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Was it too much to ask for Celtic to do what the rest of the world does and have a minute's silence yesterday ? It is the time-served international mark of respect at this time of year, and every other ground in the country is recognising a silence. I know Celtic were trying to drown out and play down the demonstration by The Green Brigade, but surely if they are serious about weeding out this cancerous element of their support then they should allow them to expose themselves to nationwide condemnation ? If the dissenters to Celtic's "leave your politics at the turnstile" policy are as small as Celtic say they are, surely they wouldn't be so hard to pick out with Celtic's marvellous "best in the world" CCTV system ? (You know, the same CCTV system that helped them pick out the ghuy who hit Ricksen with a lighter and the ghuys who threw over £100 onto the pitch at Hugh Dallas.  ) Or maybe they were scared that it would show that Juan Ghuy is capable of sitting in several seats at the same time ? |
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They're marking it with a silence. |
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| I think it was wrong but it's a paradox as there's always gonna be them few drunken eejits who don't have the mental capacity to comprehend past the IRA shite, Celtic as a an establishment did the best they could to avoid embarrassent by that small minority, i can remember the extremely minor at a minutes silence after the omagh bombings and their wouldn't have been more than 10 people shouting but it ruined the whole silence |
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aint it funny how everybody is going out of their way to emphasise that its a 'tiny. tiny' minority who hold these views? I do believe it is a minority that hold the truly extremist views but I also believe that it is a significant minority. I also believe that the majority have views sympathetic to this minority, as amply illustrated many times by Alltims and others on this site. |
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people are allowed to have views TGO thats what living in a democracy is all about peoples beliefs that differ from your own are not wrong. i do believe that there should have been a silence at the game my grandfather fought in ww2 and my uncle was in the army and served in n ireland so i have the opinion that it would be a proper mark of respect. i do believe tho it was a no win situation for celtic, we could have had a silence that would have been spoiled without doubt as there are many many people who feel ill towards the british army etc but why let the morons who feel the need to disrespect this by giving the platform they want? on the green brigade note i believe they have been banned from parkhead |
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nowhere did I say that people aren't entitled to their views. It's the price of a democratic society that people are allowed, within certain limits, to express extremist views which many would deem offensive. I do though believe that C*ltic should have allowed these pond-life morons to shame themselves. |
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The Green Brigade have been banned from The Piggery ? Does that mean the end of their banners and flag shows with IRA slogans which were displayed with the full co-operation of Celtic FC ? |
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it would suit you perfectly for a couple of morons to ruin a silence instead of a round of applause as you'd lick your lips at the thought of more shame brought to Celtic by this minority. Truth is you'd rather see the memory of the WWI tarnished then it being respected to the best of Celtic's abilities. TGO, did you see the Omagh Bombing minute silence i am referring to? Also I think you'll find alot of Celtic fans are pretty angry about the protest of other fans, basically the reason is these Celtic fans wanted to disrupt it and weren't happy about the poppies worn because of the British Army's occupation of NI and their manner in the country during the troubles
IRA slogans from the Green Brigade, mountains out of molehills anyone? |
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"rather see the memory of WW1 tarnished", what a complete load of tosh. I'm sure you'd like to think of it that way because it allows you to divert attention from the real issue and make out that this is all about the bad old proddies trying to score points. That's fairly pathetic to be honest, sometimes difficult issues need to be discussed openly although I do realise that the C*ltic way is to sweep things under the carpet. Would I like to see shame brought on C*ltic FC? well, the reality is that the shame is constantly there, it's just hidden. Would I like that hidden shame to be exposed to the wider public who are fooled by C*ltic's kiddology about the "inclusivity" of their club? I think the answer to that is yes but not in that manner. Having said that I am becoming increasingly aware of the general public starting to see the C*ltic support 'beast' for what it really is. On the non-silence after the Omagh bombings, well, my memory of that period is quite clear. I remember coming away from an old firm game at Porkheed shortly after the bombing and shaking my head in disbelief after hearing IRA chants all afternoon. This wasn't a small minority btw, there was probably about 50k C*ltic supporters at that game and at least 20-30% of them were participating in the chanting and that is a conservative estimate. I think my very low opinion of your club's support was crystallised that day. Incidentally, poppy day isn't just about WW1, that's just where it started from. |
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All tims are you saying they dont wear poppys in ireland, hmmmm i guess ur wrong there, its not just northern that wears them, we have lost soliders too, men who are irish and fought with the brittish |
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Alltims, if you want to sweep the issues under the carpet you're exactly the type of supporter the Celtic board want. The term "brainwashed" springs to mind. And are you seriously trying to deny that The Green Brigade display banners at Celtic Park with IRA slogans on them ? I mean, seriously ? |
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no i'm not sweeping, i'm trying to think things through before i slam them, somwthing you have the inabilty to do.
Ness, are you reffering to the some men fight for gold some menfight for silver or are there others that offend you even though you have had no effect from the IRA personally.
Shamrock, i'm well aware there were Irish men and women who fought. They don't sell poppies here in Galway and i'd believe you'd have a hard time finding them in Dublin, this isn't because we aren't sympathetic to the soldiers who lost their lives in WWI or WWII or any war where the UK and Ireland were involved in, it's just on a smaller scale. I dont know where you got that from.
TGO, The game I was at was Dundee Utd at Parkhead, so I can't see how there was minutes silence at both. Whether it be 2 or 10,000 There is a major majority of Celtic supporters who support Celtic for Celtic and not for any other cause and that's very similiar with Rangers and it's alot more of a mature rivalry then which doesn't lose any of it's fierceness and I enjoy. |
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There are others. They have been shown on here. |
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Here is a vid of the green brigade, 8 mins of footage and i dont see anything to do with the I.R.A so make your own minds up with this one. |
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| Here is footage of the Green Brigade flying banners and through the whole 8 mins there are no signs of I.R.A slogans on them, so you can make up your own minds on this one,and the musics not that bad either. |
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shambloke, if you are seriously trying to deny that The Green Brigade do not put up banners inside Celtic Park with words from IRA songs in them, then you are seriously naiive. They have been displayed on this site many times. |
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