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| | From:  Isaiah· | Sent: 2/18/2003 9:14 AM |
I surely hope and pray that he also has given you the book of Acts because that is where the plan of salavation is located. - 2:1
- And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
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- And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
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- And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
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- And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Have you enjoyed this great experience that God has gave for us all. - 2:17
- And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Once again have you been baptized in the wonderful name of Jesus and received the Holy Ghost the same way the apostles did with the evidence of speaking in another tongue as the spirit gives the utterance. Just wondering if you have also read this book and obeyed ? If not let me recommend it to you. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. May the Lord Bless | |
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 Dear Isaiah:  - To tell you the truth; I never read the whole Bible.
- I never read the New Testament. Everything I know of God is from what He has told me and He taught me everything I know*
- And they are mostly from The Old Testament and Only thing God revealed to me from N.T is The Book of Revelation which was the first and then the Book of Isaiah which was the second and then to Genisis, Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Malachi and that is about it. Here a little and there a little
- He showed me and told me and the reason why is because it is good to read the whole bible for all men of good will but you cannot apply to the scripture of your choice and some do not apply in this appointed time concerning God's plans. Revelation because it is TIME and Isaiah because God proclaimed to Isaiah what he will do in these days.
- "LIKE DAYS OF NOAH TO ME." MYGOD SAYS..And Isaiah was a great Prophet as Elaijah was..That is why my Father changed my name to Elaijah before it was Moses.
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- *Now about Acts I never read but these scripture sounds farmilar like
- I heard it from my Father in Book of Joel maybe?
- 2:17
- And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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- I will give you so that you will have better understanding for I percieve that you are someone who is stern about God's Word and go strictly by the Books so I give you by Scriptures you want, Scriptures I give*
THE BOOK OF
ISAIAH
"I am the Lord, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King."
Thus says the Lord, who makes a way in the sea, a path in the mighty waters,
who brings forth chariot and horse, army and warrior; they lie down,
they cannot rise, they are extinguished, quenched like a wick:
"Remember not the former things, nor consider the things of old.
Behold, I am doing a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it?
I will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert.
The wild beasts will honor me, the jackals and the ostriches;
for I give water in the wilderness, rivers in the desert.
to give drink to my chosen people,
the people whom I formed for myself that they might
declare my praise.
<Isaiah43:15-21> "Whom will he teach knowledge, and to whom will he explain the message?
Those who are weaned from the milk, those taken from the breast?
For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
hear a little, there a little."
Nay, but by men of strange lips and with an alien tongue the Lord will speak
to this people, to whom he has said,
"This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose";
yet they would not hear.
Therefore the word of the Lord will be to them
precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little;
that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. <Isaiah28:9-13> THIS IS THE MESSAGE MYFATHER TOLD ME TO GIVE TO YOU ISAIAH *BECAUSE I SAW YOUR PRAISE POST* OpenScroll-The New Heaven and The New Earth:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth.
The first heaven and the first earth disappeared, and the sea vanished.
And I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared and ready, like a bride dressed to meet her husband.
I heard a loud voice speaking from the throne:
"Now God's home is with mankind!
He will live with them, and they shall be his people.
God himself will be with them, and he will be their God.
He will wipe away all tears from their eyes.
There will be no more death, no more grief or crying or pain.
The old things have diapered.
Then the one who sits on the throne said, "Now I make all thongs new!"
He also said this to me, "Write this because these words are true and can be trusted." And he said, "It is done!"
"I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
"To any one who is thirsty I will give the right to drink from the spring of the water of life without paying for it.
Whoever wins the victory will receive this from me: I will be his God, and he will be my son.
But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practice magic, those who worship idols, and all liars~the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulfur which is the second death."
<Revelation21:1-8>
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I have underlined the important part of this message for you and it is really good to know that there is someone like you who are truly faithful to God and Serve Him sincerely and Love Him as I do*..I have been very weary of people who has said some hurtful things to me which was evil and they seemed to be all Christians- For have you heard of Family Radio Ministry? There I have given my 7 years of hard work I did for God out of love and it went to the dogs my Father says they eats up the mountain and did not give the pledge, and His Son Jesus said, "They have committed the great Sin that cannot be forgiven." Because of the evils they have said of me, because I told them how much scared and terrified I was after being sacrificed unto the Devil who was after me and wanted me bad* To destroy me and I would not be alive if it wasn't for God but I didn't know God then or God had me meet the Satan before Him for reason.
My own Father gave me to Dragon and didn't even tell me! O because He knew, I would have never came here to this city if He told me what was to happen and my Father knows how much I love to wonder and find things but I didn't mean to find scary things! All I wanted to know was 'What is a power?" that everybody was talking about and went to look and lo, I find and discovered God and Satan. 1995 to 1996 for whole year as in 12 month, I was under the full forces and powers of Satan which I didn't even know..what it was..I didn't know until it lead me all the way to death. He was that clever for he first attracted me, then lead me to a way that was not good nor right and at end it leads to death! And I remembered his power, It was very strong and forcefull..I had no control. But it was the attraction that Lucifer attracted me with then he decieved me and got to where it was very painful and very sad I wrote many times to Family Radio about my testimony, because I could not sleep at night and often have nightmares..Still after over 7 years, it has irraparably injured me where I became permanently disabled and mentally tramatized, and there was Jerry at Nightwatch and in the morning I had to listen to Tom who were very evil devil on me with their voices I know about the e-mails and letters I sent to them they dread and hated me as their most hateful foe and I heard evil and hurtful things to me: And I also found out who was behind this and for what to... Tom and Jerry, Does that sound familliar?  And I gave Family Radio a New Name* TROLL NUMBER ONE* This is why Jesus said, be angry and sin not but it is very hard not to when you are angry so angry enough to kill for they kill out of anger and hate* He also said to love your enemies and forgive* This He said so that you may not build anger and hate..and kill! and become evil which is hurting others and evil is not a human. It is spirit that comes from sources and God is in control of all. Both evil and good comes from him. Do not be angry and hate* For the vengeance belongs to God and He will repay* He says he will repay to their own bosom? Do you know what that means? I heard men asking Bible Teacher Mr. Camping saying, isn't this word kind of famanant ? About God? There is nothing that is famenant about God* HE IS MASCULANT* AND VERY VERY HARD LIKE A ROD OF IRON. HE DO NOT BEND* HE FIXES AND CORRECTS TO PERFECT AND STRAIGHT THE WAY HE WANTS AND DOES WHATEVER HE PLEASES AND NO MAN COULD STOP HIM* and what he meant by to thier own bosom means chest where your heart is..Have you heard of Heart Attack? One way to death and there are many more.
I will stop here for I have problem sometimes talking too much which is the reason
for all these troubles! I got into*
Thanks for listening and Best Wishes
To you and to the members of Build True Foundation*
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 2/19/2003 2:30 AM |
I wish to tell you, Moses&Elijah, that ALL of the word of God is His Word. It is all from the same mind and the same Spirit. It is all for us today. I have studied the whole Book for many, many years. Back and forth; back and forth. comparing Scripture with Scripture until it all comes together into ONE Book. Not many different books. It is all about the same thing. Every one of the 66 Books are about the same thing. You can learn truth and it be the same from any and all of those Books. I study, love and teach from the whole Book. For there are no contradictions anywhere in the Whole book. God does not lie. He is not mixed up any where. But I can tell you and everyone, God put away the Old Covenant. He hated it. He will only give salvation and light throught the New Testament. And I do not mean the Scriptures written from Matt. - Rev. The New Testament is written from Gen. - Rev. But it is very different from the Old T. which is also written from Gen. - Rev. Jesus said Now Light is come; now salvation is come; now the prince of this world is judged; now he is cast down; now men choose darkness rather than light for their deeds are evil. When did he mean? He meant when He himself came and taught God's Word. That was when Light came into this earth; not before. So it is the Grace Covenant, through the blood of Jesus, God's Son which is the N.T. Not the Books of the N.T. Grace was also available to a few in the Old T. days. Moses himself was in Grace. But the witnesses of God can only be from the N.T. They cannot witness of the power and life of God under the Old Covenant. Moses and Elijah both were from the Old Covenant; so they cannot be God's Witnesses. These must come from the N.T. It is two powerful churches. It is the two annointed ones-- anointed with power from on high by the Baptism of the holy Ghost and the Baptism of Fire, yet to be manifested. You need to try to get you mind on the ones who are left here still with you. You will fare better that way. If God has taken him home, then it is for those of us who are still here to do the work of God. Joie, I love your drawings and sweet words. |
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O JOIE JOIE,  But the witnesses of God can only be from the N.T. They cannot witness of the power and life of God under the Old Covenant. Moses and Elijah both were from the Old Covenant; so they cannot be God's Witnesses. These must come from the N.T. It is two powerful churches. It is the two annointed ones-- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What if I said to you, you are dead wrong* And you did not recieve my message correctly. The witnesses of God can only be from the N.T* how wrong is your understanding concerning the word of God. You are right God's word is all true and he do not lie. But who can fully understand the Word of God and his mind and everybody loves to claim they have the truth but they do not* NONE* For everybody has their own interpretion about what they read from the scriptures that is from the Bible. I am not going to convence you into believing me for your mind is set on your own believes of God's word and no one has it correctly* None* You will never know God and undestand his word which is precepts upon precepts riddles and only if you have wisdom of God then you will know and understrand correctly. Now, I never said Moses and Elaijah which is the name I use is the Two witnesses. I am definantly no the man Moses nor the man Elaijah from Old Testament. But representation. I will make this short and I am getting tired. The names and the spirits of his holy ones are with God forever! About God's two annointed: One is Christ Jesus the first to be raised from death the faithful witness. The other is his church and there is only ONE* CHURCH* that is the Bride of Christ the woman who is in Revelation 12 for she represents the wisdom of God in the Holy Bible such as Proverbs. And you do not have the other books to wisdom for they are missing in KJV. Do you know how precious God speaks of this wisdom? For she is his Wife* The Lamb's wife who is the Church his Body and His Bride. There is only one* I heard Mr. Camping claims to be the Bride of Christ or he says, We are the Bride of Christ. Well, they may be only under one condition. They need a wedding garments. The men will look real good with pink wedding gown with few yellow ribbons tied around their heads looks like beautiful brides we could make of Mr. Campings' Bride of Christ...Sorry. I am now getting sarchastic. Salvation cannot come from Old Testament Covenant? Are you saying that the Word of God is false in this way? Just read Isaiah and Revelation. That is all you need to know* For your love for Salvation that is to be saved meaning everlasting life in Christ in the Kingdom of New Jerusalem the Mount Zion also called, Ho Ariel, Ariel the city that David encamped. The voice of a ghost* Remember just Read Isaiah and Revelation. Isaiah 52, 54, 60 and Read Revelation 3:7-12 And 16 and 19 and 21 and last 22. What more do you need to know where it explains all for everyone's hope for God's promise which has not yet been fullfilled* But soon your own eyes shall see the Salvation of God and the glory of his majestic. He is coming soon I tell you. Key of David written as key that belonged to David opens a door and who has this key? and who was it given to? The name of my God and the name of the city of myGod the new Jerusalem which will come down out of heaven from my God. I will also write on him my new name that is Jesus. His new name: Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almgity who is, who was and who is to come. Wait for God* You will be just fine and I am glad that we have met in this web and I think very good of you* Only need to heed and think about it for a moment for I want you to come and live in the New Jerusalem where there is no curse and there will be no night there. From your friend littleFlock but I told you my real name is Sun and my last name is Jew but they have mispelled it when I was shipped or flew on a eagls wings to this strange nation America and I was only 10. They spelled it as Choo as Choo Choo train. Do you know how many kids laughed at me at school? They made a laughing stock out of my name and just about me always. But that is okay now for where else besides do you have the greatest opportunity to become a laughingstock besides in America? Is my focus* Let the New Jerusalem come down to our nation which is my victory prize just as the Lord Jesus said to Philadelphia and to littleflock for it is my Father's pleasure to give me the Kingdom. You are very welcome all of you in Build True Foundation. I am happy to be a member of Build On True Foundation. Thank you Joie and Isaiah you are a man of many blessings and beloved by the Lord* |
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so this is off the point here but it seems to me that if nobody agrees with you their posts are deleted |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 9/19/2004 7:09 PM |
Jober, you sure are off track. Sounds like you wish to stir up striff and evil here. So what? We have not control over any member here deleting their own messages. Now do we? I looked through this ENTIRE thread and guess what? Not one single message here was deleted by anyone EXCEPT the AUTHOR of the message. Now is the AUTHOR not agreeing with himself? and is he mad at himself and deleted his OWN MESSAGES? Is that our fault? Is not any member here given the RIGHT by MSN to delete their own messages? Even you. So now, go find one message here which was DELETED by any of the managers, which is the ONLY other person with the power to delete messages. Members CANNOT delete other member's messages. But the beauty of it is, every deletion here carries this: | (Original Message) | Sent: 2/16/2003 10:26 AM | | This message has been deleted by the author.
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I see it now, You call it off base but I wanted to ask questions before I just gave up completely,
Now that I have come some what of an understanding of what you are talking about, I regret my hastiness in my responses.
Forgive me for stirring up evil is not my intent at all
Jodi
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Date: 09/19/04 13:09:22
Subject: Re: THE VISION OF BABYLON THE GREAT CH17-18
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Jober, you sure are off track. Sounds like you wish to stir up striff and evil here. So what? We have not control over any member here deleting their own messages. Now do we?
I looked through this ENTIRE thread and guess what? Not one single message here was deleted by anyone EXCEPT the AUTHOR of the message.
Now is the AUTHOR not agreeing with himself? and is he mad at himself and deleted his OWN MESSAGES?
Is that our fault? Is not any member here given the RIGHT by MSN to delete their own messages? Even you.
So now, go find one message here which was DELETED by any of the managers, which is the ONLY other person with the power to delete messages.
Members CANNOT delete other member's messages. But the beauty of it is, every deletion here carries this:
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 9/19/2004 8:03 PM |
Jober, if that was not your intention, then I appologize to you. You see, in the three and half years I have run this group, I have had soooooooo many come in here with an attitude of only wanting to stir up striff and evil against us that it has now become a place of defensive to me. I am now very quick to catch them and try and put a stop to it before it gets into a terrible mess as has happened in the past because I bore so long with some to whom I should have just sent away for good. But I did not want to be a manager who deleted messages and banned people. But I should have banned a few long before they did so much damage here. But I see much good in your other messages, so I hope you will excuse my mistake and stay with us and bring out anything else God has shown you or ask any questions you wish. I have enjoyed all of your messages so far. So I think you would be a good asset to Bottf. Friendship to you Jo |
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I do wish to sat here a while and Learn a bit, I have been traveling from site to site trying to explain that scripture of 1st Timothy chapter two for a while as you can guess many many Christians will not receive That Paul was speaking to a Church.
They choose instead to use the scripture to attach a chain around the ankles of The Daughters Of The Most High God!!!
I will not pretend to know all
and I would like to explain How I came upon this Knowledge, for I can not claim it for my own
You see I have felt The calling for about Two years now, this is the number of years I have been Reborn.
And I was given a message for the church
Which is another story all in its own.
You see I was not raised up under any doctrine, or Church
I was raised up By The spirit of God
I do not think I am special, I cried out to him in my time of Great need with a willing heart
and He answered
He has been with me ever since
I have poured over hours and days and years of studies
and I felt so free until I was introduced to the scripture at hand,( by a man who wished to silence me I am sure) this lead me straight to a stumbling block, I had so much Strife over that one scripture.
But My God did not allow me to stumble.
I couldn't understand why I felt the Spirit of God leading me in one direction, when The Bible its self if not quickened to the spirit man, Looks as if and is Taught as if a woman in the natural has no place in Gods ministry
I could not settle for this Because I know what the Lord has called me to do, so I traveled over this around it, I looked for answers everywhere even In the apocalyptic scriptures but it was like running into a dead wall.
For I could not find God
When I could not find the answer on my own I cried out to God against Paul, (yes it was brazen I know) But I am being truthful. I even went as far as to ask him if Paul was the anti Christ.
It was then that I was lead to this verse, and my eyes where opened to what It actually was saying
You have no idea, how my heart soared when I was Given an understanding of this verse
And It has indeed opened up a whole road to discovery on my Part on the Church
so as you can see I am not wise ( I have a God who is willing to Love me and Guide me in all truth)
I am still a very teachable Spirit, And Pillar is write I have to test the spirits here and everywhere that I go, for The truth and being reared up in the truth
Is more important to me than Breathing.
God Bless You,
Jodi
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Hello jober212000 and welcome to Build On The True Foundation. I am also a manager here and I just saw your message and I would like to say to you about 1 Timothy 2:11-12 if that is what you are talking about and I persume that you are a woman, if this is incorrect please straighten me out if these are not the ones that you are referring to. Since I have not read any more ot the threads. | 1 Timothy 2 | - 2:11
- Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
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- But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
But if this is what you are referring to and I will bring forth a message that Joie did and I also did a lots of research on called "Women In Christ". If you are referring to these scriptures please let me know and I will see if I can find the message Women In Christ for you and let you study it out. Again Welcome to Build On The True Foundation | |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 9/20/2004 1:21 AM |
Oh Jober! How my heart is touched with your testimony! I am so glad to meet you. You cannot know at this point how much alike we have been led and are. That 'misunderstanding' of the verse in Tim and also in 1Cor. has led many a true God-called woman to stumble and fall by the way side. What a horrible shame and crime against Christ and His true Church. I can tell you, they have poluted the 'church' so much I have just about come to DISPISE that very word. I feel sure God has led you right to us. I am a 65 year old woman. I have tried to live for God all my life. I was raised in a Baptist church, constantly speaking AGAINST women ministers. So naturally, I accepted it that they knew what they were saying. So I grew up believing women had no place [except of course to help 'support' their programs. (sneer(]. But I loved God's Word and hungered to really learn it and hear the depths taught. But I could find no one who 'knew' it. At the age of 25, God spoke directly to me and told me to leave that church and never go back. I obeyed and ended up in a Pentecostal church. There I received a glorious Baptism of the Holy Ghost on May 31, 1964. I had a glorious time in the Spirit. I still hungered to hear the Word. I studied diligently all these years, but with 'their' blindfolders' on my mind. But truth was coming in a bit at a time. Each time I found something 'new' in the word and told it, MEN would slap me down with their club, A WOMEN CAN'T TEACH. I can't tell you the endless pain and agony this caused me. I have cried and cried my heart out seeking the truth from God; KNOWING He was at work in my life; KNOWING he himself was now teaching me; KNOWING he placed a burning desire in me to teach this truth to others........yet believing my own self that I was forbidden by the very God who was telling me to do it.....He was saying you can't! Oh what a horrible trick Satan has played on God's daughters. To make this short, the last time I went on my face before God and cried and called on Him to show me the real truth, ---WHY GOD? WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME TO MAKE TAPES; GET THEM INTO THE HANDS OF AS MANY CHURCHES AND PEOPLE AS I CAN; -- WRITE LETTERS OUT TO PROMENIENT TEACHERS; AND NOW TO TEACH ON THE INTERNET.........WHY? IF YOUR WORD SAYS I CANNOT DO THIS? WHY? GOD IF YOU WANT ME TO BE QUIET, I WILL BE QUIET. BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO TEACH, YOU HAVE GOT TO EXPLAIN THESE SCRIPTURES ON THIS MATTER TO ME. SHOW ME THE TRUTH! I can tell you, right then and there God SPOKE to me and said, EACH TIME THIS IS SAID, PAUL TIED IT RIGHT BACK TO LAW. I had the answer right there. LAW. What can forbid God's daughter's to tell the gospel, as Jesus told Mary to do? Nothing but LAW. In grace, there is neither male nor female. You are 100% right. It is nothing but a whore -against-God CHURCH which God has forbidden to teach his word. Glory to God for another God-sent DAUGHTER. Glad to have you on board. Be very careful on ONE THING.......PROVE EVERY WORD BY WRITTEN SCRIPTURE. IF IT DOES NOT SAY IT, IT IS A LIE. Jo |
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Yes Dear Brother I am a woman, LOL.
and I would love to hear from you in regards to whatever you wish to send to me on the subject.
Thank You for your warm welcome and concern
God Bless You,
Jodi
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Jodi, I sent you the message in email, hope you get it. I am also known as Isaiah around here. My self and joie fought each other on this for a long time until God opened both of our understanding on this subject about the woman. Don't let anyone deny you your God given rights, preach what God has given to you. |
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