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Lovebirds : Introducing new lovebird?
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From: west coast mom  (Original Message)Sent: 4/20/2003 11:01 PM
I have a male peach faced that is 1.3 years old. I have a new female that is 6 mos old and is housed in a separate cage in a separate room for now. they can hear eachother and talk back and forth though. as we are going to put them in the same room, but still in separate cages for now, we have "introduced" them to eachother the last couple of days. my male is very curious of her and keeps trying to bite at her toes. it doesn't seem like he is doing it hard and he stops when she chirps at him loudly, but he still really goes for them. she is also very curious of him and if he's in his cage, she'll fly over to his cage to check him out & vice versa. I'm worried about this feet biting though.... is this common... or will he lop a toe off??? how do you tell if it gets to aggressive??? Also, how do you tell if "beak fencing" is playing or turning into a real fight? thanks!


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From: DonHoSent: 4/21/2003 12:58 AM
So is that 1.3 years old or 13 years old for your male?  Regardless, you need to be careful letting these two play together - the male is an adult and the female is just starting to mature.  Normally with two adult birds the female is usually dominant and you have to watch her so that she doesn't hurt the male.  In this situation I would try to make sure the male doesn't get too aggressive.  Watch the toes - that's normally the first place they go.  Usually it's just a nip, but it's not too unusual with peachfaces to end up with bleeding and severed toes.
 
The beak fencing is quite often playing and can be a sign of affection if they are feeding each other.  Best to keep an eye on them when they do this however, so that it doesn't escalate into nipping and chasing of one bird by the other.
 
I think setting the hen's cage next to the males is a good idea along with some supervised play together outside the cage.  I would not put them in the same cage together untill she is about a year old.  Has the female gone through a quarantine period?  Also, if she starts to bond with the male she may not be as friendly toward you.
 
DonHo

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From: RingneckSent: 4/21/2003 1:10 AM
To add to DonHo's excellent comment- are the bird's wings clipped. If not - clip the male's wings shorter and leave the younger bird's wing longer so that she can really get away if aggressive play becomes to rough. I did this when introducing a young female to my very old male as he was aggressive in the first 2 face-to-face incounters. It worked like a charm as whenever he went "after her toes" - she could fly off th a near perch and he couldn't (one try and he knew where his place was!) It too about a month of every day play for them to become really good friends.
Good luck! 

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From: west coast momSent: 4/21/2003 5:38 AM
thanks for your reply. my male is 1 year & 3 months. he was "bird raised" and not a hand fed baby, but has become very tame and extremely affectionate (other than he does not like it when you touch his food / treats). will the fact that he was raised by his parents allow him to be more accepting of his new friend? my female was hand fed but she wasn't handled for a few months and wasn't taken care of very well (i took her from a lady that didn't want her) for the first week i had her i thought she was mean as the lady said she bites and boy did she ever! but after a week, no more biting!  3 weeks later and she is the sweetest little bird and very gentle! she hadn't been around other birds for those 3 months the lady had her & she has been "quarantined" from my male for 3 weeks now. is that long enough? i did have her examined by an avian vet as well. i will wait to see if they can "live together" until she is a year old. my male has a very large cage, with flight room. would it be ok to introduce her to HIS cage when she is a year old then?

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From: west coast momSent: 4/21/2003 5:41 AM
RE: THE WING CLIPPING IDEA.
sounds like a great idea but i have a problem! my male is fully flighted and has always been. and, unfortunately, the lady that owned my female had her wings SEVERELY clipped. as a result, she has poor balance and is not very confident! i'm waitng for them to grow out so she can get some flying lessons!

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From: DonHoSent: 4/22/2003 12:37 AM
I really don't like it when someone touches MY food/treats either!  Anyway, I have not noticed much difference in bird-to-bird bonding between hand raised pet LBs and parent raised birds.  I have one bird that was raised for almost seven years as a pet in a one bird household - I can't seem to get him interested in a female.  I think he thinks he's human.  Otherwise I have a good mix of hand raised pets and parent- raised not so friendly birds that seem to have no problem pairing up.
 
Glad to hear that your new hen has become tame again.  They usually do if originally hand raised and given sufficient time and attention.
 
I quarantine for a minimum of 30 days and have heard of people that go for 45 up to 90 days.  I think 30 to 45 days is sufficient.
 
You should always introduce a hen to a male in HIS or a neutral cage.  Hens (especially mature ones) tend to become very possessive about their cages and want to fight off any intruders.  Introduce in his cage or a neutral one - definitely not hers.  Also the bigger the cage the better, so it sounds like his ideal. 
 
DonHo
 
 

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From: west coast momSent: 4/22/2003 8:18 PM
thanks for your help. i will keep her apart from my male for another 2 weeks. then they will be cage by cage for awhile with supervised play time. seeing as my male is fully flighted, should i keep my female's wings clipped? so if they start to fight, only one of them can take off and not be chased by the other? i was hoping to let her wings grow in so she can gain more balance and confidence.... ahhhhhh, i really hope they will get along......time will tell.....they would make such a cute lil' pair!

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From: MSN NicknameEvil_BlackbeardSent: 10/14/2003 8:11 PM
I have the same problem with my two lovebirds. How did things work out for your two? Did they ever get along? Jim

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From: MSN NicknameTresa2004Sent: 3/4/2004 8:06 PM
Hi,
I have introduced two females to a couple using the method
donho suggests. I was very successful. Make sure that
there is enough room and always several routes for
escape. Females are generally thought to be the more assertive
of the two.
I find it is rare for them to go like killer bees after the new one if she can get away at a good distance.
Eventually, how is it said...familiarity leads to acceptance?
:)
 

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