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| | | From: joie (Original Message) | Sent: 6/2/2002 5:26 AM |
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| | | Back in the early 70’s, I was in with a small group of people who had home prayer meetings. We had all left the church system at this time. God had led each of us out of that. We began praying together. At first, we were kind of weak in this matter; but after a while of consistent prayer, we came to have the great power of God each and every time we met together. We did not try to have a ‘church�?type meeting; but rather we just sat facing each other. We prayed for Jesus to lead us each time. We met almost every day. I fully believe this is how God intends for us to worship. The Holy Ghost always led us what to do. We each waited for His leadership. It was more wonderful than I could ever describe. One night we were at a friends home. At first we were all kind of bound down and could not pray. We were all in the same bondage. Then God moved on me and I knew what to do. I stood up [we had all been kneeling] and said out loud, Satan, I rebuke; I refuse to be bound by you. when I said this, The Spirit of the Lord moved on each of us and we began to break forth in great praise and worship. We really had the victory then. After that we always knew how to have victorious services.
Then at another prayer meeting at this same home, we were all kneeling and praying. Soon after the prayer began, I began to see a vision. In the vision I was kneeling at the foot of the cross. Jesus was hanging on it. I was kneeling with several other women. We were all crying.
I felt this great love coming from him to me. I felt compelled to look up. As I looked up, Jesus was looking straight out. But when I was looking up at him, he looked down at me. He had the most beautiful eyes, so full of the sweetest love I have ever seen. They were so tender looking; so full of love. It was just so awesome to feel, that I just looked back down. But then, I looked up again; again he was looking straight out. But as I looked up, he again looked down at me with that same tender look of compassion and love. This happened several more times. It was thundering and lightening and misty dark all around us. He had black hair. This was an open vision; it lasted quite a long while; not just a momentary thing. I looked at this vision for a good five minutes or so. After the vision lifted, I came back to my present surroundings and told the others of the vision I had experienced. Every one of them told of a vision they had each had. Each one of us had experienced a different vision of Jesus. Each vision was similar; but different. It was quite amazing. The glory and joy of this wonderful Spiritual visit is beyond description.
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 4/9/2003 6:31 PM |
I am sending this beautiful 'VISION' of Jesus on the cross back to the front page so Little flock can read it. Yes, dear one, I was there. Yes I saw him hanging there looking down at ME with unspeakable LOVE in his eyes. That was one of the most precious moments of my whole life. It was VERY REAL. Yes I KNOW HIM AND HE KNOWS ME AND COMMUNES WITH ME DAILY. Love to you. Jo |
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Vayikra {26:1} You shall make you no idols, neither shall you rear you up an engraved image, or a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down to it: for I am HaSHEM your G-D. {26:2} You shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am HaSHEM.
Israel during Biblical times took this mitzvah (commandment) very seriously. Throughout the Roman occupation of ha eretz (the land), although Roman coinage was the currency of the day, devout Jews were reluctant to use it and it was definitely not used in the Beit HaMikdash (Temple). The reason for this was that all Roman coins bore the image of the emperor and since using the money ostensibly could have constituted paying homage or bowing down to an image of the emperor, it was barred from use in the Beit HaMikdash. This fact is what lead to the incident where Yeshua turned over the tables of the moneychangers.
Mark {11.15} And they come to Yerushalyim (Jerusalem): and Yeshua went into the Beit HaMikdash, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the Beit HaMikdash, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; {11.16} And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the Beit HaMikdash. {11.17} Then He taught, saying to them, "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it a 'den of thieves.'"
Pesach (Passover) was one of the three moedim (appointed times) when all male Jewish men had to appear at the Beit HaMikdash before the L-rd. It was also the time for the paying and collecting of the half shekel Beith HaMikdash tax (Shemot [Exodus] 30.12-13). Because most Jews outside of Yerushalyim used Roman coinage, it was therefore necessary for them to convert their money into the coinage minted by the Sanhedrin so that it may be used to pay their tax.
The moneychangers as well as the people selling livestock for korban (literally "draw near" but translated as "sacrifice") served a legitimate purpose. Coinage other than that of the Beit HaMikdash had to be changed for the reason stated above. In addition, because of the great distances some men had to travel in order to get to Yerushalyim it was impractical for them to bring their own korbanot (plural of korban). There was also the high probability if they did bring their own korbanot that the animals would in some way be injured on the way and rejected as a korban by the kohenim (priests). So these people did serve a legitimate purpose! It was the location the merchants chose to do their business as well as their business ethics, which Yeshua objected to.
The moneychangers and animal merchants set up shop in the Court of the Gentiles. The Saducees, whose jurisdiction was the Beit HaMikdash, sanctioned this practice, mainly because they received financial benefit from it. The Court of the Gentiles was the location in the Beit HaMikdash compound, where non-Jewish (pagan) travellers could come and pray. It is for this reason that while Yeshua was throwing the moneychangers out of the area He was also exclaiming; "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations'?....
Their business practices were also less than honourable. They were taking advantage of the fact that theirs was the only game in town. The moneychangers charged excessive fees or exchange rates, and the animal vendors, who were taking advantage of the larger than normal demand, practiced price gouging. It was so much so that Yeshua declared; "....But you have made it a 'den of thieves."
We are not as conscious of images as bnei Yisrael (children of Israel) were during the times of Yeshua. No one knows what Yeshua actually looked like. There are no drawings or pictures of Him that we might know His face. The authenticity of the shroud is questionable and even then the images is not very recognizable. Yet many people do not think it any problem to buy a picture, statue or figurine depicting some artists conception of who knows who and declare it to be Yeshua. This practice I must warn is not like having a picture of your uncle Harry or aunt Tilly hanging on the wall. This picture represents or is presumed to be of G-d when in actuality it is not; it is an idolatrous image.
I would like to point out another danger, which may arise from this practice. Truly Satan cannot appear to anyone in the true image of Yeshua, but he certainly can appear to you in the image you or someone else has created of Yeshua. Many people I am sure have been deceived by Satan, when he appeared to them, thinking they were seeing or speaking to Yeshua, all because of an image they have hanging on their wall or standing on a table top.
2 Corinthians {11.14} And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 5/14/2003 4:37 AM |
Jonbob, I certainly agree with you about the images and 'pictures' people call Jesus. I do not have any in my home. God showed me very many years ago to get rid of all such things. I do NOT believe in having anything called a picture of Jesus or God. But I can tell you that if and when God decides to give one of his children a vision of himself, he most certainly can and does do that. My vision was MOST CERTAINLY NOT FROM OR OF SATAN. IT WAS FROM GOD. Now you think whatever you wish. I KNOW. I was there. I know the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD; AND THIS WAS HOLY. I did not say what he looked like! I did not say he looked like those pictures, see? You assume that is why I thought it was him. Not so! I know the spirit. Now as to why Jesus cast over the tables and cast them out of the temple is because buying and selling the things of worship and of God is the MARK OF THE BEAST. Mercandising period is of the beast; it has no place in the things of God. All who take money for doing the work of God, all who engage in any kind of merchandising in the name of religion are partaking of the mark of the Beast. Paid preachers are of the beast; they are heirlings. People came up with this silly thing of a litteral number on their heads or a computer chip in them as a means of throwing off the real truth. That has not one thing to do with it. Jesus told them, old Jerusalem, YOUR HOUSE IS LEFT UNTO YOU DESOLATE. THEY ARE THE DESOLATE ONES. THEY ARE THE WHORE. THEY ARE THE BABYLON. Yet most 'christians' still honour them above the true Christians. Why? Because they have that babylon spirit. Ole Jerusalem. Ole jewish things; old commandments; etc. that is the mark of the beast. staying with the law, anything of the old covenant is the mark of the beast. that dear one is why Jesus cast them and their money out. Make NOT MY FATHER'S HOUSE, A HOUSE OF MERCHANDISE. ALL WHO DO SO HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST. OLD JERUSALEM. |
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ALL WHO DO SO HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST. OLD JERUSALEM. |
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Skyangel, You are not the judge of spiritual things. You also do not know scripture. And if this is why you have joined here, I suggest you leave right now. The scripture you picked up on the wool and WHITE hair, is AFTER the resurrection into glory. It is NOT WHAT JESUS LOOKED LIKE IN HIS EARTLY LIFE, NOR WHILE HANGING ON THE CROSS. So this proves you do not have the spirit of God leading you to judge his workings with his true children. The only reason I am even leaving your false and ugly words here is to show the others how deceived YOU ARE IN THINKING YOU CAN JUDGE VISIONS OF GOD, BY USING THE WORD OF GOD FALSLY. YOU ARE THE LIAR, NOT ME. AND IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS SITE AND PICK OUT THING WITH WHICH TO TRY TO TEAR ME DOWN, YOU ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK. THOUSANDS BEFORE YOU HAVE TIRED THIS AND THEY FAIL ALSO. NOW YOU PROVE WITH SCRIPTURE WHAT COLOR OF HAIR JESUS HAD WHILE ON EARTH. ELSE ADMIT THAT YOU LIED ONLY DESIREING TO TEAR MY TESTIMONY DOWN AND THUS THROW DOUBT ONTO THE GLORIOUS TRUTH WHICH GOD GIVES ME. THE TRUTH IS WHAT YOU REALLY HATE. | I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies. | | Thou art beautiful, O my love, as Tirzah, comely as Jerusalem, terrible as an army with banners. | | Turn away thine eyes from me, for they have overcome me: thy hair is as a flock of goats that appear from Gilead. |
SO, SHOW ME THE TRUE COLOR OF HIS HAIR, WHILE ON EARTH!!! yOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS UNDER DELUSIONS AND TEACHING MANY FALSE THINGS! |
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Skyangel, said my vision of Jesus was of satan and not of God, for, she said, Jesus' hair was NOT black on earth. Now I know she is too carnal to understand that all scripture is about Jesus, only using other's to show this, in the OT. But here is the scripture I was thinking of before, and it PROVES that Jesus DID HAVE BLACK HAIR ON EARTH. although I have already banned her, she probably will look back here anyway to see what is being said. I hope so. she needs to see this error of hers: | My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. | | His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven |
I looked for 'hair' before. but I knew this scripture was here. God reminded me as I went about my work, that it is the word, 'locks'. here. here it is. I knew there was a scripture proving his hair was BLACK. Now others may claim this is not about Jesus is they wish, but I know that it is. so see, what an evil thing skyangel is. she went to in the eternal world, that his hair was white . no, Jesus did NOT HAVE WHITE HAIR ON EARTH. HE DIED AT AGE 33. HE WAS BLACK HEADED! So my vision was true! |
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I do not ban members who teach different from me. If they teach what they believe, WITHOUT calling everything I teach a lie and of the devil. Chriss is a perfect example of this. I do not believe one word the man says, yet he only teaches it as he sees it, and does not try to call me a devil and tear down everything I say. There is a big difference. Chriss is not teaching any truth, but he and I know this, and we do not call each other ugly names or such. He does not dig through this site and try to bring up everything I have said and show it to be a lie. As long as he lets it be known that he is just teaching his own beliefs, and not trying to tear down this site, then that is fine. that is what debate is all about. but people such as skyangel and beffers, only come in here to try and tear down the truth we teach, and to lead others away from here. I am not going to permit this from anyone, even if we get down to three members. besides that I periodically delete members who are inactive for a long, long time. In fact I am going to do some today. there are dozens of new sites come up lately, seemingly all by the same manager or some of them are. they have only 29 to 33 members, and took over the first page of the MSN sites. That is simply not fair to other boards who have 100 to 200 members and are very active. We cannot compete with sites of 29 members. So for that reason and some other reasons, I am going to again take out some who I know are not true members, but have their names on our roll. Some of them only joined to post some outlandish link and then leave. They have to be taken off our roll. some others were our enemies long back, and have left, as far as being 'here', but left their names on the roll. They also are 'going'. Have a good week, all you who love the Lord. I will be going to Rhonda's again this evening. So will see you Friday, if not before. Keep the word of God going strong in Bottf. Love to you all, Jo |
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| | | From: joie2 | Sent: 8/20/2008 4:21 PM |
I truly think these people are all jealous of the visits I have from my God. I think they themselves do not really believe in these things, so they resent it when they hear that God does still give vision, healing, work miracles, etc. So they must seek some way to try to tear it down and say it is of Satan. They themselves do not live close enough to God to receive visions, or to heal by prayer, so they try to say it does not exist. Liars they are. |
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| | | From: joie2 | Sent: 8/20/2008 4:24 PM |
|  The dog in this picture looks like my Banjie. See, he is so smart, can drive a car. He was precious to me. His whole face was black though. | |
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