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Adam; Satan : History of the serpent
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 6/19/2007 5:50 PM

History of the serpents, as told by Jesus Christ:

Mt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Mt 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Mt 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

Mt 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Now, let’s examine what Jesus is telling us here. He is giving us a history of the serpents. Now some would have us believe that Jesus is really talking about snakes, as in snake. So let’s just see. Do snakes sit in Moses�?seat? What is Moses�?seat? It is the LAW. Yes, big, bad law. They pull others down under this heavy load of law, but they themselves do not bother with it. They laid these heavy burdens on other men’s shoulders, but would not move them with one of their fingers. Serpents! Jesus is explaining the real nature of these snakes, these vipers, these scorpions.

They do all of their works, (building great tall Cathedrals, and large congregations, etc), to be seen of men. They love to be admired and called fancy titles, such as ‘pastor�? reverend, (yes, especially reverend!). And now for the most revealing trait�?they love the uppermost rooms at feasts and the CHIEF SEATS in SYNAGOGUES. Yes sir. There sit your serpents, opps, meant snakes, right up there in front of the whole congregation, seeking the admirations of all, worship. They love to be greeted in the markets = out in public, as Rev. so and so. Yep. That is their nature. Serpents!

I am not going to quote all of Matthew 23, but you really should give this chapter a good, close study. It is a full description of the serpent or snake, whichever one you wish to call him. But I do want to point out a few like this: Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Now that is a good whammy against these snakes in the dens. They sure love to rob poor widows and widowers. Yep, say they, you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven unless you pay ME your TITHES. And so the unsuspecting victims fall prey to these prancing horses.

Now mind you, these are not small, unlearned, humble righteous men. No sir! These are the high-up, well educated religious leaders of the Jews! These are the men who hold others under that law, without mercy. Mt 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Mt 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Mt 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Mt 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

They are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch, hell. They are outwardly appearing to be righteous unto men, but within they are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. You were perfect in the day you were created until iniquity was found in you, Adam.

Here is a meaning of serpent from Strong’s Greek: 3708 ; TDNT - 5:315,706; v
AV - see 37, appear 17, look 2, show (one's) self 1, being seen 1; 58
1) to look at, behold
2) to allow one's self to be seen, to appear

Here is what he said about ‘viper�? AV - viper 5; 5
1) a viper, offspring of vipers
1a) addressed to cunning, malignant, wicked men

Here is the Hebrew for serpent: 05172 // vxn // nachash // naw-khash' //

a primitive root; TWOT - 1348; v
AV - enchantment 4, divine 2, enchanter 1, indeed 1, certainly 1,
learn by experience 1, diligently observe 1; 11
1) to practice divination, divine, observe signs, learn by experience,
diligently observe, practice fortunetelling, take as an omen
1a) (Piel)
1a1) to practice divination
1a2) to observe the signs or omens

Does that look like a natural, literal, reptile snake to you? They are the hypocrites religious leaders.

And here is the Strongs Hebrew for Adam;

from 0119 ; TWOT - 25a; n m
AV - man 408, men 121, Adam 13, person(s) 8, common sort
+ 07230 1,
hypocrite
1; 552 (Now surely, any half-way intelligent person can clearly see here that serpent (hypocrite) and Adam (hypocrite) are one and the SAME?

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Mt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

We need this also, showing that these serpents were the murders of all the righteous people who ever were slain, even to the death of Abel. Who was guilty there? Cain of course. So this clearly identifies Jerusalem as one and the same with these serpents and vipers. Jerusalem, Adam, you are the serpent. The serpent is SATAN. Proof? OK, here it is:

Re 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,�?now either you must accept this Scripture, proclaiming that the Devil, and Satan are the same as the old serpent and the dragon. They are all included here as one and the same.

Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Mt 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.t 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Mt 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Now Jesus has told these serpents that they already killed all the righteous saints and prophets, and that they will yet murder all the righteous people He will send to them. And so they did, for Stephen on down. The serpents murdered all the righteous people who were ever slain. So this fully describes the serpents as the murders of the righteous. These same serpents murdered the Son of God, Jesus.

Proceed on down to Revelation. Re 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Re 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Now remember that the serpents in Matt. 23 placed the heavy burden of law upon the people. So here we see that same thing, that red dragon, the same old serpent, appearing in heaven, (the spirit realm) with the seven heads and ten horns, that law. See that law is on that dragon, not the woman. The Pharisees placed that heavy burden of law on the people. Jesus said so. Peter verified in Acts 15 that the law was this heavy burden, which none of them could bear. So here we see that that heavy burden was part of this red dragon, or serpent.

What was this dragon (serpent) wanting to do? Devour this woman’s child as soon as it was born. This is the seed of the WOMAN. Keep this in mind.

Now here is proof that this dragon is the same as the old serpent: Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

See it said the great (great?) dragon is that OLD SERPENT. That is the one from the Garden of Eden. So now this solidly places those religious, hypocrite Pharisees as this dragon, or old serpent.

Did not they stand before the woman to devour her child? Did not they devour her child? Did not they murder Jesus? Sure they did. Else the Word of God is lying to us.

So now, where did those serpents come from? That is what we are teaching in this message, their history. Let God tell us, and no one else. Get the answers from Scripture.

But first, let’s conclude this chapter in Rev. 12. Re 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. Re 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

See that the serpent cast out of his mouth, (or speakers) a flood of water to cause the woman to be carried away of the flood. See, he is trying to kill her seed with a flood, as God sent a flood against his first kingdom. But notice verse 16 says that the DRAGON is the one who cast out of his mouth this flood. Now is there a serpent casting out a flood, and also a dragon? Or isn’t it much more sensible to conclude that this serpent is the same as this dragon? Of course that is the answer.

Now back to their origin;

John 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

Notice this is speaking about the same group which Jesus addressed in Matt. 23, the scribes and Pharisees, the very ones he called serpents and vipers. Notice their objective here. They have brought a woman to be stoned according to the LAW. See they are the ones who laid that heavy burden upon the others. They prove here, by their walking away, that they also sin, yet they wanted to kill her. See, the HYPOCRISY? But watch the rest of their conversation with Jesus:

John 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.

See the Pharisees are still here in chapter eight, talking to Jesus. Watch:

John 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.

He is talking with the Jews. They are the same.

Now for their origin:

John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

John 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Verse 33, they say, we be Abraham’s seed. Verse 37, Jesus acknowledges that this is TRUE. He also showed that they have that murdering spirit of the serpent or dragon, who killed all the righteous people. Ye seek to KILL ME. Yet they are Abraham’s seed. Verse 39, they claim Abraham as their father. Jesus denies this. They are his seed, (natural) but they are not his children (spiritual). He is not their father (spiritual). Verse 41, Jesus said, ye do the deeds of your father. Then they claim God as their father, realizing that Jesus has switched this conversation to the spiritual, and not the natural.

This leaves an opening for Jesus to show who their real ‘father�?(spiritual) is.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

He said they cannot hear his word, because God is not their Father. If so, they would have loved Him. But see, Jesus said the devil is your father. Is Abraham the devil? No. Yet Jesus had acknowledged that these Pharisees and Jews were the seed of Abraham. But spiritually, these people were the children of that old serpent, the devil.

So now, where did these people come from? If they were the seed of Abraham, then they had to have descended from ADAM. Here is the solid proof that Abraham descended from Adam: Luke 3:34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor, Lu 3:35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,

Luke 3:36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, Lu 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, Lu 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

So then, from the mouth of Jesus Christ, we see solid proof that these serpents, who continue till the end of time, when they will be cast into hell fire, were from ADAM. They did not descend through CAIN. See that line above here is not through CAIN. It is through SETH. And this is also proof that spiritually, Adam was the serpent. So the serpent, or dragon, is spiritual, which is why he is also Satan. This proves that the serpent is not a natural anything. It is certainly not a snake. It is the spiritual evil mind.

So this is solid proof that the serpents were descendants of ADAM, THROUGH SETH, NOT CAIN. Else you must call Jesus and the Word of God a LIE. If you cling to your false teaching of natural snakes, and of some serpent seed adultery producing Cain, they you are denying all of the above Scripture PROOF.

There is nothing else could be said. If you refuse this solid truth, you prefer darkness rather than light. Jesus said they LOVE Darkness, rather than LIGHT, because their deeds are EVIL.

So if you proceed with your darkened doctrine of literal snakes, or Cain being born from someone other than Adam, and the serpent proceeding through someone other than Seth, and Abraham, then you prove that your deeds are EVIL. You prove that you LOVE darkness, (lies) rather than LIGHT, (truth).

I have proven this message with pure KJ Scripture. There is absolutely nothing anyone can ever say to the contrary, except to prove that you hate truth and love lies.

By: Jo Smith ** June 19, 2007



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2007 9:39 PM
I have this clear message posted on another thread, but wish to put it here with this one.
 
Tweety, did you ever read either of these?  If not,  why?  when you 'seem' to be so interested in this matter?  why avoid this truth?  Does false teaching, done by Dake, and others, mean so much to you that you refuse to even consider these Scriptures which so solidly and clearly prove this matter?
Do you REALLY want truth?
 
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Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Re 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Notice, here it says that the dragon wants to devour the woman’s child as soon as it was born. Then it shows that the dragon is the same as the serpent, and Satan.

Re 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Now that shows that the accuser of the brethren is this one which was cast down, which was the dragon in verse nine. So this shows that the serpent is also this accuser of the brethren.

Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

See here that the devil and satan is the old serpent and dragon, and this is the one who was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him. So this serpent has some angels. Also he is the accuser.

Re 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Re 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Verse 12 said that the devil is come down to you. So this devil is the same old serpent and Satan which was cast out into the earth. But verse 13 said that it was the dragon which was cast unto the earth. How many were cast out into the earth?

Re 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Re 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Re 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Re 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Now let me show you something here. Verse 14 said the woman is nourished from the face of the SERPENT. Now is this the very same serpent which was in the Garden of Eden? How many serpents are in the Word? If that serpent was a snake, how is it that he is here now bothering the woman? Look at verse 15. The serpent cast water out of his mouth as a flood after the woman. Is that a snake doing that? If so, why is it also called the devil, Satan, and the dragon. See verse 15 says that the SERPENT cast out this water after the woman.

But look at verse 16. It says here that the DRAGON cast this flood out of his mouth.

See, the serpent does this in verse 15, but the dragon does it in verse 16. Proof here that the serpent is also the dragon, which is Satan. So this chapter proves that the serpent is not a snake, but a dragon, and Satan and the devil. How could a literal snake live so long and be down here at the end, casting a flood of water out of his mouth?

Somebody explain this.

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2007 9:53 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 6/18/2007 2:28 PM
If our Holy Mother, Eve, (the Mother of all LIVING was a bad thing, as some evil folks like to claim)  then all is not well.  all is lost....because Jesus was the woman's seed.  see?
 
He did NOT come from a MAN,  do you understand?    He did not come from a MAN.  he came from a WOMAN.  made of a WOMAN.  BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD.
Proof?  you need proof?  I always PROVE  what I teach,  not with my words.....but with GOD'S WORD:
watch:
 
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Ga 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

See,  it IS important...if not,  God would not have made it clear right here,  that Jesus was made  OF  A  WOMAN,,,,,,thus,  he is the WOMAN'S SEED.   yet these evil, wicked, mad-men(whom we cannot love and love God)  are claiming  that Eve had the seed of a 'huminid or cave man, or animal creature........NOW DO YOU SEE?  SEE THE EVIL.

Her seed was JESUS CHRIST....YET THEY CLAIM  THAT HER  SEED CAME FROM THE WICKED ACT OF ADULTRY,  FROM A 'HUMINID CAVEMAN,  SNAKE, SERPENT, DEVIL.

  DO  YOU SEE?  CAN YOU SEE?  CAN YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE? 

 

They are calling JESUS CHRIST  the seed of the serpent,,,,,,,,because   he is HER SEED.   IF HER SEED CAME FROM THE WICKED ONE,,,,,,,,,THEN THEY ARE CALLING THE SON OF GOD,  THE WICKED ONE.

 

Now do you see the importance?  I know you have to. 

  I am telling you all,  this is not my words........GOD GAVE ME THIS RIGHT NOW.  I feel the power from on high  so strong on me right now.  It is awsome.

God said,  they are calling Jesus Christ the son of the devil.

because:

Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Ge 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


THERE:

That proves it.  God gave me this.  the promise of the seed to bruise the head of the serpent  was made to  EVE.  It was her seed.  It was a prophecy to EVE.  She is this woman.  Jesus Christ came from her seed.  not his.  not from Adam.  the serpent.  but from the woman,  EVE.

Go tell it on the mountains.  Go tell it everywhere.  God is giving this to me.  Take this flaming sword,  ladies.  daughters of God.  Take this flaming sword and kill the enemies of this kingdom of JESUS CHRIST, the seed of the woman.

All you daughters who will, reach out and take this flaming sword,  it is burning in its greatness and strength,  take it and it will devour all the enemies.  Do not be afraid.  reach out and take it into thy hands.  It will bruise the head of that evil serpent, Adam.

All those evil men who claim Eve had sex with a serpent, and not Adam,  and committed adultry, are evil workers of Satan, and will be devoured with this sword.  thus saith the Lord God.

Those of you who can believe.....God gave me this,  is giving me this right now......reach out and receive it.  Receive the sword of the Lord.  Men cannot stop you.  They cannot stop us now.  God has given us the sword of TRUTH.  All truth is this flaming sword.  It will burn away all the lies, the filthy doctrine of wicked men.

Stay with the Word of God and truth will prevail and do away with the darkness of this evil night.  Turn,  turn, ye at my reproof.  Turn away from the lies of men and believe the engrafted word of God, which will give you power from on high to burn out the stubble and set up the kingdom of Christ.

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I posted this on my site in answer to those who claim that Eve brought forth Cain from an adulterous affair.  It is lies of Satan.  But this also proves why Adam was set to rule over her.  It was not the decree of God, as something God wanted.  it was not God's chosen way of life.

If so,  it would have been that way to start with.  Adam was NEVER told to rule over Eve in the start of their life.  It was not so.

In fact, Eve was his spiritual help or leader.  that is what helpmeet means.

Sin took that blessed way of life away from BOTH OF THEM.  Read Romans one.  It tells of their fall and how and why it came to be.  It shows the end of their being in the wrong kind of life, lifted up as gods, with the man ruling over the woman.

It proves that this way of life is punishment to BOTH of them because of their sin and rebellion against God's chosen way of life.

All who claim that the woman is still in this bondage is upholding Adam's original sin and rebellion against having a FEMALE HELPMEET.

It could not be any plainer.  Only those in rebellion to God will cling to this evil way of life.

IN CHRIST THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.

Women, if you desire truth and freedom and eternal life,  flee back to the original way of life with God creating us all on equal grounds and LOVE.  There is no love in ruling over others, no matter how many men shout their rebellious lies, that it is love.

Jo Smith, a REDEEMED Daughter of God.

<NOBR>Ac 2:16</NOBR> But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
<NOBR>Ac 2:17</NOBR> And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
<NOBR>Ac 2:18</NOBR>

And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/3/2007 4:12 AM
 
Tweety, and any others who see this... I think the article listed in the link below will give you a much greater understanding about the Serpent in Scripture.  I have just finished reading this.  it is very good......the only thing missing is that the author did not see that the greatest and highest being under God, was God's SON. 
 
God's son would have higher honour and place of authority than mere angels.  "Unto which of the angels said He at Any TIME,  THOU ART MY SON,  this day have I begotten thee".
 
It was also true of the first son, Adam....first-man, Adam.  this was also God's SON.  Any kings son has more authority and honour than the other people of the kingdom,  agree?
 
And to overlook the proving word,  I have driven him out for his wickedness, is to miss this truth.  Sure, they were a higher order of beings then...sure they were the Cherubms.  But
Tweety, since you have already seen that Adam and Eve were glorified at first, it should be easy for you to see that this is totally speaking of them.
 
The man set to rule this world was certainly God's Son, not some angel.  He is certainly the one who would be distrubed at God raising up another son, who is prophecied to be the KING in place of that first son.
 
This is so certain that I honestly do not see or understand how anyone could miss it!
 
This is a very good article, except that he missed that this anointed Cherub was God's Son, and not some angel.
 
Let all the angels of God now worship my Son.  Heb. one.
See?  The Sons are above the angels.
 

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From: joie2Sent: 10/22/2007 9:22 PM
I almost forgot to send this one back up for Tweety.  Hope you study this and see its truth.

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