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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 12/5/2006 9:23 PM
How recently did you get the bird? How long has she gone without food and water? Are you certain she isn't eating when you aren't looking? Birds cannot live for more than a few days without some food and water.
Yes, she may be depressed but she should show some kinds of interest in something.
I think this bird needs to be vet checked immediately.
Why did the man sell her to you? It is possible she was sick and he knew it. Is she quarantined?
Please call an avian vet today and tell them how serious this is so they will see her immediately. This is really scary.
Best wishes.
Please let us know how she is doing.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameIndy75Sent: 12/5/2006 10:20 PM
I agree with Annie.  This bird first should be in quarantine and be seen by an avian vet.  If he is sick you have exposed your other birds. Even if he wasn't sick he still should be quarantined.
 
But my other thought was since he was an only bird maybe for 13yrs he could be terrified of the other birds.  I would quarantine him in a different room and spend more one on one with him.  Everything is so new to him.
 
Get him to a vet as soon as possible for his sake and your other birds.
 
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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 12/6/2006 1:25 AM
Did the man bring the food she was used to eating? If not, did you get the name of the food?  Some birds don't realize that a new looking food is still food. Even if he was using a not so fabulous food, she may need the same food for now and to be gradually switched to a better diet.
Have you tried thawed frozen mixed veggies? She may not be familiar with them but most birds like the corn and even though it's not a complete diet, it will keep her from starving and has lots of moisture in it.
I think she may just be very cautious around you since you are a complete stranger. Your mannerisms are so different and your voice is so different. An example is my sis in law. She talks in a falsetto voice to my birds instead of her usual deep voice and it scares them. She won't listen to me when I tell her to use her normal voice.
Have you tried sitting quietly by her cage, not looking at her, and reading the newspaper out loud? It will help her to realize you won't hurt her and she will get used to your appearance, your voice and your movements.
I feel sorry for birds who change homes after so long with a first family. I worry about mine in the future when I can no longer care for them.
I sure hope you can find a food she will eat.
If her perch is up high, get a small clip on or screw on bowl and put it up where she sits. I would try anything to get food into her.
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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 12/6/2006 2:18 AM
Excellent. You solved the scary part. Be patient with her now so she won't go nuts on you. Let her watch you for a while before expecting her to get involved with you.
I am so relieved she's eating. Can she reach her water?
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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 12/6/2006 4:21 AM
Most pet stores have small cups with wire hooks on back. Some even have molded in plastic hooks. Very cheap so you can afford to toss them as soon as you can get a larger bowl.  Or save it for emergency use later. She will need a drink after eating dry pellets.
Annie

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From: birdladySent: 12/6/2006 10:59 AM
It's wonderful that your Amazon started eating when you brought the food up to his/her level.  She'll drink when you do the same with the water.  My concern is:  why wouldn't the bird move down to the food cup that has been in the same spot since the cage was purchased?  There's something wrong with this picture!
 
I agree wholeheartedly that this bird should have been quarantined for at least 30 days and completely vet-checked during that time.  Just because she doesn't "seem like a sick bird" doesn't mean she isn't.  Birds are far too intelligent to starve just to make a statement.  Although she's eating now, did she fail to move lower to eat because she has painful arthritis? Gout?  A horrible fear to something in the room?  A vet trip is in order, I think, and some detective work, too.  She will never bond and be socialized if the problem continues to exist.

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From: MSN NicknameNanmeisterSent: 12/7/2006 9:49 PM
Hi Ed!
I am a birdy slave to five amazons myself and one is a female YN. Sometimes it takes them a while to adjust in a new home, and she might possibly be grieving for her old owner and somewhat frightened of her new surroundings.
I would get her checked by the vet as others have suggested because of the dfact that they dont show their illnesses until they become really ill. In the wild a sick bird is prey, so they learn to cover up their problems.
Birdlady brought up gout which amazons can get if they are too fat , but another foot problem for these guys is bumblefoot which can be caused by sitting on hard surfaces  for long periods of time. since she isn't doing a lot of climbing its really a good idea to see why.
Nan

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From: MSN NicknameNanmeisterSent: 12/7/2006 10:08 PM
Naturally after hitting send it dawned on me I hadn't sent these articles on new bird exams and the importance of quarantine..

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