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(2 recommendations so far) Message 1 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameDede_springs_eternal  (Original Message)Sent: 8/7/2008 7:25 PM
This sideboard is a safety zone. That means there is no argument, confrontation or even disagreement about a thread topic. This is intended to be a forum where people can feel free to express themselves without concern that someone else is going to come in and poo all over the thread. For example, if I want to post a thread such as "Johnny Depp is hot" and don't want to read a post saying he's an ugly piece of crap, I can post that thread in here because contrariness isn't allowed. This is the only area of the FNB where 'freedom of speech' ends when you arrive at any given thread.
 
You can post about whatever you want, pro or con, and nobody can interfere with your thread. This is a place for everyone to have the chance to celebrate their opinions without being taken to task for having a different opinon. There is no calling someone out in here. Go to Free Swim to do that. As well, if you want there to be discussion and debate, the best place for the topic is on the General board (or whatever sideboard may be appropriate, such as the 2008 Elections sideboard for political discourse). This is just a safe place where anyone who starts a thread can be certain that the only responses they will get will be in agreement or providing sympathy or empathy.  Do not attack other members, and this is the place to pretend you have manners even if you don't.
 
Offending responses will be deleted immediately. Repeat offenders may be banned.  The entire management feels that this will be a great and positive addition to our community and we hope that everyone will come here and use this side board.  If you don't like the rules then don't participate and if you have something negative to say about it, don't do it here.  LOL
 
Repeated violations will result in banning and an invitation to take a flying leap.  Thank you.


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(3 recommendations so far) Message 32 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLitaBonitaSent: 8/29/2008 2:46 AM
Conrad - this might have been right before you became an ASSman when we all (other managers) didn't consider your opinion.
 
Kelsey - Your post was not the only one deleted initially. There were SEVERAL others. So no, the rules are not different for everyone.
 
Your post was not the same as Kitty's...at all. You said that you would not follow the rules because it would be silly for you only to speak in thread where you agree. You said that if you disagreed with a post here you would offer your opinion anyway. And if you look at the rules that is the opposite of what we were trying to achieve here. You even concluded your post with this gem: I am sure this will get deleted because I broke a Safety Dance rule. 
 
Why are you (and you others that had posts deleted) posting those types of things in the one place we are trying to keep drama free anyway? LOL

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 Message 33 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKellysgotanangelsvoiceSent: 8/29/2008 6:00 AM
When I said that it was because I wasn't sure if I was breaking a rule or not.  I apologize that it came off to mean that I was SURE I was breaking a rule and was doing it anyway to be a bad ass or something.
 
And I NEVER SAID tht I would break the rules of the board,  I said I wasn't sure that I was or not with tht post.  AND that is why when it was initially deleted I didn't say ANYTHING because I thought, okay then that was against the rules now I'm clear on that and that was my bad I'll let it go. But I FEEL that Kitty's post is the same thing as what I said she is breaking this rule
 
This is NOT a place for someone to rant about the FNB
 
And I never said anything of the sort about offering my opinion anyway, because I never felt that way.  My thread was entirely about how I felt attacked by some people, I didn't even name names.  Perhaps you are confusing my thread with someone elses. 
 
Anyways now that two managers have responded to my concern, I will just leave the matter alone.  Thanks to both of you for your responses. 

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 Message 34 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKellysgotanangelsvoiceSent: 8/29/2008 6:01 AM
Why are you (and you others that had posts deleted) posting those types of things in the one place we are trying to keep drama free anyway? LOL
 
Because you said it was a place where we could feel safe to express ourselves without attack...that was the impression I was operating under. Sorry.

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 Message 35 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 8/29/2008 7:59 PM
Kelsey, I really don't remember anything about your thread, but Kitty's is asking people how they feel. Is that what yours was about, asking others if they're afraid to post?
 

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 Message 36 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKellysgotanangelsvoiceSent: 8/29/2008 8:51 PM
To ME it appears that Kitty's post says that she is scared to post here because others will attack her.
 
My post was about how I'm afraid to post because everyone always says I'm offended by everything, despite the fact that that is not at all true.
 
 
I'm just trying to distinguish the difference?
 
As far as I can understand my post was deleted because I did not explain what I meant by saying I'm sure this will get deleted.  You see, when I'm unsure about something, in order to save myself the embarrasment of just being wrong, I'll qualify it with Im sure I'm wrong.  In this case, in order to save myself embarrasment if I wasnt allowed to post that, I said "I'm sure this will get deleted"  But in reality I just wasn't SURE if I was breaking a rule, becauseit was firstday of safety dance and I was unclear on the rules.  But I never ONCE said I would post my opinion anyway on the safety dance board despite the rules against it.

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 Message 37 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKittyMarthaPooSent: 8/30/2008 9:39 PM
Kellysgotta & Smigs, you both actually are correct. I WAS stating that I feel afraid to post anything for fear of being attacked (or greeted with sarcastic remarks) AND ALSO I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way.
 
And actually, aren't the posts on this thread arguing with Kellysgotta in conflict with whole reason of the Safety Dance board? Please no one yell at me  but one would think that the point was that Kellys. could post here without backtalk commentary. No?

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 Message 38 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKittyMarthaPooSent: 8/30/2008 9:41 PM
My post was about how I'm afraid to post because everyone always says I'm offended by everything
 
and on a totally side note, Kellysgotta, I DON'T find you to be offended by everything.  (like I have not gotten that impression from your posts. Maybe some others, but not you).

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 Message 39 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamegiggllessSent: 8/30/2008 10:27 PM
This paticular thread explains rules, and she is asking questions. We have to be able to answer her questions Kitty.  I haven't responded before, because I didn't see the thread deleted.
 
None of the managers are trying to argue with Kelsey, and it seems like this whole things has been a misunderstanding on all sides, and everyone just wants to clear the air and establish the rules.
 
Kelsey, I  also have taken some of your posts that you are upset or offended when you then say you weren't,  it seems from your last post that might be because of the way you word things.   How about just saying what you feel with out trying to guess what people  will think, and just say it.  with out the im sure Im wrong or things like that because that immediatly puts people on the defenisve and then they might take your comments the wrong way.   Maybe just say how you feel, and explain, nobody was trying to target you when your threads where deleted I am positive, they just misundertoof your meaning due to your wording.  (remember we can see posture or tones in words) 
 
I like everyone here and  I too have not always stated my opinion due to not wanting to seem dumb, wrong, or trashy.  I think the safety dance thread is a great idea.  I also think the way zel started it with   the thread title and thenn  -sd   it helps people KNOW its a safety dance thread due to the view all message boards option.

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 Message 40 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 8/31/2008 12:07 AM
It must just be something about how it was worded, K, I really can't say with any conviction since I just don't remember. If the perception was it was more about complaining than about commiserating, then that's probably why it got deleted. Kitty's thread seems to me, for all intents and purposes, simply about "does anyone else ever feel like a poohead for posting an opinion that seems to set others off or give them a reason to put you down?"
 
So, if that's all you were trying to say, too, sorry if your post wasn't clear enough or whatever. If it's any consolation whatsoever, the way I say things routinely gets presumptive retorts - it's just how it's said that prompts it. Anyway, since you share this feeling in common with Kitty and others, I say go ahead and post in her thread at this point and let's just move past this at this point.
 
 
 
This is not to say that in the Safety Dance you can't post something that's more or less a "complaining" sort of thing, but the intention is something more along the lines of "my spouse is a louse" (lol) or "I hate rude people at the bank" or whatever, not something that seems intended to intimidate or call out members of this community. We still have Free Swim for that, lol.
 
The difference here is, if you do say you hate rude people at the bank, nobody can come in and say, "Oh, lighten up, don't be a wuss, wait your turn," etc. They either agree with your sentiment, don't relate to it but provide sympathy, or they keep their yaps shut, lol.
 
(LOL, they can always start a thread in Free Swim to call you out on it - "At least I have the patience to wait my turn" (an obvious dig at the 'rude people at the bank' example above) - but they can't poo on you in here.)
 
I realize that the very concept of having a 'safe place' is contrary to what we've all become accustomed to - lmao - but we'll get used to it, I'm thinkin'.

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 Message 41 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKittyMarthaPooSent: 8/31/2008 3:19 AM
This paticular thread explains rules, and she is asking questions.
 
You're right; this IS the rules thread; Kellys didn't start it. Sorry!  I had a blonde moment

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 Message 42 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKittyMarthaPooSent: 8/31/2008 3:21 AM
This is not to say that in the Safety Dance you can't post something that's more or less a "complaining" sort of thing, but the intention is something more along the lines of "my spouse is a louse" (lol) or "I hate rude people at the bank" or whatever, not something that seems intended to intimidate or call out members of this community. We still have Free Swim for that, lol.
 
The difference here is, if you do say you hate rude people at the bank, nobody can come in and say, "Oh, lighten up, don't be a wuss, wait your turn," etc. They either agree with your sentiment, don't relate to it but provide sympathy, or they keep their yaps shut, lol.
 
Smigs, this is a very good way of explaining the difference between the two

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 Message 43 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKellysgotanangelsvoiceSent: 8/31/2008 3:35 AM
Smig,
 
Your post cleared up the question.  Thank you to EVERYONE who responded.  I really appreciate the effort to explain! :)
 
Gigs,
Thats a good idea, I will just make sure I explain myself from now on, and I will try not to say things that may be misleading!!! :)
 
Thanks again everyone!

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 Message 44 of 46 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLitaBonitaSent: 8/31/2008 7:01 AM
I think it was a nice effort from the managers on behalf of the members that wanted a "safe haven". I guess they are avoiding posting here because drama ensued. lol
 
This sideboard may need to be put down. Humanely of course.

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From: MSN NicknameKellysgotanangelsvoiceSent: 8/31/2008 10:29 PM
I think it was a nice effort from the managers on behalf of the members that wanted a "safe haven".
 
Word. :)  I completely agree!

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