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From: MSN NicknameZelfrieda1  (Original Message)Sent: 11/4/2008 5:07 PM

Rove Calls it for Obama: 338-200 Electoral Blowout

November 04, 2008 11:53 AM

Karl "Permanent Republican Majority" Rove is wrong quite often -- remember "the math" in 2006? -- so Obama supporters should take his final map with that in mind.

That said, it seems not insignificant that Rove writes: "The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow, the largest electoral margin since 1996."

-- jpt

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 Message 2 of 6 in Discussion 
From: BatmanSent: 11/4/2008 5:13 PM

It's a double edged sword. It encourages people to vote for McCain and it makes Obama people think it's over and they don't need to vote.

I'll hold my reservations until Hannity has to say President-elect Obama.

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 11/4/2008 8:05 PM
Hmm...that's not far off from my 322-216 Obama victory prediction.  I was torn between saying 311, 322, or 338, so I picked the middle one.  But I expect the Obama range to be 311-349. 
And don't get me started on Hannity.  All the talk radio guys have been huge letdowns as they quickly morphed into party mouthpieces after the shock of getting stuck with McCain wore off.  Hannity has to be the worse one.  Rush wasn't bad b/c his view is that McCain can't win but maybe he can if we drag him over the finish line, and then we'll worry about stopping him from doing whatever stupid things he'll want to and try to do, but that'll be better than what Obama's agenda will be (I disagree on this, which is why I didn't participate in voting for McCain or advocating for him).  But Hannity, that guy, that like Wednesday or Thursday when Romney pulled out of the race (w/ his CPAC speech) following Super Tuesday, Hannity was beside himself (like most of us) wondering what happened to his party.  He vowed--vowed--he was switching parties, that he would re-register as a member of the Conservative Party.  A couple weeks later I happened to catch a caller mention it and Hannity said he still was going to do but he hadn't had time yet, lol.  The nexzt time I listened, he was all about how Obama was way too dangerous and we need to look again at John McCain b/c hey, he won the primary and so maybe he knows something we don't about where to take conservatism, as if McCain were suddenly the new luminary, the new wizzard of conservatism and we all just didn't know it yet, rofl.  So, not that Hannity was ever, to me, a good debater or analyst, but he was ridiculous this election.  Total joke.  Total talking points, RNC shill. 
And to further insult me, I floated my Rick Mave (get it: Mave, Rick) pitch titled Define Loyalty (available here for free, lol: ) in an Op-Ed contest at the Forums and was quickly banned for LIFE, citationg being "Contempt For Host".   Now I wasn't banned immediately after my Op-Ed, but in discussion of it I mentioned in there someplace about if Hannity was a member of the Conservative Party yet and continued on explaining why we needed to lose, and well, they can have libs and obamites there, but they have no place for a revolting Republican it seems.  Even though I know damn well that tomorrow they'll agree with me, lol.  Damn i got started.....nice stopping point here though

 Message 4 of 6 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 11/4/2008 8:21 PM
Banned for life? From entering an op-ed contest? An op-ed contest?

 Message 5 of 6 in Discussion 
From: BatmanSent: 11/4/2008 8:23 PM
Fair and Balanced?


 Message 6 of 6 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSKYgir1Sent: 11/4/2008 8:24 PM
I don't get Fox news because I refuse to pay for it...LOL - we get everything else here free, I watch CNN and find MSNBC too silly.......I must say that what I have seen of Hannity is pretty funny. It would be nice if conservative views were explained by someone who didn't hold get more flies with honey....
But I think that the worst person for the Republican Party is Elizabeth Hasselbeck. I don't think that girl has ever had an original thought. Talk about parrotting the GOP talking points.....
And it's not that I mind McCain - but he lost his edge. And picking Sarah Palin was the miost cynical thing I think I've ever's an insult to women. She MAY (and I have my doubts) be an intelligent woman (I would say she's more ambitious that smart) but is so over her head it's horrifying......

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