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| | From: The birdlady (Original Message) | Sent: 8/10/2002 5:01 PM |
Hello. My daughter found a nest that had fallen out of a tree and was ruined. Inside where 2 baby birds. By the looks of them they are chickadees. I can't tell the age of them, but they are partially covered with feathers. I've had them for 3 days now and seem to be doing well. I feed them baby cereal witch they don't seem to mind. My question is when do I start to give them other food? They are always hungry, I feed them about every 3 hours with some nibbles inbetween. Any suggestions would be greatly helpful. Thanks. The Birdlady |
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Hi Birdlady, guess what......I don't see the attachments..lol......Okee dokee..by the description of the nest being made mostly of grass..they are a larger bird..maybe Robins. Did the nest have kind of a mud portion underneath where it attached to the limbs? Unfortunately this kind of nest does not do well in a lot of rain because the mud slides off the limb. I'm also guessing that the inside of their mouths are an orange or reddish color with the edges yellow? The babies skins.......are they a dark grey almost black color with a few hair like thingies on the tops of their heads? or like a monks hair do? No, you don't need to feed the babies after about 7 in the evening...wildbirds don't feed at night...unless they are night birds. These don't sound like that kind. Are there any feathers at all on them? Are the eyes open yet? If not....you've got VERY young babies..if they have quills you still have young babies and must keep them warm. A heating pad kept on low should do the trick. You're doing fine by covering them, just make sure it's of light material so they can sit or stand up if they so desire. Also make sure they are in a structure much the shape of their nest. They need to be able to lean on the sides so they are facing up..not flat. Make sure they have enough material to keep their legs under them and not out to the sides to avoid splayed legs. Feed them at shorter intervals for now..until you can give me some more info so I can better estimate their age. I know this sounds like a lot of stuff..and it is. There's a lot to rehabbing but it's worth it when you see them released on their own. Don't worry about them imprinting on you. There will always be some wildlings that stick around longer than others....but when migration season or breeding season comes along...most of their wild instincts return. They also pick up on the other wild birds around you...always a good idea to feed the wildbirds if you're into rehabbing. Try to attach the pics again..lol....I'm SO curious!!!! |
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I'v been having a hard time trying to figure out how to attach files. Thanks for your patience. The Birdlady |
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AAAaawwww...so ADORABLE! Are those feathers blue? Looks like a baby Jay! |
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I do believe I got it. Here is another pic of the little darlings. I read your other message and glad to know I can once again sleep through the night. By the way your info is great. One thing I do know is that their not robins. I truely think they are either chickadees or maybe sparrow. The Birdlady |
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hehehehhhhhhhhhhheeeeeee...I see you have an eyewitness on your shoulder! |
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Crud..I still couldn't tell what color the feathers are...okay....no robin...lol |
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You saw that did you. Well that's Lily, the pride of our family. Still a baby itself. I got lily about 5 days ago. Lily has attached herself to me. No such thing as a cage for her ( I call lily a her ) seeing how she can sit on my shoulder and ride everywhere. Not my first though. Smokie was the last bird which was a cockatiel as well. We moved from B.C. and even though he was family the long ride in the car with 2 kids as well didn't appeal. Lily is only 3-4 months old and is still making the baby sounds along with the 2 babies. They drive me crazy at times but you got to love them. |
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Looks like you identified your own birds!!!! lol...I just finished raising a couple of Grasshopper Sparrows and they were a sheer joy to have around. I'd go ahead and feed them some raw hamburger strips and start putting some seeds out for them too. They will eat both insects and seeds. Sparrows can be very tame and easy to release. They'll probably stick around for a long while..I had one of mine come up to an outdoor cage for a month after it was released...the other one preferred to eat out although I could catch glimpses of it flitting around. They'll also eat up crumbled up bread. If ya happen to catch a grass hopper or a small cricket..go ahead and offer it to them..lol..they'll love it. But, be sure you remove the hoppers, leg hooks and smash the heads! Oh..yeah.....no need for the heating pad or the nest anymore..lol...they are almost ready to be on their own. I'd go ahead and set them up outside in a secure spot that you can see and keep them in if you haven't done so already. When you do let them out of the cage outside...make sure they can get back in...I had one go in to sleep at times till it was ready to stay out. I always left food and water in there..just in case they wanted a meal at home. Have fun with your babies! |
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Hello again, These babies I have are in a container w/ a towel around the edges. I tried the raw hamberger and they like it alot. These babies are getting around but like to hide under the towel. Not ready to fly yet but are starting to get the feathers on the underbelly of them. We live on the 4th floor of an apt. and should I keep them outside or just keep them in like I have been doing? Another thing how often should I be feeding them? Thanks for an info you have offered. The birdlady |
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BirdLady - Try contacting your local Department of Environmental Conservation. They should be able to give you the info you need or can foster/release the birds themselves. There is a place like that near me in NY and they rehabilitate, foster and release (if able to) or adopt (if unable to release). Kat |
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Well...that does prove to be a predicatment for ya! You're doing fine by keeping them in...do you have a balcony to put a cage? If so...you can start keeping them outside in the daytime and bring them in at night. Did you say you were feeding them at 15 minute intervals? I have crs and just don't remember. That's fine...start stretching that time limit out...so you can get to 30 minutes at the intervals over the next week. You'll have to be the judge at how well they are doing at this...and if they seem to be going backwards...start feeding them again at closer intervals until they are ready to stretch that time limit out. Oh...I forgot to mention...it's easier on them if you are presenting their food with tweezers..or hemostats and they won't always associate your hand with food. Sometimes this works..sometimes it doesn't. I've found that when I've got more than one sibling...there is always one that is ahead of the other...use this to your advantage. Let the one ahead..teach the other to eat, drink and bathe. If they aren't drinking water on their own..provide a shallow dish and put a little bread on top to float. When they try to get the bread, they will discover the water.Also, wiggle your fingers in the water to make a little splash....it will attract their attention and they will eventually learn what is causing that splash. Then be prepared for daily baths...lol...they will LOVE the water. Keep food and water in the cage with them..so they can learn to eat it on their own. I never kept hamburger in the cage, but injured grasshoppers, crickets and small mealies were left for them to pick at. They eventually learn how to pick it up and work it to the back of their beaks to their throats. You'll probably have to really work at getting them to eat on their own for the next month. I always give plenty of time for learning since these take so long to learn. Can't learn from their parents...and I don't think you would want to show them first hand how to eat an insect..lol. |
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Thanks feathers for all your help. Everything you have told me is working great. The babies are doing well and are going to be fine. I couldn't have done it without you. I still keep them covered up, do you suggest that I don't? Onething I was wondering though. Show the hamberger be at room temp. or kept in the frig? Thanks again. |
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Hi Birdlady, glad to hear everything is going so well. As far as covering goes...I don't think you need to cover them completely..but if there's a way for you to have a towel hanging in part of the cage so they can snuggle under it if they so wish, they'd be fine. I left a couple of hanging towels in the outside cage even....had em draped over a perch. Most of the time I'd see one lie down on top of it like in a little nest. I kept my hamburger in the fridge. What I found to make it easier is to put about a handful in a ziploc bag..then just took out enough for a feeding and warmed it in my hand. It warmed it just enough so the little buggers gobbled it down..or is that up..anyway they ate it just fine. I found that the hamburger remained fresh in the ziploc for 3 or 4 days, then I'd start a new bag. Didn't waste a whole pound of hamburger that way because we grilled some out too. lol. Don't give me so much credit...I think you had a good handle of what to do for them already. The pics look like healthy happy babies that will do fine on their own when they're ready. There's a lot of work and worry about raising babies like that..and you've been great at it. Let us know of their progress, I'd like to hear when they actually go and maybe come back for visits! |
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Feathers I want to thank you again for all your help and know that with your info. the babies are in good hands. I will keep you up to date. |
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