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 Message 1 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameTheGingerOracle  (Original Message)Sent: 11/22/2008 9:12 PM
Superb banner today, well done to the Blue Order.


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 Message 55 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/26/2008 8:33 PM
Arveladze and Kanchelskis didn't.

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 Message 56 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/26/2008 9:44 PM
if you choose to deny it, then fine, i'll just laugh

kanchelskis is russian orthodox who bless themselves

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 Message 57 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/26/2008 9:50 PM
Laughing at my denials doesn't mean you're not telling lies.
 
So I'll ask yet again. Are you going to retract your accusation that I accused Boruc of being fined by the police for blessing himself ? And are you going to acknowledge that he wasn't cautioned by the police for the offence that you claimed ?
 
Refusing to answer those questions just shows you up for what you are, Alltims, i.e. a liar who doesn't want to admit when he's been proved hopelessly wrong.

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 Message 58 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/26/2008 9:58 PM
more denial, more laughter, more desperation from you

and do i really have to tell you to re read message 38

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 Message 59 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/26/2008 10:10 PM
Is message 38 the best you can do ? I mean, is it really ? If that's the case, you really need to sort yourself out.
 
Admitting you're wrong is not a weakness, it's a strength. Constantly refusing to admit you've got it wrong in the midst of the strongest evidence possible just makes you look very very childish and stupid.
 
Again.

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 Message 60 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/26/2008 10:53 PM
i find it sad that you cannot read a simple passage to see what i was trying to say. You're clutching at straws here Ness

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 Message 61 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/27/2008 8:27 AM
A wee tip, Alltims - if you're "trying to say" something, just say it. Don't hide behind other words and assume we'll all know what message you're wanting to get over.
 
Ok, let's examine that "simple passage" and see what you actually said, instead of what you were "trying to say".
 
What you actually said in message 23 was :-
 
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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1</NOBR> Sent: 25/11/2008 17:25
You've said Boruc's antics i.e. blessing himself, deserve to be fined because it could start crowd trouble.......

It's very simple and clear cut. You accused me of claiming that Boruc was fined for blessing himself.

Now anybody who reads this site, except for you, knows that is not true. Anybody who reads this site, except for you, knows that I have long campaigned for the truth to be told on this subject, i.e. Boruc was not fined or cautioned for blessing himself.

In message 27 I provided evidence to conclusive prove that point, i.e. a letter from the Crown Office to Scotland's First Minister explaining the reason for the action taken against Boruc and expressing their disappointment at people (like you) twisting the reason to suit their own agenda.

I asked for a retraction of your accusation of what you claimed I had said about Boruc, and I also asked for an acknowledgement that Boruc was not fined or cautioned by the police for what you claim.

Rather than produce that apology in the existence of overwhelming evidence, you have tried feebly to squirm your way out of this one by using the "what I was trying to say" line. You keep referring to message 38, which simply says :-

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1</NOBR> Sent: 26/11/2008 13:16
Yes i used that as an example of Boruc's antics not an example of when he got fined, it can be read both ways

That means next to nothing in my mind, and is far from the retraction or acknowledgement that I'm asking for.

You are a coward, Alltims. I'd think highly of you if you simply came out and said, "Yes, Nessie, I got it wrong, I chose my words incorrectly and I acknowledge that Boruc was not fined for blessing himself and you never said he was."

But continuing to try to justify it and even turn it round to being me "clutching at straws" and having "desperation" does you no credit whatsoever in anyone's eyes, Alltims. It just makes you look very silly, as we all know what your alleged chosen profession is, and we all know that you should know better.

Come on, prove me wrong. Show me you're not a coward and do the right thing.


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 Message 62 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/28/2008 10:49 PM
i have admitted that it can be read two ways, couldn't really care what way you choose to or not to take it up

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 Message 63 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/29/2008 1:45 PM
So "coward" it is.

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 Message 64 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/29/2008 8:42 PM
if that's the way you choose to see it

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 Message 65 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/29/2008 8:43 PM
also consider that i haven't went as low as childish name calling

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 Message 66 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/29/2008 9:03 PM
Don't try to claim the moral high ground here, Alltims.
 
You are the one who made the false accusation, and you are the one who is refusing to retract the accusation despite the most overwhelming evidence possible.
 
And it's not the first time you've done this, we all know that.
 
Sure, I've called you names, i.e. liar and coward. That's because that's exactly what you've been on this thread.

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 Message 67 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1Sent: 11/30/2008 3:57 PM
I never even made this accusation, you just read it in a way that you thought i did.

End of contribution to this thread, just because it's pointess repeating myself

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 Message 68 of 69 in Discussion 
From: Nessie �?/A>Sent: 11/30/2008 8:47 PM
You never made the accusation, did you not ? Eh, oh yes you did :-
 
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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAlltimsgotoheaven1</NOBR> Sent: 25/11/2008 17:25
You've said Boruc's antics i.e. blessing himself, deserve to be fined....

What other way is there to read that, other than you accusing me of saying that Boruc should be fined for blessing himself ? There is no ambiguity in your accusation, Alltims, and your attempts to suggest there is are pathetic.

Yes, it is pointless repeating yourself, Alltims, because you're just making yourself look more and more stupid every time you do.

If you were to take the non-coward's way out and admit you made a false accusation then I'd respect your integrity. But since you've wimped out of being honest, I'll just continue to think you're a coward and a liar.


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 Message 69 of 69 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameTheGingerOracleSent: 12/13/2008 6:02 PM
Off to see 'From the Jam' at the Barrolands tonight. I was there this time last year and it was a complete middle aged karaoke. Paul Weller not required  
 
Wonder if we'll see the Blue Order flag next to Bairds bar

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