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Adam; Satan : Animal Sacrifices
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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 6/10/2005 11:40 PM

~ Animal Sacrifices ~

Today is Thursday, Dec. 16, 2004. This message will deal with many questions about the animal sacrifices of the OT. This subject is completely misunderstood. Almost everyone assumes that God ordained these animal sacrifices. But is this true? Did God every at ANY time accept the blood of animals? Was He ever at ANY time pleased with this matter of killing animals for sacrifice? Did God ever find any pleasure in these sacrifices? If not, then by whom, when and why were these types of sacrifices set up? These are questions which need Scriptural answers. So, in this message I will give the pure Scriptural truth on this matter. Let’s start with this:

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Now the above shows that the law was only a shadow of the good things to come in the NT. You see here that the sacrifices of animals was offered by the law. It said this could never make the people perfect. If it had, they would never have had to kill another animal. I have heard many people say this animal offering covered the people’s sins for a year at a time or rolled them back. I cannot find that anywhere in the Scriptures. If any of you know of such a scripture, please show me where it is. Until someone shows me that in the Word, I am going to assume that this is a false concept, just as it is a false concept that God is the one who instituted animal sacrifices. See verse three shows that those sacrifices brought their sins into remembrance, not covered them up.

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

This is Jesus speaking. Jesus said that God never wanted those sacrifices and offerings. That is what ‘thou wouldest not�?means. Jesus said, In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin God had no pleasure in that. Now that is Jesus�?words. Do you believe him?

Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

Jesus said he is the one who did the will of God, not those animals. He repeats here for confirmation, that God had no pleasure in those sacrifices which are offered by the LAW.

Now did God ever want anyone to be under law? Everyone seems to be mistaken here also. They all seem to think that God himself put the people under law. But is this true? No, it is a lie. That law is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Did God tell anyone to partake of that tree? No! He commanded Adam NOT to eat of that tree. God told Adam that the law would bring death. And so it did. Remember the above Scripture, that the animal sacrifices were offered by the LAW.

Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Now he tells us that Jesus took away that first covenant of law, and established the second covenant of grace. By this second covenant we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ and this is one time forever. It perfect us and we never have a consciousness of sins again.

Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Again it says that those animal sacrifices could never take away sins. So why would God require this? The one offering of Jesus satisfied God and Jesus sat down at rest from his labour to give us birth.

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

See with the offering of Jesus our sins are never remembered again. This is the only time sins were ever remitted.

Isa 1:7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

Who is God speaking to here?

Eze 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

This is the anointed cherub [ox] in the Garden of Eden. He was lifted up in pride and said I am a God. I sit in the seat of God among men [in the midst of the seas]. But God said to him, You are just a man. So this anointed cherub was a MAN. He was not an angel. I will prove in another message that a cherub does not mean a literal angel. I will also prove that this Adam. But for now, just accept it. It is too much to try and place into one message. Tonight I am dealing with these animal sacrifices.

Almost everyone says this cherub, the Son of the morning, is a spirit being, Satan. But see here that God said this is just a MAN. Whom do you believe?

Eze 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffic hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

[This is the Rich Man, Adam]. His heart was lifted up in pride because of his riches. He came to Jesus and said worship me and I will set you up as king. So He thought he was king of the whole world. Why would he think that? Because he was the original son of God, whom God had given dominion of this earth. That is what it means he was the anointed cherub that coverth, and God set him so. It was God’s own Son. Who else would God give dominion of this earth to? A Son inherits his Father’s estate, not some other being.

Eze 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Now who are these strangers who come against this evil kingdom of first-man Adam? The true Christians, God’s witnesses, are called the Strangers all through the Word. We are STRANGERS and pilgrims in this earth. Let the Word interpret this to you! This is speaking of the second witness, the one with the Baptism of Fire. Fire proceeds out of their mouth to devour their enemies, Adam. As in Adam all die. Death is the enemy. The law brought us to death. Adam partook of that law. He wanted to rule as God. He said I am God. He had told Eve God knows that we will be as gods. This proves it is what Adam wanted, to be God. Now it said they [the strangers] shall bring thee down to the pit. What is that?

Eze 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Here again we are told that this is just a man and not God. He shall die by the hand of these Strangers. Read Psm. 149.

Re 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

See here is where and how this rich man was brought down to the PIT. [verse 8]. Lets read Isa. 1:7 again:

Isa 1:7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

See, this is speaking to this anointed cherub in Eze. 28. This whole earth was his country, for he had been given dominion over it. This was his anointing from God. But see that at some time it is prophesied that his cities will be burned with fire. This is that fire coming out of the mouth of the witnesses to devour our enemies. This evil kingdom of Satan, Adam, is our enemy. STRANGERS devour his country in his presence. Why is it desolate? Jesus pronounced it desolate. Since that time, the strangers have been set to destroy it with fire and bring him down to the pit.

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

I had not meant to go this route, but it is how God is leading so I always see it was great when God leads me into something I had not intended to write. This is great.

I heard a message just today where one says this anointed cherub was an angel, Satan. And in the same message he goes to the great wisdom of Adam because he named all the animals. So see that this is speaking of the same being, Adam, Lucifer, Satan, the old serpent, the devil. This chapter conclusively proves this is the same being. It is God’s Son turned bad.

See that here it speaks of his great wisdom? Yes, this is Adam. He was God’s Son so of course he was very wise. None other was like him. He was perfect in beauty. Why? Because he was the greatest of God’s creation. Now since I have gone this route, let’s just complete this chapter and show you the proof of this.

Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

This being had been in Eden the garden of God. So who was it? It was God’s Son, Adam. This description is of the entire kingdom. Adam is a kingdom, just as God is a kingdom. Human is a kingdom. Satan is a kingdom. Many members, yet just one body. When will people grow up in understanding? God grant it soon.

Now look. His tabrets of pipes was prepared in him the day he was CREATED. What are tabrets of pipes? It is musical instruments. Now who made the first musical instruments? It was Adam’s son, Cain. See that this ability was created inside him? So it was also inside his son.

Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Adam was perfect in the day he was created, but he became lifted up in pride and wanted to be God. Iniquity was then found in him. This is typed out in Absalom and David as Absalom wanted to become king in place of David.

Remember the Word says Satan was a liar and a murder from the beginning. This speaks of from the beginning of his being evil and becoming the devil. I will show this to you and how he was a murder and a liar.

Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Merchandise has been the ‘trademark�?of Adam’s kingdom from the beginning. Cain [also part of this Satanic kingdom] went out and built the first city. Cain also killed his brother. Now remember that Rev. 18 speaks of the destruction of the mystery Babylon city of which Satan was the KING. It said she was a merchandizing city, right? It said she was guilty of all the blood shed on this earth from Abel down, did it not? Then this proves that the city of Adam, or his kingdom reaches all the way from the days of Adam until the ultimate destruction of his kingdom at the end of the world. How could anyone not see this? It is beyond my understand how one could be too blind to see something this clearly laid out. If you can’t see this, it is because you willfully close your own eyes.

He said I will CAST THEE as profane OUT of the mountain of God. So who was CAST out of Eden? Adam. Show me where anyone else was cast out. Please! If this does not identify this as Adam to you, you are deceiving your own heart.

Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

People are so carnal minded they thing God changed some animal creature [the serpent] and made him into a literal reptile snake. Now that is the height of deception and carnality. They say when God placed him into the dust and said upon thy belly shall thy go, they think this means God placed the snake to crawl around on the ground on his belly. The Word of God is spiritual. This is total carnality. Dust is the earthly, material things. Belly means mortal beings. Casting him to the ground means God cast him out of Eden to till the ground from whence he was taken. God placed him into a dust, mortal body. Here again people are so into darkness they think it means God killed a lamb and put the lamb’s skin on them. Shew. Such carnality and ignorance of the Word. God placed them into this human, mortal skin right there. This is how he was placed into dust and made to go on his belly. Dust shall be the serpent’s meat. This means merchandizing. It means earthly, material, riches, and such things. It means the serpent would have no more spiritual things.

Now let another prophet further prove this.

Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Now this shows the day of Pentecost, when Jesus took of the twain, Jews and Gentiles [the strangers] and made them both into ONE NEW MAN. They will never be divided again. Yet every church believes they are divided and that God will yet turn back to the nation of old Israel. It is just lies. Here the strangers and the Jews were joined into one spiritual nation. It will never be divided again. Our own land, their own land, is grace, the Holy Ghost.

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

Now I know this is a lot of Scripture, but it is the only way to clear this up. Since I have gone this route, I may as well do a good job of this. I certainly did not mean to go into this when I started this message. But unless you see through this that Adam is Satan, you will not truly understand when I show you who started the animal sacrifices. All of this is tied together.

Now see that the above Scripture shows we are speaking of the same being in Eze. 28, the king of Babylon? It is the same one. See it shows that his was the golden city. It was this entire earth kingdom. He ruled over this flesh kingdom. That is why we must deny our flesh and walk in the spirit to ever be free.

Revelation shows that Babylon was a total merchandizing city. Re 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

See here that it was decked with gold and precious stones as described in Eze. 28.

Isa 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Now this is speaking of that being, Lucifer, in the Garden of Eden. This proves it. He said I will exalt my throne above the satrs of God. I will be like the most High. Now where did he acquire a ‘throne�?from? It was when God gave His Son dominion over this earth. I hear people all the time saying that Adam handed it over to Satan. Where is even one Scripture teaching this? I know of none. This is exactly why so much false doctrine infiltrates the whole earth and almost no one knows the real truth. People, ministers, just make up stuff and fail to study and just accept lies someone else has made up. They teach it and drill it into people so much that they all think it has to be true.

See here it bears witness that this one will be brought into the pit, same as Rev. and Eze. said. This is our three witnesses of this matter.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Notice verse 16 again declares that this is just a MAN, not an angel. They now see him as the weak man that he really was all the time!

Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: Isa 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Eze 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.

See here it shows that this ‘Assyrian�?is speaking of Adam. He is the one who was lifted up in pride in that Garden.

Eze 31:4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto all the trees of the field. 31:5 Therefore his height was exalted above all the trees of the field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth. 31:6 All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all great nations.

Eze 31:7 Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters. 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty. 31:9 I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 3/17/2006 5:15 PM
Who set up animal sacrifices?   Study this message.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/24/2006 1:48 AM
<NOBR>Isa 14:12</NOBR> How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

<NOBR>Isa 14:16</NOBR> They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

<NOBR>Isa 14:19</NOBR> But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
<NOBR>Isa 14:20</NOBR> Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
<NOBR>Isa 14:21</NOBR> Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.


Now,  this again says Lucifer was a MANnot an angel.

Ever hear of angels dying and being buried?  How and when did they have children?

No,  this is God's Son, Adam.

God's Son, Adam is the one and only being whom God ever anointed and told to rule this earth.  Then He rebelled and so God then anointed his other Son, Jesus.

<NOBR>Job 7:17</NOBR> What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?


Now dear souls,  here is solid PROOF from God's word,  that God only gave dominion of this earth to MAN,  not the heavens (angels) or stars(angels).

<NOBR>Ps 8:3</NOBR> When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
<NOBR>Ps 8:4</NOBR> What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
<NOBR>Ps 8:5</NOBR> For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
<NOBR>Ps 8:6</NOBR> Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
<NOBR>Ps 8:7</NOBR> All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
<NOBR>Ps 8:8</NOBR> The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.


See this shows exactly what is said to the one God anointed and told to have dominion over this entire earth.  It was  MAN,  NOT AN ANGEL.

God never at any time gave dominion of this earth to any angel.


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