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From: MSN Nicknamegsees  (Original Message)Sent: 5/22/2007 7:57 AM
my tiels are an unproven pair.
but smokey keeps laying. shes been sitting on 3 eggs for 2 weeks now,
and today i caught her  eating one?
 what does this mean?  i threw away the egg, but i'm not sure i did the right thing.
gsees


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From: MSN NicknamemomnoahSent: 5/22/2007 8:03 AM
She probably realized the egg was not fertile and was "removing it" from the nest in the only way availabe to her. Have you candled the eggs? Have you seen them breeding?

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From: MSN NicknamegseesSent: 5/22/2007 8:20 AM
havent candled the eggs. they are very territorial of the cage, and i dont want to upset smokey who is sitting on her eggs.
 i have seen them breed.
i havent done anything to encourage, like nesting box or anything.
 i'm not ready for babys. the male is very attentive in his grooming smokey and all. its so sweet. like little lovers.
  i hate to separate them becuz theyve been cage mates for so long.
if they have babys anyway, i'll deal with it. thety seem persistant.
gsees

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From: MSN NicknamemomnoahSent: 5/22/2007 10:59 AM
Cockatiels can be very persistant, to the point of laying eggs over and over until they produce babies. Are the eggs on the cage floor or a grate? If they are on a grate, they will be unlikely to hatch as they can't be properly kept warm. On the cage floor, the chances are better. It the eggs hatch, is should be soon as they can start hatching  between 17 and 22 days depending on several factors. You should prepare yourself just in case they do hatch. You will need to feed the parents soft "egg" food- easier on the parents and babies. You will have to watch carefully to be sure they do feed the babies properly. Many times parents don't get it right the first time and if you don't help out, the babies will die. You might want to get some hand feeding formula to have on hand. Even if you don't hand feed you can add it to the soft food.
 
I use various combinations of what I happen to have on hand at the time. Usually several of the following: rice, barley, pasta, lentils, split peas, fresh and/or frozen mixed veggies (thawed) - chopped up, rolled oats, seed (usually a mix of 'no mess cockatiel', parakeet, finch and canary seeds), a small amount finely chopped nuts, chopped boiled or scrambled eggs w/shells, grated mineral block and either powdered pellets or hand feeding formula. I don't usually add fruits because most of my 'tiels don't seem to care much for fruit and won't eat it. Use what your birds like. most of the above freezes well. I freeze it in ice cube trays then put it in zip bags and taking out as needed. If your birds have never had anything like this, it might take them a little while to start eating iut. Don't leave it in too long at a time, but keep offering it to them.
  
How old are your 'tiels and how long have they been together? If you don't want babies, seperate them. You might try getting a divided cage, for some, this works.

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From: MSN NicknamegseesSent: 5/22/2007 6:49 PM
thanks for the info.
they seem to enjoy couscous, and cream of wheat.
most the foods you listed i have in the house. so its not a problem feeding them.
  the eggs were sitting on the bottom of the wire cage, on the wires , so i put a piece of material in there and put the eggs on them.
  birds protested as i did it, but she still has them on the material.
i hope they stay there, shes kinda picky about those eggs.
  i know i should probly separate them, i just wonder if it would traumatize them. i had gotten them from a friend, so i'm not sure how old they are. just know they were cage mates for a long time.
  life is interesting with birds isnt it?
gsees
 

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From: MSN NicknamemomnoahSent: 5/23/2007 10:28 AM
Life is never dull with birds, kids and critters. Unless that critter is a Box-Turtle. Mine (Frances) is so quiet and rarely any trouble, except when the kids get distracted and let her get away in the house. Then the house gets turned upside down to find what she's crawled under. Sorry, getting off track here...
 
It's good that your birds eat some "table" food. I hope they try some of the other stuff too. Couscous is good, and cream of wheat. If they like the consistancy of that they might eat mixed up hand feeding formula. It would be a good thing to feed if the eggs hatch. Mine also love potatoes (all kinds), sprouted/soaked seeds & beans, air-popped popcorn (no fats or salts), unsweetened cereal, and just about any kind of breads. These last three they only get a very small amount once in a while as a treat.
 
As for the seperating, some pairs tolerate being seperated better than others, and I really think it depends on the individuals. One of my 2 pairs, Sonny & Pearl are like night and day. While both are semi-tame, Sonny hates leaving his cage and rarely does unless he's been spooked, even if I leave the cage wide open all day. Pearl on the other hand loves getting out and will often go into someone elses cage to nap away from Sonny. If they are seperated too long though, Sonny will call, talk, whistle, sing and pace in the cage relentlessly even though the door is open and he could easily go over to Pearl if he wanted to. He'll stop eating until they are reunited. This is regardless of breeding season- if in fact tiels have one... (I say that half in jest because 'tiels seem not to pay too close attention to seasons and breed at will)  Silly birds. The second pair, Domino and Penny seem to be fine with being seperated in a divided cage most of the time now, although it did take them a while to adjust to the barrier between them. They've only been seperated for a short time, so only time will tell how they will react when hormonal. All we can do is try.

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From: MSN NicknamegseesSent: 5/24/2007 3:19 AM
thank you...any imput i can get on tiels is useful.
we have fish too, they dont do much, and we always know where they are  LOL.
  gsees

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From: MSN NicknameCopperlyneSent: 5/24/2007 12:17 PM
Not all fish stay where you put them. We were given a strange looking one many years ago. Think it was called the dragon fish, it was certainly weird. It had a modified type of lung and could be out of the water for several minutes at a time... We actually had to put a screen on the top of the tank and weight it down, so that he couldn't escape!

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From: MSN NicknamegseesSent: 5/25/2007 1:46 AM
wow!
gsees

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From: MSN NicknameCopperlyneSent: 5/25/2007 1:43 PM
Thought that would bring a smile.
For every 'rule' there is an exception!

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From: MSN NicknamemomnoahSent: 5/26/2007 9:51 AM
True! Always are exceptions.. and sometimes the exceptions have help!
I had a 40 gallon fish tank that I had placid community type fish in... mollies, sword tails, platties, guppies, neons, a few black skirted tetras, a couple bala sharks, a couple pictus cats and a plecostomus. One day I noticed I was missing a fish... it wasn't in the tank anywhere, nor did I find it on the floor. I was thinking maybe the cat, but didn't see how she could get the lid open, get a fish and close the lid without any noise or getting any water anywhere. The tank was on a stand in the corner and a couch was next to it along the wall. not a drop of wateroutside the tank. As the days went by, the fish disappeared one or two at a time, much to my frustration. Then one day I was watching a movie while laying on the couch and I dozed off. I woke to a few quiet noises that weren't normal. Metal tapping glasss & plastic. Plastic on plastic and faint splashing of water. I stayed still and just opened my eyes. There was the mystery sloved and the culprit caught.  There stood Sarah, back feet on the arm of the couch, front feet on the tank stand, lid open and her nose barely off the top of the water with just whiskers sticking in. She just stood there til a fish came to investigate and slurp, she sucked it right up. Dang dog!
Guess who rearanged the livingroom that afternoon?

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