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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-n  (Original Message)Sent: 12/23/2008 3:07 PM
Well, President Clinton had 8 Ivies in his cabinet.  Bush has 9.  Obama has 8.  Where's the Change?  
 
And, all told so far, 24 of his 37 appointments hold degrees from an Ivy school, MIT, Stanford, University of Chicago, Oxford or Cambridge, making his Administration the most saturated by Ivy since JFK's. 
 
Now, being that I'm not particulary against any of this, I'm not trying to act like a Democrat and point the finger at someone's elitism as if that's an entirely bad thing in and of itself, lol.  However, it deserves being pointed out since it is another nonChange, but more of the same.  In fact, more of the same on the heels of all Obama's moves to the center-right that include keeping the Bush tax cuts for an extended period of time (at least), keeping the troops in Iraq--increasing them in Afghanistan, being a hawk on Iran, maintaining SDI/star wars/missile defense....so, hey, these are not bad things and partisan democrats who were part of the hate-Bush syndrome need to recognize how petty, disgraceful and superficial and wrong they've been over the past 4 or 5 years and grow up. 


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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 7:27 PM
lol, lav so ur one of those girls who likes to take em just in case, just like the guy who keeps a condom in is wallet, lmao
 
anma--and seriously, apart from degrading down to lav's level of irrelevance--what is it that I've said that you find to be riding Obama so hard?

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 Message 12 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 7:35 PM
Don't answer him Anma.  He's just going to say crazy shit and then pat himself on the back for his brilliance in the realm of crazy.
 
And Torty, some of us are actually having sex.  Others are just talking about it.  Know what I mean jelly bean?  ;- P

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 Message 13 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 7:41 PM
Anma, don't be influenced by those who are comprised of incoherence and inaction.  You take an interest in a topic, you support a side, you fight for it.

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 Message 14 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 7:48 PM
He's got politics confused with sports, doesn't he girl?

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 Message 15 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 7:52 PM
The words of message 13 pertain to any avenue of life as it is solid advice. 
 
But, for those who prefer the low road, be prepared to be disappointed with a life filled with mediocrity.

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 Message 16 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 7:54 PM
Now that I might consider because I'm sure that you are intimately familiar with mediocrity.

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 Message 17 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 7:57 PM
eh, well my personal net worth is about $840,000, and I'm pretty young to have achieved that, so, well, you can do the math

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From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 8:11 PM
And this you've accomplished whilst posting all day on this message board.  Sure, we ALL believe that. 

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 Message 19 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 8:13 PM
Torty, only those even MORE mediocre than you don't see you for what you are...and they are very, very few in number.
 
Debes que estar bien cierto de lo que te digo.  Tu no eres nada, y enganas a nadie.  Todo el mundo rein de ti, menos los mas pendejo que tu.

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 Message 20 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 8:13 PM
no, this i've achieved through real estate, my investment club, and two companies--not savings

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From: MSN NicknameLavender_Greenshadow©Sent: 12/23/2008 8:15 PM
Tengo que salir con mi novio me esta esperando.
 
Merry Christmas.

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 Message 22 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 8:31 PM
this an e-boyfriend?   lol

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 Message 23 of 25 in Discussion 
From: AnmaSent: 12/23/2008 8:49 PM
anma--and seriously, apart from degrading down to lav's level of irrelevance--what is it that I've said that you find to be riding Obama so hard?
 
First up, I'm not degrading down to Lav's level 'cause Lav's level is not degrading in the first place.
 
Look Torts - I won't pretend to be as politico as you are (unfortunately, you all banned the one person that can go head-to-head with you ) - I don't sit around all day and read blogs and Rush Lumbaugh and such - I have a life to live - but seriously, give the man a chance to get in office and maybe eff up before you bash his "change" policies.  You have been chiding his "change" efforts since he was elected.  If the man sees something in these former folks that can help with this craptastic economy, war, etc, than why not hire them.  Just because they worked for Bush and/or Clinton in the past, don't make them imbeciles.  I'm sure these folks have some serious degrees behind them and prolly getting a second chance to make it "right".  Would you want him to hire a someone with no experience and maybe eff shit up even more?  I don't think so.
 
Also, for you to sit there and constantly post all those websites every day and be worth $840,000, I would seriously like to know what kind of work you do 'cause I ain't nowhere near that and I work my ASS OFF!! 

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 9:03 PM
First, the person whom you assert we banned isn't truly gone and she long ago quit trying to debate and descended into only insult-hurling. 
 
Second, I'm not bashing any policy of change.  I'm not even bashing, period.  I'm pointing out the lack of change, and the failure to deliver a promise, not so far, but already.  I cut this criticism with laughter and have been even more careful to describe that I don't think the nonChange is a bad thing to begin with.  But under no circumstance is anything I've done comparble to actions and words of those suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome over the past 5 years. 
 
Third, how is it that I can post here during traditional working hours and get ripped for doing so, yet everyone else can and that's just fine?  lol.  Now, my net worth is an estimate of my assets over my liabilities.  I have 6 real estate holdings (4 are partials that are also co-owned by my investment club (meaning i'm a member of one, not an operator of one), in which I have other investments, meaning ownership stakes, in two bars and one club, which make up 3 of those 4 partial real estate holdings--the 4th is in a building a friend of mine and I own and from it he runs a printing/labelling company), my 401k, my Roth IRA, my life insurance policy, my investment account, my trading account, and a third investment account that serves strictly as a holding company for equities (stock) of companies I've accumulated via my role in a consulting/crisis management company (which lends money and management to troubled companies in exchange for equity), which is my main or 'day' job as they say.  So, as you can see, it's not as if I don't work my ass off too. 

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 12/23/2008 9:17 PM
oh, and i left out my car holdings, lol....now, i've juggled some of the drivers over the years and typically do so fairly often, and I like to keep two cars that I drive routinely in my garage, but I do own a unique Defender 90 that is worth probably no less than $50K.  The '06 Escalade I drive on a daily basis, and my trusty 1997M3 is my other.  The M can't be worth anything, so I don't count it, and the Escalade, hm, I owe like $6K on it, and I could probably sell it for $20K, so that brings my car holdings to a total of $64K if I were putting together a formal statement for you, but really I wouldn't even count the equity in the Caddy since it's not an investment, and won't appreciate like the Defender would.
 
oh, but anyway, if you want an Expedition, one that bases at $33 or $34K, they're negotiating them to $23K.   That's freakin awesome. 

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