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General : Smoke for the "aaah" or to relieve withdrawal?  
     
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From: John  (Original Message)Sent: 1/11/2007 2:09 PM
I'm confused about something you say on the site and that is that you say smoking produces an "ahh" sensation. You also say that smokers only smoke to relieve withdrawal symptoms. If it produces an "ahh" sensation, then doesn't that mean smokers enjoy smoking? I've been smoke free for a year and a half now and I'm having thoughts about smoking again because I get depressed a lot and feel like I need to smoke sometimes to be happy or get that "ahh" sensation. Am I just making up excuses or what? I would really like to believe that smokers just smoke to relieve withdrawal and don't get anything out of it, but it's hard for me to believe that sometimes when I see so many smokers that seem "happy." I kind of remember the few times that I relapsed in the past where I just felt mad at myself about caving in, but I also remember another time where I went a week without smoking and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Did I just enjoy it because it had only been a week of abstinence from nicotine? I almost feel like trying it again just to see what I think of it all, but in the back of my mind I don't want to do that because I fear I will hate it. Please write me back if you have time Joel. Thank you very much.
 
Ryan


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From: JohnSent: 1/11/2007 2:27 PM
Hello Ryan,
 
Joel is tied up with a large new clinic and in that the "aaah" sensation materials at WhyQuit were likely written by me, Joel has asked that I respond.   Most important, Ryan, if you think you may suffer from depression we strongly encourage you to get seen and evaluated by a physician skilled at treating it.  There are more than 30 depression medications available and unlike nicotine none are highly addictive and none more toxic than diamond back rattlesnake venom (see Nicotine 166 Times More Deadly than Caffeine? ). 
 
Ryan, complacency has set it and you've likely forgotten the price paid during recovery, in bringing you to a time and place where you may go entire days without once thinking about wanting to smoke nicotine.  But just one powerful puff and those days are over as you will find yourself thinking about needing or wanting to smoke multiple times each and every day, and paying dearly for it in terms of physical health, mental health, stigma, out of pocket expense and life expectancy.
 
Yes, instead of using depression medications we can use external chemicals like heroin, cocaine or nicotine to steal dopamine which, for the addict, will again quickly bury them beneath a pile of drug induced dopamine pathway "pay attention" memories, the most high definition type of memories the mind appears capable of generating.  We think of most memory disorders as involving memory failure.  Nicotine dependency is associated with remembering too well, an inability to forget.  But it's selective memory, memory that remembers the highs while suppressing the lows.  
 
Ryan, relapse will not match any remaining nicotine induced dopamine "aaah" memories that may remain.  While still hooked on nicotine the amount remaining in our bloodstream was cut by about half every two hours (nicotine's half-life).  When reflecting on words like "like" or "love" we really had no choice.  We either had to engage in replenishment or sense the onset of early withdrawal.  
 
The reason relapse will not match any old nicotine "aaah" memory is that those memories belonged to an actively feeding drug addict.  Nothing is missing and nothing needs replacing.  Your brain has been fully re-sensitized.  It's likely that relapse would be closer to what you experienced when you smoked your first cigarette ever, with your lungs and body rebelling.  But after that first cigarette it may not be long before the "aaahs" are back as toxin damaged mouth, throat, lung and brain tissues become numb to the assaults, the brain fights back via tolerance (brain neuronal de-sensitization) and constantly falling blood serum nicotine levels combine to make replenishment memorable.
 
As Joel likes to put it, it isn't that smokers around us necessarily "like" smoking so much as they don't like what happens when they don't smoke.  If replenishment is mandatory and we again quickly find ourselves a chemical slave to it, what does "like" have to do with anything as our choice has been narrowed to one. 
 
Also keep in mind that for every high there is a corresponding low.  Although as active nicotine addicts we were quick to replenish so as not to allow the low to get too low I'm sure you recall having waited too long between feedings and sensed the onset of anxieties and that depressed feeling.  Remember those "I NEED A SMOKE NOW!!!!!" times?  "WHERE ARE MY CIGARETTES!!!!!!!"
 
But, you are right, relapse is always an option for all ex-smokers.  But while considering it we encourage you to dig deep and recall all that comes with it.  It isn't honest to see ourself smoking just one now and then or having an occasional feeding but all of them, the complete package, and all that comes with it. 
 
Again, Ryan, we encourage you to get seen and treated as early dementia is not the answer for possible depression.  Recent studies show that nicotine may actually destroy brain gray matter and  generate chronic depression.  If so, why would we want to go deeper with less?
 
Staying on this side of the bars while keeping our now arrested dependency on the other may at times involve a need to renew our once strong personal commitment to freedom.  I encourage you to watch and study the smokers you see smoking carefully, Ryan.  Far from like or love, it's likely that they don't even realize they smoking as most nicotine is smoked while on auto pilot.  If they do look intense in sucking it down it's probable that you are seeing someone who has waited too long between feedings.  They are not smoking to tease us.  They do so because they must. 
 
Also watch the smoker smoking while drinking or stressed.  Both activities are acid producing events within the body that neutralize reserves of the alkaloid nicotine.  The stressed smoker cannot address the underlying stressful event until they pull themselves back from early withdrawal and allow themselves time to calm.  The more the drinking smoker drinks the more they'll find themselves smoking.  It isn't a matter of "like" or "love"but the same basic chemical pH interactions as seen when putting lime or acid heavy fertilizers in the yard, or a wet baking soda solution on an acid covered car battery terminal. 
 
Remember, there's still just one guiding principle determining the outcome for all ... no nicotine today,  Never Take Another Puff, Dip or Chew!
 
John
 
John R. Polito
Nicotine Cessation Educator
 

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From: harrySent: 1/19/2007 2:22 AM
I have been quit for 5 Days, 9 hours, 23 minutes and 27 seconds (5 days). I have saved $41.51 by not smoking 188 cigarettes. I have saved 15 hours and 40 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 1/13/2007 11:30 AM.
 
Ryan,
 
I think this is the longest I have ever been off the drug in 3 decades of trying every method to withdraw that exists except NTAP! I spent about 10 days on www.whyquit.com before starting. Hated hours 0 to 24! Started strong at hour 0 and by hour 2 was already starting to panic! Hours 24 to 48 I could never explain and for that period I said at least one time per minute NTAP!!!!!!!! 48 to 72 the panic really let up. I did find myself repeting the commitment often though.
 
Now on to your question. I only had to write because this was one of the top lessons for me. I have been through partial withdrawel so many times the the AHH is a very vivid thing that I understand. You may not really recognize the ahh without thinking it through but it is there and the key to relapse. Think about going to an event that lasts all day. Before you go in you tank up on 5 or 6 butts knowing that will be it for the day. As you leave the event you are barely out the door as you and me and a bunch of others block the walkway as we stop to light up. After all we have been crashing for 8 hours! One half life every two hours in our blood nicotine! The AHH is that moment of instant relief as we get that first rush in 6 to 8 seconds. Oh yes that puff is a very real ahh! Sometimes you will even have to sit for a short moment as the 8 second relief hits you!  A life long friend asked me a question not long ago (he has never had a puff). If nicotine is a stimulant how come people look so relaxed outside leaving the sport event. Easy to answer now, it is the relief of ending the crash! Funny thing is that after that ahh you will smoke 5 or 10 thousand butts waiting for the next ahh!
 
Thank You Joel and John! The first article that made me throw away my supply of new Zyban and a new box of 21 mg patch's was John's How Long Article. Please thank everybody at why quit for passing the information to me that I needed to even have a chance to ever run again.
 
Harry Munroe