Lexicon said they are about 10.5 inches, that sounded a little larger than the regular keets I am used to.  O well, doesn't really matter.  I will see them on the 14th of Aug. I'll let you know what happens.  
   Amy that is a good picture, most of the ones I found on the web were very poor.   I did find one ad that had all colors, even splits and blues, there were some really pretty ones.  I would imagine these are the so called normals.
   If I get them I will post a picture.  Thanks for all your input.
 Judy