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Lovebirds : Lovebird genetics ???
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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125  (Original Message)Sent: 2/7/2006 10:22 PM
Firstly, let me apologize for the picture, I really need to bring my camera in more when these little hooligans are out.  I have two lovebirds--sex unknown but I'm leaning toward same-sex pair.  However Puffin (green) has done the paper strips stuck in the rump routine whereas Dolly (pied) has never done that.  I've had a nest box set up, and they've done a wonderful job of turning every bit of shavings and shredder material into sawdust, and do spend an awful lot of time together in there, but so far no eggs.  Anyway, in the off-chance that they do lay eggs, is there any way for me to tell either visually from the two birds or by youngsters what mutations they might be carrying?  I know that Puffin's parents were a "normal" green and a dutch blue...I was able to see both parents and the rest of the clutch at the time Puff came home with me.  I have no idea what recessives Dolly might be carrying, since I never saw the parents.  Puff was the lightest of the youngsters, but once molted into adult colors the forehead band and chest colors are almost indistinguishable.  Not sure if you can see it well, but Puff's rump feathers are also a darker blue.  Is there a dark factor in lovebirds as well?  I know very little about genetics of these guys, having never been serious about trying to breed.  But since others have asked questions about their youngsters, I thought it might be an idea to fantasize about lovie babies around here. 
 


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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 2/8/2006 12:15 AM
Have you been drinking? does Ron know about this?
 
Too2

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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125Sent: 2/8/2006 12:49 AM
No, I haven't...no, he doesn't.  Got my scarlet chested 'keet sitting on two eggs now, it's going to be exciting trying to hide that from him for very long. 

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 2/8/2006 7:39 PM

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From: MSN NicknameOne-old-guySent: 2/11/2006 5:55 PM
Hi mom, I typed a longer reply but lost it. Yes darkfactors can be present ex: slates ( DDF Dutchblue ) .

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From: MSN NicknameZonkersMom125Sent: 2/11/2006 6:20 PM
Thanks for trying the long reply anyway.  Here's a front shot of my two hooligans--still not the greatest though.
 
Puffy being the one on the left, it would be impossible for me to tell that one of the parents was a dutch blue unless I saw the family group, I think.  I checked out the genetics calculator, and if Dolly had the dutch blue recessive it would be a crap shoot (what--about 1 in 64 chance) of knowing it by having a blue baby.  I'd be up to my ears in lovebirds before that happened.
 
Now....if anybody can point me in the right direction to breed the elusive blue bourke parakeet....

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From: birdlady7Sent: 2/11/2006 6:36 PM
I know nothing about lovebird genetics, but I know pretty birds when I see them.  Dolly and Puffin are beautiful!  You really don't want to be up to your ears in lovebirds do you?

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 2/11/2006 9:02 PM
Oh, how pretty they are. I always have thought that pieds were the most beautiful birds I had seen but looking at Puff I have to say, he's a real beauty, every bit as beautiful as Dolly.  I love lovies' smooth look.  If the way they stand makes any difference, like folks used to say, then Puff is male and Dolly is female.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknametwinpineskennelSent: 5/13/2007 3:50 PM
what you have is probably a regular pf and a lutino, although the lutino does look like it may be dark factor (for a lutino)
but lutino is a sex-linked gene, so all the babies will be green pf:)

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