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Tiels N Conures : HELP! Shes going bald!!!
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From: lildee  (Original Message)Sent: 7/30/2008 5:19 PM
Hi, I was given 4 tiels by a very known and respected breeder. The birds have been recently moved into a larger cage/habitat, and have lots more room, toys, tree branches to play with and on.
Heres the thing; three of four are doing great, they are starting to adjust and sing and stuff. They are seperated into two parts. male/female pairs. Elvis and Echo are happy, playful and loud. Lokee is as quiet and calm as he has always been, but is roommate, Lizzie, is very high strung! She alsways has been. When we first got her, she would excite the others easily and still does.
Two days ago, I noticved a patch of what looked to be a plucked area on her crest (head plume) and it gets worse. Lately and up to today, the plucked area has reached her face and around her cheeks. I took pics as best as I could, because she is so easily startled they are blurry.
Lokee has always hissed and reacted to her, could he be plucking her? Should I seperate them? I was told that it could possibly be a mating thing. He could be pulling her face feathers because he is tying t get her to nest. Is this possible?


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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 7/30/2008 5:39 PM
There is no way she could pluck her own face or head, so it seem it has to be the cage mate..
 
Sounds to me that they are not getting along and he is being a bit aggressive...
 
Seperate them before an accident happens and he takes the aggression a step further...

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From: MSN Nicknameladybyrdbell1961Sent: 7/30/2008 5:52 PM
Agree with Etta on this one!  This sometimes happens when the birds are frustrated for one reason or another.  Years ago, we thought that our tiel would appreciate a roommate!  That only lasted a few days - she bit off a couple of his toes and picked his whole head bald!  He looked like one of the three stooges.  That's how his name was changed from HARVEST to BUZZY.  He looked like a buzzard.  His crest never did grow back right.  To this day, he sometimes sports a curly cue on top. 
Crystal
 

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From: lildeeSent: 7/30/2008 9:39 PM
Wow, thats kinda what we thought, we were just really hoping for other options, lol. Okay, she will be solo in about 5 minutes!

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 7/30/2008 9:47 PM
Buzzy is more endearing now that he's lost the normal crest...
How many can say they have the curl?
 
 
I'm glad Lildee that you will have them apart from each other... They can really get aggressive and many unfortunate accidents do happen as Crystal says, but then, many deaths also take place...  
 
When I had my aviary all I would allow was one day of squabbles and then on went the hard hat, heavy gloves, jacket and carrying a net I ventured into the disagreement and got it from both birds for invading their territory... Saved two lives while risking my own  kidding as my breeders were mostly tame... just not that you would know it during a domestic dispute.
 
 

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From: lildeeSent: 7/30/2008 10:39 PM
well, that was interesting, lol. When my husband went in to get her (I cant as the shreiking upsets me and Im scared that they're getting hurt) She flew right into his hand while Lokee (the aggressor) got out and was quite happy to walk around the living room and socailise with me. These birds have never been handled prior to us having them and we are going easy with ttraining them. When my husband picked up lokee, he even had some millet from me while being held!
Lizzie is much happier in with the other two and seems to have saked out her favoite spot already. There's been no jelousy, aggression, or fighting with the three now, so I hope it works out well.
I will kepp you posted, thanks for the advice. I sure hope her face feathers DO grow back!

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 7/30/2008 11:18 PM
Remember "two's company and three's a crowd" when they share a cage...
Keep an eye out that all three remain friends!
What do you feel you have in the cage... 2 males and 1 female or 2 females and 1 male... I will be surprised if this arrangement works out for the long term... Maybe you could check around for a cage for Lizzie...
 
You may end up like the rest of us... more bird cages than furniture!!

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From: MSN NicknameIndy75Sent: 7/31/2008 1:56 AM
I'm only commmenting cause I have a question on Cockatiels. I would assume that two males might fight over one female.  Does that happen with 2 females fighting over a male.  I figure it could.
 
But heres my question.  I've noticed some people with small birds put more than one in a cage.  So is there a problem with only 2 in a cage if they are both male?  Or even 2 females?
 
Figured someone would comment.  When we had parakeets when I was a kid no one at that time knew if they were male or females but we always had 2 at a time.  Just wondering what we had.  They seemed to get along.
 
Indy

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From: lildeeSent: 7/31/2008 5:41 PM
Well, Scotts, right you were, again! lol. I am moving her into her very own, private cage! My hubby is working on building her her own habitat now. Seems she will just have to be a loner :( he is being severely picked at and my heart goes out to her. I was unpopular in school, I guess I relate, lol. I just want her to be happy. The good news is that I can move her with me wherever I am working. I am a stay at home Artist, I move from room to room to work on different sketches, depending where the best lighting is. I hope to be able to get her to trust and bond with me. Maybe, with her being on her own, she will do that earlier.

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 7/31/2008 5:54 PM

Remember Lildee she really isn't a loner and will probably enjoy the whistles and interactions from the other birds, she'll just enjoy it more from a distance.

There will be a much better chance at bonding with her... don't hurry it along, just keep on talking to her.. in other words talk out loud about anything and that will help her with trust to hear an even tone voice... Usually we make the mistake of altering our voices and octave or too and this can make some birds very uncomfortable especially if the pitch is higher than our normal tone... She might see you as being a predator and not associate this to the normal "you."

I believe she will end up being a lot of fun for you and a great companion..

You mentioned being an artist... can you explain further and give us some insight? I would like to hear about it, if you'd like to share!

 


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From: lildeeSent: 7/31/2008 8:26 PM
Sure, I love talking and sharing my work! I sketch wildlife and the occasional domestic animal. I do alot of charcoal work and even haev done some faeries and dragons for custom requests. Several years ago, I was asked to do an activity/Coloring book for the local childrens ward at the hospital, which was fun. But, my reall passion is carving glass. I etch, carve, engrave. Whatever is handy. Of course, I have a special room that the birds cant go in for that. I got into dng clothing art ( transfering paintings and stuff onto hats/shirts etc) and have just recently begun studding the artwork. Like, if I do a night sky, I will stud certain constellaations in tiny chrystals, or use silver studs for borders and patterns. I once tried a maccaw, with chrystal studs for eyes, but it wasnt great. They are hard to perfect! lol
I will take your advice with Lizzie ery seriously. I moved her to the living room so that she can be with me. She is totally transfixed on the tv. She's never seen one before! Does anyone know, can birds see tv screens, or are they only capable of real, multidementional vision? Whatever it is, she loves it!

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From: MSN NicknameJiggyJigsawSent: 8/1/2008 1:12 AM
Lildee, I have four birds, all different species, and each has his or her own cage. I have two side by side on one wall, and two side by side on the adjacent wall, so they can see each other and interact verbally. They are good company for each other. They also have a TV in here that I leave on for them when I go to work.
 
I can't even have mine out at the same time, but each has time out with me one on one.
 
Abby

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