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From: MSN NicknameRobJDI5  (Original Message)Sent: 10/22/2007 6:29 AM

X-MASS - YULETIDE

A PAGAN FESTIVAL

(which is actually condemned by Christ)
 
 

CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.

 
 
Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.

SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).

Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.

Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.

The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.

SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).


SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.
SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.

There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles.

A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.

The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.

The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.

The fact that the three kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the opposite too, by words, persuasion and example.

Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egoes (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12).

Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day.

So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day.

Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egoes. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other.

Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year.

The decking of fir trees with silver and gold and placing presents (offerings) under them is also a pagan ritual condemned by God in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4. Nimrod/Osiris/Horus is often pictured with wings, holding reindeer and a fir tree.

Also, if you take the word CONIFER, which is the name given to the family of trees to which the Christmas (Fir) tree belongs, and split the word in two, you get:

CON-IFER

CON - Satan is known as the biggest con-artist ever. He invented it.
IFER - The last half of Lucifer's name.

HE'S LAUGHING AT ALL OF US RIGHT NOW!

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SANTA SATAN
by Mr. Normal
(Xmas Eve, 2000)

Is it plausible that Santa is really Satan?"

Think about it, folks!  It's not just that "Santa" is an obvious anagram of Satan; that Santa wears a demonic red suit symbolic of the fires of Hell; and that his huge hat must conceal horns.  The clincher is that Santa represents xmas, that time of year when christian greed and phony sincerity reach their unctuous peak.  It's the season when braindead followers of the ultimate cult are whipped into frenzies that leave them figuratively drained -- broke and exhausted.

Understandably, it's also the time of the year when depression and suicides max out as the futility of achieving happiness sinks in at least subliminally.  A December, 2000 Gallup poll shows that 85% of us think that xmas is too commercial, but Santa/Satan wouldn't have it any other way!  Our most respected institutions are in on the plot too.  Even the law of the land (U.S.A.) forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who's there instead?  You
guessed it!  Santa! - Satan.

Lucifer/Satan once was one of God's angels.   Satan's attempted heavenly coup failed (Isa. 14:12-15), but he was given his very own place to rule and called it Hell/Earth (Rev. 12:9)  Satan also got free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Mercedes Benzes).  However, Satan still was not satisfied.  He worked hard to make xmas the most important retail event of the year.  A recent survey showed that 60% of holiday spending occurs at xmas, and another 20% at Satan's recognized holiday of Halloween.  Think about it, folks!  Satan has locked up 80% of our holiday dollars!  Who else could be the "red dragon" of Revelation 12:3, ?.  More important is that asking Santa for something really is an unwitting pact with the Devil, and parents are dooming their children's souls to Hell-Fire! (Coming to your neighbourhood; soon - JAH.)

"Santa Satan's" devilish temptations have achieved what John Lennon could only try to claim for the Beatles -- greater popularity than Jesus!  Indeed, "Santa Satan" truly is the reason for the season!

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Christ, the Spirit-Being that was placed in-side the body (IN-carnated not begotten as it has been misinterpreted) called Jesus, was not born 2000 years ago or even 2,000 millennia ago. He is, as he said, older than this planet and zillions of years old, being the first created by God (His oldest Son - Prince Michael - Dan. 10:21). It was only the human animal organic computer (body), that was used by the Son of God, that was born 2000 years ago. You are not supposed to worship or make graven images of a human organic computer, similar to the one that you are locked inside of, or even the spirit (Christ) that was within the body called Jesus, you are supposed to worship his Perfect Father the Supreme-Being, as Christ himself told you to do. God is not a human, He is a "Being of Light" (soul). Therefore His Son (Christ) is not a human either but was the soul (Being) that was inside the human body from the virgin-birth. God is Spirit (energy/Light) and you must worship Him in spirit (with your spirit - soul) in TRUTH and love Him, as He loves you. JAH.

 



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From: Seraphim74Sent: 10/24/2007 9:26 AM
A beter verse would be.
 
"Thus saith the Lord; Learn not the way of the heathen and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; For the heathen are dismayed at them. (3) For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of a worksman, with the axe. (4) They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammer, that it move not. (5) they are upright as the palm tree, but speak not; they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afriad of them, for they cannot do evil , neither also is it in them to do good.
                                                                           Jeremiah 10:2-
 
well you know it's true for people still sit around the tree and sing to it as if it could hear. you know the song
 
Oh chrismas tree
Oh cristmas tree
How lovely are your branches.
 
Man I thank God for truth in his word and seperating me from this world system and traditions.
 
Praise Him

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 Message 3 of 10 in Discussion 
From: courtneySent: 10/24/2007 2:38 PM
I  have   always  understood  christmas  day    as  the  day  my  saviour  was  born .  It  may  not  be  the  exact  date  ,  but   its  still   a  reminder  of  his  sacrifice  for  my  sin.   
My  understanding  is   that  the  earth  and  the  fullness  thereof   is  the  Lords . 
God  can  make  anything  the  devil  purposes  to  pervert   for  his  purpose .
Joseph   said  to  his  brothers  ( after   they  admitted  their  guilt )
" But  as for  you ,  ye  thought  evil  against  me ; God  meant  it  unto  good,  to  bring  to  pass   ,  as  it  is  this  day  to save  much people   alive."  ( Gen 50- 20)
 Why  dont  we  use  the  day  to  wittness  to   people  about   the  saviour   instead  of   focussing  on  what  the  devil  is  doing???
Every  day   belongs  to  the  Lord!!!!  even  CHRISTMAS !
Is  christmas  pagan ?     For  some  of  you    it  is. 
As  for  me ,   Everyday  is  a  HOLY   day   and  that  includes  christmas! 

The  only   day  that  the  devil  has  tried  to  make  pagan  is  in  the  thoughts  of  those  that  think  christmas  is  pagan.

 

Just  because  I  celebrate  my  saviours  birth  on   christmas   ,  it  is  a  sin ?    really !    Thats  what  the  devil  tries   convince  us  of.   I  can  see  he  has      convinced  some  already .   Sad 

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From: Seraphim74Sent: 10/25/2007 9:37 AM
well if every day is God,s then celebrate Jesus everyday, more so the fact that he died we should really be joyous. Christmas is another day and it's not the day but the holiday. To be seperate from the world is not to celebreate and participate in everytradition. Heck why wait to Christmas to go out witnessing do it everydays. Don't get stuck in the tradition of things heck go out and witness on Holloween.
 
Praise Him

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 Message 5 of 10 in Discussion 
From: courtneySent: 10/25/2007 9:41 PM
Christmas  for  most  is   celebrated  for  the    christs  birth ...not  halloween !    most  dont  know  anything  about  christmas being  Pagan  except  cults  that  go  around  preaching  what   we  already   dedicate  to  our  saviour  as  pagan.
Whats  Halloween  got  to  do  with  christmas ???  lol
If  you  understand  them  as  the  same  thing  then  good  for  you
!    most  dont . 
 

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From: Seraphim74Sent: 10/31/2007 7:27 AM
Holloween has nothing to do with Christmas, My point was why wait till Christamas to witness about Christ. Most believe it has everything to do with Christ. But that you could witness on Holloween a day no where near associtated with Jesus.
 
In other words don't conform to tradition if everday is the Lords day then you should witness on any day not just any particular way.
 
Praise Him

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From: MSN NicknameRobJDI5Sent: 11/1/2007 9:11 AM
Christ-mass/X-mas/Yuletide/Saturnalia has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christ.  It is a pagan festival designed to mock Christ, which is why He has condemned it. 
 
Those who choose to continue to honor and participate in the lie known as Christ-mas are choosing to believe the world (Satan) instead of the truth (from God through His Son Christ-Jesus).
 
The Lamb was born in the spring (the season of rebirth) NOT in the "dead" of winter.  Claiming that one knows "the reason for the season" or that it does not matter what day we celebrate the birth of Jesus is no excuse for believing in a lie.  Please consider that we will ALL kneel before Christ on Judgment Day and be judged in according to our WORKS (Matt. 16:27).
 
The lie known as Christ-mass is but one of the many lies that Satan is using to deceive the WHOLE WORLD (Rev. 12:9).  Please consider the consequences of continuing to listen to Satan rather than to Father (God).

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From: courtneySent: 11/2/2007 12:11 AM
In other words don't conform to tradition if everday is the Lords day then you should witness on any day not just any particular way.
 
Christmas   is   good  day  to  reach    children  and  tell them  about  their   saviour ,   because  they  know  its  its  a  special  day. 
Other   religions  ( Islam )  in  some  way  observe  christmas  because  to  them,  its  the  day   christians   remember  the  birth  of  christ. 
Dont  conform  to  tradition??? 
Not  all  traditions   is   evil   .   lol      Talk   about   
Throwing    out  the  baby  with  the   bath  water  !  lol  
Its  the  matter  of  the  Heart!!!   Are  we  not  allowed  to  redeem  the  day  for  our  Lord, if  its  pagan?
I  dont  really  know   what  the  MOTIVE  of  Robs  post  is? 
Just   because   christmas  has  its  origins  from  paganism,   and   by  choosing   not      to   celebrate   it,   does  that  make   us      more  rightous   or  holier?  
If   we  dont  to  take any  part  of  christmas,  then  go  to  work!!!  
Why   use  it  for  a  holiday,  if  its  pagan.
I  think  his  post   promotes  more  of  the  devils  evil  deeds  than   adding    to  the  kingdom.  Personally  I  stay   away  from   CULTS ....  they  do  more  damage  than  good....  Jesus  is  the  arch    Angel   Michael    eh  ?  yeah  right!
Anyway     ..God  bless 

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From: MSN NicknameRobJDI5Sent: 11/2/2007 10:05 AM
Courtney,
 
Thank-you for your reply.
 
The goal of the post is merely to present the truth to others.  It is then up to others to recognize the truth or reject it.
 
Christ has told us that He HATES Christ-mass and those who celebrate it in Revelation 2:6, 15.  Once exposed to the truth, we all must decide whether we will embrace it or continue to rebel against it.
 
We should be EXAMPLES of Christ EVERYDAY, NOT just one paltry day a year as you have correctly pointed out.  This begins with DOING what Christ has COMMANDED us to do rather than what we think is right in our own eyes.  He has made it clear that He is our ONLY Example (John 14:6) and He was/is living by The Law (Matt. 5:17-19).  He has COMMANDED us to do the same (Matt. 23:3) and made it clear if we love Him, we will KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS (John 14:15).
 
Returning to the goal of the post, it is to present the truth.  Christ, Who is known in heaven as Prince Michael is The Truth.  Jesus was the human body that Christ used 2000 years ago.  I hope this helps with your confusion for if you are looking for Christ to return in the body of Jesus (He has told us He will have a NEW NAME - Rev. 19:12, 3:12, 2:17) and to welcome those who continue to do the opposite of what He taught (e.g. celebrate Christ-mass) then you will be caught unaware as He has warned.
 
Time is running out wake up to the truth about this world.
 
Peace be upon you,
Rob 

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From: courtneySent: 11/4/2007 11:40 AM
Returning to the goal of the post, it is to present the truth.  Christ, Who is known in heaven as Prince Michael is The Truth.  Jesus was the human body that Christ used 2000 years ago.  I hope this helps with your confusion for if you are looking for Christ to return in the body of Jesus (He has told us He will have a NEW NAME - Rev. 19:12, 3:12, 2:17) and to welcome those who continue to do the opposite of what He taught (e.g. celebrate Christ-mass) then you will be caught unaware as He has warned.
 
Time is running out wake up to the truth about this world
 
If  you  cant   even  get  this   right  ,  how  then  can   you     make  people  believe   the  rest  of  your  posts. 
Now  we  know  where  your  at.    lol  
Pray  that  God  delivers  you  from   "deception" . 

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