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| | From: Tweety134 (Original Message) | Sent: 11/11/2007 3:06 PM |
Freeborn, This is the statement that Dake made in his extensive study of John 4:24. I will have to study out what further he says on this subject.of the "Body of Christ". Tweety From another standpoint, we can believe that "one God," "one Lord," and "one Spirit" literally mean one in number in some cases, as is plainly stated in 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 4:3-6. These passages refer to single persons of the three persons in the Trinity. Just as we can speak of three men being one in unity and then single out each of these three men as one in number if we want to speak of them as individuals, so it is with God. There are three persons in the divine unity and three separate persons in the divine individuality. It is not proper to say "one person" in speaking of the whole Godhead any more than it would be proper to speak of the whole body of Christ as one person when we know it is made up of millions of individuals. It is proper to speak of "one person" if we refer to one single person of the three that constitute the Trinity, just as it is proper to speak of single persons making the body of Christ. All three are God and Lord, and each one could be called God or Lord.<o:p></o:p> |
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| | From: epe1129 | Sent: 11/12/2007 5:35 AM |
Just a thought. Why are you studing Dake? He is
just a man with his opinion. Why was it such na issue when other authors were
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EPE, Have you ever studied a Dake Bible? I think that if you studied from one, alot of people's arguments that I have seen on many of these boards would go away. But I have also learned that the truth can be right before your eyes-backed up with tons of scripture and people will still reject it. The whole study of God As A Spirit The study is under The Godhead. Me and Freeborn were talking about Jesus Christ being a many membered kingdom. When her and I first started discussing this-I truly did not know where she was coming from. I thought she was way out in left field just like you think she is. Freeborn may say things different than we do, but when you truly study some of the things that she says out-you will come to the same conclusion as she did. And I can truly say that she is my Spiritual Mother on a lot of questions that I have. She does not accept anything that any scholar has. What Dake is saying is that: If Jesus Christ is a many membered Kingdom, why can't God the Father be a many membered Kingdom? This is the same thing that Freeborn has been saying for awhile. If people would actually study the WORD OF GOD and not side with man, but with GOD, this world would be in a much better position than it is now. Have a Blessed Day. Tweety |
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First of all, let me say I do not believe anything about the trinity that Dake is talking about in the post that Tweety posted above and I also can say the same for Freeborn. Now let me clear up another thing, neither do we use a dake bible and we also do not go along with what he says. There is no trinity mentioned in the word of God. The only reason I posted "Only incomprehensible theories of man, .-Rev. Finis Dake was because that is what it is. It is only dakes therory and is not the word of God. The only one I know that follows dake's teaching on this board is Tweety. Freeborn and myself only uses the Word of God not what some man says. My ADVICE to anyone is to get rid of dake and his teaching |
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Epe, I try to help others find the truth. Tweety is sincerely seeking the truth. She does not turn a deaf ear to what is told to her. But of course, she is blinded by Dake. No harm meant to you, dear Tweety. You know that I love you and wish to help you. I asked Tweety to post this so I could see for myself what Dake really said. She has told me several times that Dake was saying the same thing I say. I knew in my heart this probably was not true. And as it turns out, it is certainly NOT what dake was saying. Tweety, you really should go back and slowly read every word of the above post, from Dake. He was NOT saying that God could be many members, as was the Body of Christ. He plainly said several times, right there, that God is a trinity, made up only three persons. Nothing of this sort is taught in Scripture. Dake certainly was not saying what I teach, not what the KJV teaches. The KJV does NOT teach a trinity. It does not teach three persons. I knew Dake taught the trinity, so that is why I asked you to post this here for me to read. And I do thank you for doing so. Epe, we will discuss anything which is confusing a member here. I set up a dake board for Tweety to post anything she finds in his teachings which she wishes to discuss, because she is deep into Dake, and I see that it is leading her astray from truth. I have told her to burn that bible, as I did my Scofield so many years ago. Of course, she will have to come to this for herself before she can do it and she may never do it. That is for her to decide. I just advise her and others as God has taught me. If you have something from some source which you wish discussed, be free to post it. I have never deleted too much from this site. Only when it gets to slandering the KJV and the Name of Jesus too much do I delete things. There are some doctrines so damnaging to saints that I cannot allow here. But these things Dake said are not in that catagory. I fully agree with Axs on this matter. Praise the Lord for another saint of God who sees the real truth. Tweety, since Dake did see that Christ's body is made up of inumerable members, he should have taken it on that Christ is the IMAGE of God. But he was blinded by the false trinity teaching. Love to you all, Jo |
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Freeborn, Look at what you wrote: Tweety, since Dake did see that Christ's body is made up of inumerable members, he should have taken it on that Christ is the IMAGE of God. But he was blinded by the false trinity teaching. I am quite sure that Dake understands that Jesus Christ is the image of God. The question that he posed is: If Jesus Christ is made up of inumerable members, why can't GOD be made of of inumerable members? Did you not say that God is not ONE? Well Dake is saying that God is not ONE. Remember when you said that ONE DON"T MEAN ONE IN NUMBER? And the three persons, FATHER, SON HOLY GHOST are not taught in scripture? Well my quest for the day is the subject of imunerable members. I don't think I will find what I am looking for. But you never know what I will come across. Great to see you back Freeborn. Tweety |
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Dear Tweety. You are surely 'reading' something into Dake's words here which are NOT written in his words. No where in the above post did Dake say this: If Jesus Christ is made up of inumerable members, why can't GOD be made of of inumerable members? That statement is not in the post you posted here. You are trying to see something in Dake's words which are not there. Now I have never said that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are not taught in Scripture. I do say that they are not taught as a trinity. See, FATHER is an entire kingdom. SON is a total different, but entire kingdom. Holy Ghost is their spirit at work in this world. But none of them are called one person in the three-person Godhead. That is not written anywhere in Scripture. No, Dake did not realize that in the same way that the Body of Christ is made up of innumerable members, that God could be the same way. Where do you see that in the above post? He made it very cleary that he saw God as three separate but distinct different PERSONS....3 and 3 only! It is the same old Catholic lie that almost the entire church world believes. P.S. that was my boss calling me while we talked. She wants me to go back to work tonight. |
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| | From: epe1129 | Sent: 11/13/2007 2:44 AM |
Yes,Tweety I have studied the Dake bible, actually
I have one in front of me right now. I have found quite a few doctrines that he
teaches match with what i believe. Many however do not. It sounded by the
respons you got from Freeborn that you were welcome to study and believe this
man. I apologize for making it sound as if I was trying to attack you all, I was
not and am not. It just struck a bad nerve. Sorry all.
I have not studied Dake for a long
time. I got frustrated with all the hogwash, and put this bible aside. I
purchased one with NO footnotes, and began again to footnote my own. I
still have my Dake, but only for the notes I put into it over the past 15 years.
I haven't transferred them all yet.
Axs2-381, I agree with you that no such
doctrine of a Trinity is found in Scripture, and I do not trust any man or woman
teching the Holy Scriptures, unless it matches from Genesis to Revelation. I too
threw out Dake, except where I saw that his docrine matched what I believe
Scripture teaches. I would do the same with anyone else.
If it doesn't jive with Scripture,
chuck it.
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Epe, that is certainly the truth. If it does not say just exactly what Scripture says, someone has changed God's word. I say Tweety can study that bible if she chooses, but I do not agree with it. It is her decision. I do not have the right to tell her she cannot do this. But I do tell her all the time that he did not have the truth. He did not have the right revelation because he was not on the right foundation. Until one is on the right foundation, everything they believe will be wrong. I have never studied his works. Only know what Tweety posts here for me to see. That is why I asked her to post his words here about this. she was telling me that she thought Dake was saying the same thing God showed me....that God is a kingdom of many members. But Dake had no clue as to that. Trinity blinded him. JO |
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| | | Sent: 11/15/2007 10:34 AM |
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Dear Asif, I hope you can find some material and study this devil worship holiday, called Christmas. Matter of fact, we have a lot of truth about this evil already posted here on the Holiday board. You can take advantage of this and study it right here. It is certainly NOT of God and not of Jesus. It is most certainly not any birthday of Jesus. God even forbids this day to be blessed or kept. We teach against all these pagan, idol holidays and most certainly will not be a part of helping lead children astray into this devil worship. your love may be genuine, but your knowledge is sorely lacking. So study the Word of God, and find where God told you to do such things. If he did not, then you are COMMANDED by God, NOT TO DO THEM. Jo |
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| | | Sent: 11/16/2007 10:18 AM |
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MAY my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. |
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