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From: MSN Nicknameﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﺼ  in response to Message 1Sent: 7/8/2007 6:18 AM


Alpha Antics: A question of Health & submissiveness 

Dear Blossom:

As you can see by the comments in this Group there are numerous other people who do not care for the posturing and antics of the Alphas.  In another person's Group you saw an entirely different group of people exposing the deplorable ways people are treated by the Alphas.  In short, you are not the first to be treated so poorly by them nor will you be the last �?in other words, you are not alone.

As I said before, the attempt by the Alphas to concoct a “clinical analysis�?to portray you as being  psychologically unfit is an illegal, repugnant, and dangerous sham conducted by two individuals who lack clinical backgrounds or credentials.  On the bright side, the findings of knowledgeable, credentialed, and credible clinicians may actually be good news for you and the many others who have been threatened, demeaned, and banished by the Alphas. 

Culled from the writings and the chat room behavior displayed by self-professed Alpha submissives, a growing body of knowledge reveals personality characteristics that may qualify them as “unhealthy submissives�?based on criteria put forth by Dr. Gloria Brame, author of Different Loving, (1996); and Yaldah Tovah, M.D., author of The Healthy Submissive (2000).  Tovah further suggests that some of their characteristics may be symptomatic of even more severe, clinical issues as well as not being submissives at all.
 
These characteristics and resulting behavior include what appear to be the inability and/or unwillingness of Alpha submissives to:

  • outgrow the emotional residue of their upbringing as well as other emotional damage from their past;

  • recognize and change patterns of behavior that are self-destructive as well as damaging to others;

  • accept responsibility for their behavior rather than blaming others, conjuring up excuses  and perceiving themselves as victims;

  • learn and practice healthy conflict resolution skills;

  • cease the narcissistic and histrionic behavior marked by episodes of acting-out along a continuum of emotional responses spanning intense, uncontrollable rage to the appearance of complete emotional impotence;

  • discontinue cycles of grandiosely overvaluing others only to severely devalue and diminish them due to their disappointment and rejection rather than developing mutually satisfying relationships; and

  • stop meeting their needs by trying to manipulate others rather than doing what is necessary to become a self-sufficient and self-fulfilling human being.

Not only does Tovah caution that these characteristics may fit the clinical criteria for a borderline personality disorder but also may describe an individual who simply “is not submissive�?(Tovah, 2000).  While some might argue that Tovah is being too extreme there is an interesting and inescapable fact that should not be overlooked.  Neither Tovah or Brame had personal awareness of the skewed Alpha submissive concept when they wrote their articles and, therefore, could not possibly have had an axe to grind with them.

Both Tovah and Brame possess terminal clinical credentials and are abundantly knowledgeable of “the Lifestyle.�?nbsp; Coupled with their impartiality, their perspectives on the behavior traits Alpha submissives demonstrate and acknowledge has a far higher level of credibility than the “amateur night psychology�?you were targeted with.  In essence, these were the actions of individuals who, based on the criteria cited by Brame and Tovah, reflect symptoms of people who lack healthy personalities, manifest serious personal dysfunction, and possess a paucity of ability to be submissive.  

There is a profound irony to consider in all of this.  The Alpha submissive who directed this attack against you and is most infamous for personifying these unhealthy traits and dysfunctional behavior has proclaimed that individuals with these problems do not belong on-line nor in “the Lifestyle.�?nbsp; Perched and cackling in the mythological Home of the Alphas, perhaps it is time to take heed of the adage that people who live in glass houses should be cautious about throwing stones.


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