. He also has a past history of anti gun legislation and statements. Here is Joe Biden on legislation that would ban the sale of military style weapons:

But Senate supporters of the measure said they would apply whatever pressures they can muster on the House and called on constituents to write and call their representatives. “The House better understand the power of an idea whose time has come,” said Senator Joseph R. Biden, the Delaware Democrat who heads the Judiciary Committee. “It still will be an uphill fight in the House, but I think the wave is moving.”

Here is Biden mocking what the Republican party stands for:

Still, a knot of legislators stalled the bill’s progress for weeks. “On this issue, the Republicans are under the control of the National Rifle Association,” said George Mitchell, the Senate majority leader. Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware said that the politics were simple: “Guns, guns, guns, guns.”

Here is Joe Biden dodging a debate question in 2007 about gun ownership:

If you watched the debate, you may remember Senator Joe Biden’s response to one of the YouTube questioners who asked — while clutching a semiautomatic rifle — whether the candidates support gun-ownership: “I don’t know that he is mentally qualified to own that gun. I’m being serious,” Mr. Biden said. The Los Angeles Times gets some reaction from the man who asked the question.

Here is more from that exchange:

Townsend, a 30-year-old from Clio, Mich., came next to last among the amateur inquisitors in the CNN/YouTube debate. But he made an indelible impression by asking the candidates if they would protect his “baby” – the Bushmaster AR-15 semiautomatic rifle he cradled in his arms.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson gave a standard answer about the need to improve screening of gun applicants. But Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, who said that he sponsored an assault weapons ban, was not so sanguine.

“I’ll tell you what, if that’s his baby, he needs help,” Biden said of Townsend. “I don’t know that he is mentally qualified to own that gun. I’m being serious.”

Many in the audience at The Citadel military college in Charleston, S.C., laughed and applauded. But the response in Townsend’s home and among gun enthusiasts was considerably more chilly.

Townsend called the Biden response “kind of off-kilter,” adding: “I think he hurt himself. A lot of people who are out there said, ‘We are all gun owners. He lost my vote.’ ”

Townsend picked up his interest in guns from his father. He said he used the rifle for target practice and to hunt for coyotes on Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Townsend uses a 10- or 20-round clip, saying that a 100-round clip is too expensive.

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Again you have to love how Joe Biden has to add, “I’m being serious”.

OK, we admit that was a rare moment when Joe Biden was funny. Although we are not sure that Biden or anyone should be judging who is mentally stable enough to own a gun.
Here is more of Biden’s record on guns:

Joe Biden, the running mate of Barack Obama, is one of the most anti gun rights politicians in Government:

The Brady Campaign endorses Joe Biden, saying, “Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign,” and “a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994″

Biden introduced an “assault weapons” ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, Biden’s Senate Bill 1970 proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as “assault weapons,” and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, BATF) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as “additional assault weapons.”

Biden was instrumental in the passage of the 1994 Clinton gun and magazine ban. Biden reiterated his support for the ban—and, in fact, took credit for authoring it—in response to a question at the CNN & YouTube debate earlier this year. Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993, and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.” He also included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year, along with gun show restrictions.

Joe Biden’s S. 2237 proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.

Biden voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. He also refused to sign the Congressional brief in Heller, and voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled in favor of the Second Amendment in Heller, yet he voted to confirm all four justices who voted against the Second Amendment in that case.

Simply put, Biden and Obama may very well be the most anti gun candidates this country has ever seen.

Joe Biden gets an F rating from the NRA.

More quotes to follow.

Interesting info on Barack Obama and his hypocrisy on guns:

But this is not new. Mr. Obama has a long history of supporting city gun bans. The Associated Press described his 2004 vote on a gun control bill: “He also opposed letting people use a self-defense argument if charged with violating local handgun bans by using weapons in their homes. The bill was a reaction to a Chicago-area man who, after shooting an intruder, was charged with a handgun violation.”

A candidate questionnaire shows that Mr. Obama supported a ban on handguns in 1996. In 1998, he backed a ban on the sale of all semiautomatic guns (a ban that would encompass the vast majority of guns sold in the U.S.) In 2004, he advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park (essentially a ban on all guns sold in almost all the states). Possibly, even more importantly, he served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, probably the largest private funder of anti-gun and pro-ban groups and research in the country.

The Obama campaign “flatly denied” the 1996 statement supporting a ban on handguns, blaming it instead on a staffer from his state senate race who they said had incorrectly filled out the candidate questionnaire. But the Politico obtained a copy of the statement and found Mr. Obama’s own handwritten notes on it indicating that he had personally checked and corrected answers.

His newfound support for gun ownership raises serious questions; not only where he stands on the gun issue, but also how trustworthy he is.

We have this gem from Joe Biden in November of 2007:

Biden is preparing to introduce legislation to renew the assault weapons ban that was enacted under president Clinton and that expired in 2004.

“Only people with good character and good conduct have the right to own guns,” Biden said during an interview with the Register.

And who may I ask is going to be the judge of good character and conduct?



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